ChanOverChin Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 McD coached the Carolina defense the past six seasons. He knows their personnel. He knows their schemes. He even knows HC R. Rivera's tendencies. Does all of that give the Bills an advantage from strategist standpoint. I, for one, say that it does. I think Carolina is easily more talented, esp. on defense, than the Bills. However, McD could very well tip the scale in Buffalo's favor this week. Your thoughts??
Shaw66 Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Problem is, Rivera knows McD's defense inside and out, and he has Cam Newton to take advantage of Bills weaknesses. i don't think there's an advantage.
LeGOATski Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Problem is, Rivera knows McD's defense inside and out, and he has Cam Newton to take advantage of Bills weaknesses. i don't think there's an advantage. The difference being that he doesn't know Bills personnel the way McD knows Panthers personnel. I agree, though. No real advantage here.
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Rivera doesn't know Dennison's Offense though like McDermott knows Carolina o.
Buffalo Boy Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) Problem is, Rivera knows McD's defense inside and out, and he has Cam Newton to take advantage of Bills weaknesses. i don't think there's an advantage. This. It's even as Shula knows McDs tendencies and Cam knows what that zone scheme looks like.With Cam clearly still not 100% and McD not fond of Press coverage, that might work in the Panthers favor. Ultimately, it's not a Question of Xs and Os but talent and execution and I think the Panthers have the edge, in general and more so at Home in their opener. Rivera doesn't know Dennison's Offense though like McDermott knows Carolina o.Shady and TT..... the End Edited September 12, 2017 by Buffalo Boy
buffalostu2 Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 OFFENSE - McCoach's knowledge of the personnel certainly can't hurt however even if he knows every play in their offensive playbook it won't help unless he knows their game plan this week. DEFENSE - Advanced knowledge of the personnel should help McCoach and Dennison game plan and isolate the weaker links in the Carolina defense.
ndirish1978 Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 We could have several advantages and still lose this game based solely on the difference in talent. If we win, I'd be shocked.
GoBills808 Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Kuechly, Davis, and Newton versus McCoy are the relevant advantages IMO. I think coaching is a wash.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 McD coached the Carolina defense the past six seasons. He knows their personnel. He knows their schemes. He even knows HC R. Rivera's tendencies. Does all of that give the Bills an advantage from strategist standpoint. I, for one, say that it does. I think Carolina is easily more talented, esp. on defense, than the Bills. However, McD could very well tip the scale in Buffalo's favor this week. Your thoughts?? It may, but that's a double edged sword. It's quite possible that Carolina also has deep intel on McD's tendencies as a defensive playcaller.
Jasovon Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 He certainly gave us an advantage in the draft... We could have several advantages and still lose this game based solely on the difference in talent. If we win, I'd be shocked. We won more games than the Panthers last year, are they really so far ahead talent wise?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 He certainly gave us an advantage in the draft... We won more games than the Panthers last year, are they really so far ahead talent wise? These are just my opinion, of course, but: QB- CAR RB- BUF WR- Push OL- BUF DL- BUF LB- CAR DB- Push
aristocrat Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 car has great d tackles, average ends and great lb's and not a very good secondary. doubt we run anything inside and just get outside the tackles.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 I think it is an advantage for us. This was the one team I thought we could get an upset win against and have 3 wins at the bye.
dpberr Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 If McDermott is smart, he trusts Frazier to draw up the game plan and keep himself out of it. IMO, it'd be dumb to trot out there the same things he did in Carolina and expect it to be effective. That'd be something Rex would do.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 car has great d tackles, average ends and great lb's and not a very good secondary. doubt we run anything inside and just get outside the tackles. Gonna be a physical affair...
Jasovon Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 These are just my opinion, of course, but: QB- CAR RB- BUF WR- Push OL- BUF DL- BUF LB- CAR DB- Push I would absolutely agree, which doesn't put us too far behind talent wise and we may in fact be ahead.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) If McDermott is smart, he trusts Frazier to draw up the game plan and keep himself out of it. IMO, it'd be dumb to trot out there the same things he did in Carolina and expect it to be effective. That'd be something Rex would do. Everyone calls the same plays, and disguises them the same ways. You'll change terminology, but in the end there isn't a right call for everything. I expect them to come out and try and run the ball, and get mccaffrey in space. They'll use WRs to open up space underneath for Olsen and McCaffrey to operate. Going to have to tackle very well to win. On offense - its going to be a battle in the trenches. We're going to run the ball, and they're going to try and stop us. Expect it to be physical, and for Tyrod to be moving outside the pocket to create space with their LBs. Their LBs will be able to hang in coverage with shady and Clay, unless Tyrod makes 50/50's them and makes them decide. There will be space underneath the corners for our receivers to operate, and we need to get balls to the boundaries on time. Edited September 12, 2017 by dneveu
Augie Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 It may, but that's a double edged sword. It's quite possible that Carolina also has deep intel on McD's tendencies as a defensive playcaller. Yep, all things considered it may balance out to a slight Bills advantage, but adding up to far less of a factor than the talent levels and the home field.
SaviorPeterman Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 I've always believed these type of scenarios are overblown. Yes McDermott and Beane know the Panthers players, coaches, etc but it doesn't mean they are going to take an inferior roster into Carolina and win because of that. Conversely Ron Rivera, Cam Newton and most of the current offensive depth chart knows McDermott's defense and how to play against it. If we do win this game it will simply be because the Bills are better and expected and the Panthers aren't as good as expected.
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