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The #Bills made the biggest jump in this week's #NFL Power Poll after upsetting the #Falcons: http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/power-poll/

Tony Mejia continues his coverage on VegasInsider.com this pro football season. Each week throughout the 2017 campaign, users can view his weekly Division Rankings, Playoff Projections, Super Bowl Prediction and Power Poll.

 

Super Bowl LII Prediction (2/4/18)

Seattle over New England -- As October begins, I'm standing firm with this preseason pick despite the warts both teams put on full display in September. Acquiring Sheldon Richardson to bolster a defensive line that was already capable of causing mayhem in opposing backfield will pay off in the long run. New England will iron out its communication issues on defense. Although Seattle's offensive line concerns are very real, they'll now be able to play conservatively and rely on a defense, that if healthy and whole, is by far the NFL's best given the new look. Earl Thomas is back and looks 100 percent, so the expectation here is that the Seahawks will wind up with the NFC's top record, turning home-field advantage in the playoffs into a Super Bowl appearance. They'll finish the job against the Patriots this time.

Highest risers
Buffalo 17 to 3
Houston 20 to 12
L.A. Rams 21 to 13
N.Y. Jets 30 to 22
Carolina 15 to 8
Detroit 8 to 2
Denver 12 to 7
Seattle 14 to 11
New Orleans 23 to 20
Arizona 24 to 21

 

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:15 PM, The Dean said:

 

How does a PR influence betting? I'm seriously asking. I can't see how anyone with even half a clue would use PR in making a bet. And, which PT rating would they use? They aren't used in setting the spread to any degree, as far as I know.

Depends. Bets start happening on Late Sunday/Monday on every NFL game. The "early money" on say Bills v Bengals on Monday said Bengals by three, and so bookies announced that (early line). Then the PRs come out...Bills #3! Bills #15! Bengals #22! It's all to help the bookies make dough. It's a suckers game

 

Ask yourself why they make these Power Rankings in the first place?

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  On 10/3/2017 at 4:39 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

I'd probably have the Bills between 5-10. They are a drop from being undefeated. They would have 3 great wins if that were the case. Even the Jets aren't nearly as awful as we thought. Denver and Atlanta are great wins though.

I scribbled my list down earlier and had them at 10. I feel like that is fair. Could make a case for top 8. Just keep stacking these wins. 2 from the next 3 is a minimum requirement.

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:36 PM, Billzebubba said:

Depends. Bets start happening on Late Sunday/Monday on every NFL game. The "early money" on say Bills v Bengals on Monday said Bengals by three, and so bookies announced that (early line). Then the PRs come out...Bills #3! Bills #15! Bengals #22! It's all to help the bookies make dough. It's a suckers game

 

Ask yourself why they make these Power Rankings in the first place?

 

I'm still confused. If the early line comes out, and then PRs come out, what exactly happens? Which PR do the bookes use (since we see there are some big variances in their rankings)?

 

But for argument's sake, let's say some fans jump on the Bills, due to their high ranking. The line moves with the money, no? The goal is to get about the same amount of money on each team.

 

You still haven't told me how gamblers (or bookies) use the lines---just that they do (and do it to make money, of course).

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:43 PM, The Dean said:

 

But for argument's sake, let's say some fans jump on the Bills, due to their high ranking. The line moves with the money, no? The goal is to get about the same amount of money on each team.

 

Normally yes

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:29 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

power ranking is just a thing. nothing really substantial, just a thing.

 

 

a week to week positioning according to success or lack there of. keeps things interesting.

If you take all bias out of the equation then the PR could be as accurate as some stats.

(Did I just write that?)

Like it's done in playoffs seeding

Edited by ShadyBillsFan
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  On 10/3/2017 at 9:53 PM, The Wiz said:

For him that's actually a pretty high praise.

He was drooling over us all morning. Says he absolutely loves Bills +3. We are #1 in the NFL with 47 qb pressure. Obviously injures this week will impact the Cinncy game.

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:41 PM, GunnerBill said:

I scribbled my list down earlier and had them at 10. I feel like that is fair. Could make a case for top 8. Just keep stacking these wins. 2 from the next 3 is a minimum requirement.

That's about right. I'd have them closer to 10 than some of these places. If they stay healthy I think that they play a sustainable style. They are a nightmare for teams if they get ahead especially with the Haushcka addition. They don't make mistakes and sustain drives. It's hard to come from behind against the Bills.
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When was the last time the Bills were #2 or #3 in any of the big national power rankings?

 

Did media outlets even do power rankings in the early 1990s?

 

As Bills fans, we know good season starts don't mean squat. But they're still better than bad starts!

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  On 10/4/2017 at 3:19 PM, hondo in seattle said:

Did media outlets even do power rankings in the early 1990s?

 

Yes, they did. I remember the NYT's weird "computer-generated" one, where the Bills were routinely in the top 3 in '90 and '91.

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:29 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

power ranking is just a thing. nothing really substantial, just a thing.

 

 

a week to week positioning according to success or lack there of. keeps things interesting.

I must disagree. Power ranking is a real thing and its important. Here is mine:

 

1. Bills

2. Don't care

3. Everyone else

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  On 10/5/2017 at 12:03 AM, Scott7975 said:

I must disagree. Power ranking is a real thing and its important. Here is mine:

 

1. Bills

2. Don't care

3. Everyone else

I love this response.

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  On 10/5/2017 at 12:03 AM, Scott7975 said:

I must disagree. Power ranking is a real thing and its important. Here is mine:

 

1. Bills

2. Don't care

3. Everyone else

Yep.

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  On 10/3/2017 at 10:56 PM, ShadyBillsFan said:

If you take all bias out of the equation then the PR could be as accurate as some stats.

(Did I just write that?)

Like it's done in playoffs seeding

 

  On 10/5/2017 at 12:03 AM, Scott7975 said:

I must disagree. Power ranking is a real thing and its important. Here is mine:

 

1. Bills

2. Don't care

3. Everyone else

 

 

yous got me.

Posted
  On 10/4/2017 at 11:16 PM, jletha said:

 

This actually pissed me off. We beat the Falcons and don't move at all? The Raiders and Redskins ahead of us?

 

I know these mean nothing, but that's BS

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