Mark Vader Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 We had 11 players on the field yesterday.....that felt different to me.
Buftex Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 We had 11 players on the field yesterday.....that felt different to me.
SectionC3 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Passing game was pretty pedestrian. Not going to cut it in today's NFL to compete for a playoff spot. Most parts of yesterday feel different to me. Except for the passing game. The ball doesn't come out on time, there is absolutely no rhythm, and most of the good results come from ad hockery - scramble, broken play, etc. It is not a sustainable way to run an offense. Tyrod seems to be a hard worker and a really good guy, but I can't help but wonder if peterman is a better fit even as of today.
nedboy7 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Not one comment on how losing our deep threat has changed the offense. Interesting.
row_33 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Sunday's win seemed very un-Rex like in that (except Darius), the team was prepared to play. good point
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) I'm just wondering why some just don't enjoy the win, why does it have to be a positive or a negative after? We won so I'm happy, were on top of the division and I expect this team to be very competitive against the HC and GM's former team, I'm not expecting a win but it would probably start the talk of being able to hang with the better teams talk, for me at least. Edited September 11, 2017 by BuffaloBillsGospel
Gugny Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 after one game, no. i need to see what happens with the first quarter of the season at least. Exactly. Lots to factor into yesterday's game. Looking around the league, there was lots of rust. Who knows? Maybe TT will get better as the season progresses. We played a very, very bad team whose coach was either trying like hell to lose the game, or has no business being a HC. I think 1/4 of the season is a decent snapshot; especially with the first four opponents. Yesterday, the Bills won a game they were supposed to win and looked decent against a team they should have looked decent against. The next three opponents will tell us a lot, I believe. About Tyrod, as well as the offense and defense as whole units. The only thing I took away from yesterday's game was that they won a game they were supposed to.
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 kind of like when we started 5-1 and finished 7-9?
Southern Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) https://youtu.be/Vb-izK5D3Qo Not to make this a Tyrod thread, but i continually see people bringing up his passing shortcomings, which I agree that he has. I rarely see it mentioned that he does make plays like this which maybe 2-3 other QB's in the league can make. Edited September 11, 2017 by Southern Bills Fan
Alphadawg7 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 We have had head fakes before. Trentative and Fitz off to fast starts. JP deep balls. This time feels different to me. We looked like an organized, professional football club. 50 yards in penalties? Rex teams could have that in one drive. It seems the guys want to play for each other - the early stirrings of a real "team" approach. Time will tell, but it really feels to me like we are on the right track. I am sure there will be setbacks, but I like the direction we seem to be headed in. Team plays hard. Pretty amazing. Its one week...and against an expected weak team. I very much liked what I saw from both sides of the ball, however, given the level of opponent its hard to put much stock in it yet because we did exactly what we were expected to do. Score wasn't even as close as it suggested given Clay cost us 7 and we shanked a FG again. Next week will give us a better gauge. If we are any good, we can definitely beat Carolina who quite honestly looked underwhelming against SF. This is a winnable game to me, and one I would expect us to win if week 1 isn't a mirage. Not saying they are a push over, but I think Carolina is a mid range team, so if we are truly a team capable of making the playoffs, then we need to beat the Carolina's of the NFL.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Most parts of yesterday feel different to me. Except for the passing game. The ball doesn't come out on time, there is absolutely no rhythm, and most of the good results come from ad hockery - scramble, broken play, etc. It is not a sustainable way to run an offense. Tyrod seems to be a hard worker and a really good guy, but I can't help but wonder if peterman is a better fit even as of today.Why isn't it sustainable? They have been top 10 scoring and DVOA for the last 2 years!!! It may not be conventional but it has been effective (and sustainable). Edited September 11, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
Billsmovinup Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Im completely indifferent at the point. The koolaid crowd might think the Jets are better than everyone thinks but I dont and fact is that they were in striking difference at the end of the third. Its a long season. I think well know by the midpoint of the season. This looks like a 7-9 win season at this point.
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Head fakes, oh yeah. I admit it, I bought in during the Fitzmagic 4-5 game run, the win against the PAts was the best since the Super Bowl era and we all know how that worked out. At least I never bought a Fitzmagic T-shirt or thought calling the WRs "the goon squad" was cool or creative. Need more games before I will feel this is anything more than a sub par to mediocre team. Edited September 11, 2017 by RoyBatty is alive
Just Joshin' Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Solid, expected win. But as the coach said after, don't get overly excited He would say that if they just beat the Pats 49 to 0.
