f0neguy Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Can anyone explain the E.Wood penalty following the 1st quarter interception? We were in a bar and couldn't hear anything but it appeared that the Jets player was still "live" as he had been knocked down by his own teammate. We thought it looked like a smart play and should have been Buffalo's ball again. Did we miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Can anyone explain the E.Wood penalty following the 1st quarter interception? We were in a bar and couldn't hear anything but it appeared that the Jets player was still "live" as he had been knocked down by his own teammate. We thought it looked like a smart play and should have been Buffalo's ball again. Did we miss something? They orginally made the call on Wood. But then refs got together deemed that the runner wasnt down by contact then called the penalty on D Lee for hitting Wood in retaliation to thr smart clean hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Can anyone explain the E.Wood penalty following the 1st quarter interception? We were in a bar and couldn't hear anything but it appeared that the Jets player was still "live" as he had been knocked down by his own teammate. We thought it looked like a smart play and should have been Buffalo's ball again. Did we miss something? It should not have been Buffalo ball because when Wood made contact with the defender the defender still had "possession" and his knee was down so he is considered down by contact at that point - even though in the process of the tackle he then fumbled. It was not, however, called a foul on Wood because they acknowledged that the play was still "live" at the point he made contact. The penalty was eventually called on a Jet for a late hit. Edited September 11, 2017 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Let's talk about the play where Jets CB Burris intercepted the ball in the end zone. Burris ran the ball out of the end zone, a Jets play got pushed into Burris and knocked him down. Is he truly down and the play is over since a Bills player didn't actually knock him down/tackle him?? Obviously E. Wood didn't think he was legally down because he tackled him and stripped the ball from him. My take is that Burris was not legally down because the Bills did not tackle him, and thus, Wood was justified in tackling him. In that case, the Bills recover the fumble and return the ball to their offense on the very next play. Your take?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregil42 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) If a Bill did not touch him, then he is not down by contact. However, if the whistle was blown, then he is ruled down and the play is over. So yes, Eric Wood made a heads up play in tackling him. I don't know if a whistle was blown or not. I was half distracted by my kid at the time. Edit: I thought it was a fumble at first, but on replay, Burris' knee was on the ground, so the moment Wood hit him, he was down. Edited September 11, 2017 by seregil42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 His knee was still down when Wood touched him. That's what ended the play, and he touched him before he stripped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 He was downed by contact as the knee was touching the field when Wood made contact. No controversy at all after seeing the replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 If hes on the ground, hes down immediately when a Buffalo player touches him. If Woods hit is what dislodged the ball, then he was down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 You are correct. I believe the rule states that the runner must be touched/tackled by an opposing player to be ruled down by contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I also believe Tyrod grabbed some of his sleeve before he went down too. But that's not what caused him to go down, it was his own man. Does that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) If it were last season under Rex the Bills players would have been jogging off the field without realizing Burris wasn't down. That play was one of the things I loved yesterday: game awareness. The Bills players actually realized he might have been down. Also, am I correct if there was no whistle and no contact, you're knee being down doesn't make you down? Edited September 11, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'll have to look at the play again, but I thought that Burris was in the process of getting up. The point is that the refs acted like Burris was down because he was knocked down when a Bill pushed a Jet teammate into him. By that action alone, Burris was not legally down. I agree that if Wood tackled Burris while his knee was on the ground then he was down and the Jets retain the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I also believe Tyrod grabbed some of his sleeve before he went down too. But that's not what caused him to go down, it was his own man. Does that matter? No, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It was a heads-up play by Wood. When I saw a flag thrown I was pretty sure they were calling Wood for unnecessary roughness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'll have to look at the play again, but I thought that Burris was in the process of getting up. The point is that the refs acted like Burris was down because he was knocked down when a Bill pushed a Jet teammate into him. By that action alone, Burris was not legally down. I agree that if Wood tackled Burris while his knee was on the ground then he was down and the Jets retain the ball. But the ball was loose by that point, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'll have to look at the play again, but I thought that Burris was in the process of getting up. The point is that the refs acted like Burris was down because he was knocked down when a Bill pushed a Jet teammate into him. By that action alone, Burris was not legally down. I agree that if Wood tackled Burris while his knee was on the ground then he was down and the Jets retain the ball. That's exactly what happened. Correct call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 His knee was still down when Wood touched him. That's what ended the play, and he touched him before he stripped it. While i believe this to be true. But it kinda looked like Burris was trying to stand as he was hit by Wood. Did anyone get a good look to see if his knee came off the ground before Eric Wood touched and stripped him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 But the ball was loose by that point, It was not, watch it again. Burris knee is on the ground, Eric Wood starts the tackle... as soon as Wood touches him, he is down by contact because his knee is on the ground. The ball then comes out as Wood knocks it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 While i believe this to be true. But it kinda looked like Burris was trying to stand as he was hit by Wood. Did anyone get a good look to see if his knee came off the ground before Eric Wood touched and stripped him? It didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 While i believe this to be true. But it kinda looked like Burris was trying to stand as he was hit by Wood. Did anyone get a good look to see if his knee came off the ground before Eric Wood touched and stripped him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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