Magox Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 It always feels good to win, but lets wait a few more weeks before we make definitive statements. The only definitive conclusion I can come to, this is a much better level of coaching than we had under the Ryan clowns. I am still not 100% sure that we are a more talented team...I want to see a little more. The first 7 games of the season are pretty tough...After next year's 6-7 draft picks in the first 3 rounds and all the cap money we will have to reshape this roster in McD/Beane's vision of this team, then you will see a more talented team.
offyourocker Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Here is what can be concluded from this game: - team played disciplined and fundamentally well. A change from Rex for sure. Credit to the coach - defense looks solid especially against the run - run offense looks as good as last year - passing game was meh. I don't see where Taylor's game had taken a step forward. He is waiting for receivers to have significant separation. Struggled some over the middle. I could not help thinking Peterman would have thrown for 300+ yards. I will bet opposing team will average over 300 yards passing against the Jets for rest of season.
T-Bomb Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Tyrod still looks deficient in the passing game to me, but it's one game. If that game demonstrates all the Bills' offense has to offer, they won't win more than 5 games.
Alphadawg7 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Most parts of yesterday feel different to me. Except for the passing game. The ball doesn't come out on time, there is absolutely no rhythm, and most of the good results come from ad hockery - scramble, broken play, etc. It is not a sustainable way to run an offense. Tyrod seems to be a hard worker and a really good guy, but I can't help but wonder if peterman is a better fit even as of today. Just don't understand this assessment of Taylors game yesterday. He spread the ball around, found guys over the middle, made plays with his legs when needed. took care of the ball and threw it away when needed. Wasn't a perfect game, but it was an encouraging start to see the offense move the ball consistently and get so many people involved all over the field. Most Importantly: It still astonishes me how little people even acknowledge this is still a new playbook, new system, and new coaches and lost out some important time in camp with the concussion. Most importantly, its a completely new roster of WR's he is throwing to, and has very little time and experience with his 2 starters, especially Jordan due to injuries. I think considering all of that, it was quite an encouraging start and if Clay didn't let a pass go off his hands in the Endzone, TT would have a really good stat line instead of a solid one. Lets also not forget for the stat police that McD went conservative and safe once there was a 2 score lead give how good the D was also playing. Next week will be a better gauge...if this team is going to truly be a team that can challenge for a playoff spot, then it needs to beat teams like Carolina who IMO are a mid range team. Way too early to get excited about what we saw yesterday and I am still skeptical about what this team is, however, I will say both sides of the ball played well and have a lot to build on.
fan_in_tx Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 https://youtu.be/Vb-izK5D3Qo Not to make this a Tyrod thread, but i continually see people bringing up his passing shortcomings, which I agree that he has. I rarely see it mentioned that he does make plays like this which maybe 2-3 other QB's in the league can make. I would agree with this assessment Tyrod makes plays with his feet that other QB's just can't. My only concern with Tyrod is consistency on the deep ball, it seems he was very good at the beginning of his Bills career but since last season it seems to have no touch on the deep ball. I think his longest pass yesterday covered 12 yards in the Air and i know he badly overshot his receiver on one deep ball yesterday.
Alphadawg7 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 I would agree with this assessment Tyrod makes plays with his feet that other QB's just can't. My only concern with Tyrod is consistency on the deep ball, it seems he was very good at the beginning of his Bills career but since last season it seems to have no touch on the deep ball. I think his longest pass yesterday covered 12 yards in the Air and i know he badly overshot his receiver on one deep ball yesterday. Keep in mind, that first year he had a healthy Sammy for the final 9 games and they were in sync. People really forget just how good of a player Sammy is and how much that helps a QB trust and throw to them, especially deep. Last year, we had no deep threats, in all but 2 of Sammys game he was just a ghost of himself. This year, he has no timing with his new group of WRs yet. He has had to learn a new offense and also learn the timing of new WR's, and he has had practically no time with Jordan. I would expect that his comfort and timing with ZJ, Jordan, and Holmes grows as well as his confidence and comfort in the new system, so will the downfield passing game.
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