Oh Marcell

[QB Bills]

He didn't play bad. Did he play up to his contract? No, but who could? Maybe the Bills should sign Aaron Donald to that contract instead. That's a guy that works his butt off and is a superior athlete deserving of the big bucks

Yup. And while they're at it, sign Brady, Rodgers, Watt and Mack Edited September 11, 2017 by QB Bills

[Billsmovinup]

No TD passes, no TD receptions. What are we paying this guy for?

 

OP, one other thing...STFU and watch the game

What a dbag response!

[Buffaloflash]

They had 38 yards rushing. We won.

Last year, with Dareus (game 2), they had 127 yards and he had 4 tackles. We were whupped, 30-10.

 

This year, let's try something different and only keep track of one stat.

 

The score.

Hahaha,

Yeah,that does make sense!

[benderbender]

 

I repeat.

Pete?

[QB Bills]

What a dbag response!

True. My apologies OP.

 

Having said that, I disagree with your assessment of his play. I think he was solid. Not spectacular though.

[thebug]

As did I. Third row behind the bench. He was excellent at covering his gaps. Took up two blockers almost every snap. Not saying he couldn't play better, but he's so talented that he's really great even when he's on cruise control.

 

You'll never win the name-calling game against me you mouth-breather, so don't bother. But do yourself a favour and rewatch the game and speak with someone who knows football before you post.

Wow! Aren't you special, sitting 3 rows behind the bench and all. Sounds like the worst spot to have any perspective on how a player on the D line did. Unless you are a know it all with x-ray vision. Congrats on that!

[ajmac]

None of us know what the game plan for the dline was today. It looks like there was some attempt to rush four only and make sure they were gap conscientious while pushing the pocket. It was almost always a four on five and even four on six scenario. They played the bend but don't break cover three and cover four on the back end and were allowing McCown to try and beat them.

 

I admit, this is boring to watch, but if you have been a fan for any time, you will remember the Bills of old used to play a similar bend but don't break defense themselves. I am not defending the fact that the pash rush could have been better at times on third downs, but there seemed to be a plan in place. We will see as we move forward if this was just a premonition or not.

Edited September 11, 2017 by ajmac

[dezertbill]

Marcel is done after this year.

 

He'll be traded. Simlar to Sheldon Richardson.

[billsfan_34]

Our offense last year put up a lot of yards and points.

 

Go Mills! Sign him to a long-term deal. Your logic is clearly undeniable.

Ouch!

True. My apologies OP.

 

Having said that, I disagree with your assessment of his play. I think he was solid. Not spectacular though.

Apology accepted- can we agree that solid isnt enough with his talent set and HUGE contract?

 

Go to LA if you want Sammy.

That was STOOOOOOPID

[papazoid]

i'm no fan of dareus.....but

 

was at the game not paying attention to him, so last night rewatched dareus isolated via game pass.

 

he was NOT used as a "penetrating DT" in the entire first half......that's not his fault....that's coaching.

 

and on most 3rd downs he was taken off field, so he wasn't able to make an "impact" sack or tackle for loss.

 

he held his point of attack vs run, mostly lined up over center. he was chipped by a second blocker on a lot of plays.

 

he did NOT have a "bad" game.

[Blokestradamus]

Marcell played a good game. I'm sure there are some plays he could have done more, but it appeared to me that his role today was to eat space and shut down the run. The defense did a great job of that today.

 

I know it's just the Jets which is why I wouldn't derive many conclusions either way. But to say Dareus was poor today is very incorrect.

 

I think this is close to being correct. Easiest way to win the game against Josh McCown is to make him pass. Make them one-dimensional and attack him at that point.

 

Marcell didn't have a great game but he did what seemed to be asked of him. He's a 330 pound behemoth, I don't want to see him chasing plays down to the sideline.

 

The likelihood of him meeting the value of his contract is minimal, especially if they rotate at DT as much as they did yesterday. Dareus played 59% of snaps.

[PurpLegacy]

Sorry man I watched the whole game and there was no pressure on McCown. C'mon man. Only pressure I seen was K. Williams on 3 or 4 plays. I don't even think we registered a sack. We were good stopping the run but no QB pressure will kill against any above average QB.

 

No pressure on McCown? Our two interceptions were direct results of dline pressure forcing McCown to throw sloppy balls down the field.

[Blokestradamus]

No pressure on McCown? Our two interceptions were direct results of dline pressure forcing McCown to throw sloppy balls down the field.

 

When it got home, it was effective.

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

They had 38 yards rushing. We won.

Last year, with Dareus (game 2), they had 127 yards and he had 4 tackles. We were whupped, 30-10.

 

This year, let's try something different and only keep track of one stat.

 

The score.

 

This

[billsfan60]

The DL was solid and Hughes didn't do anything stupid today. Marcell was a space eater today. When the defense gets gouged and he is nonexistent then we can revisit the situation.

If you can't see this is a vast improvement from last year there's no hope.

I tend to think how a player looks from week to week has a lot to do with the scheme being used. The scheme they used today was designed to be good enough to beat the Jets and probably also not to show much about exotic packages. So Dareus probably was doing about what he was told to do.

 

That said there was no reason for the D line not to exert itself. None of the starting four was very visible. Again, it could by design, that they were supposed to keep the Jets' O linemen from getting onto our LBs, so they just did that.

 

There are games within the games, and there is no way we civilians are going to know whether a guy was failing to accomplish his assignments.

More logic!

[Blokestradamus]

While the topic of DL rotation is on the agenda, snap count percentages for Carolina DT's last season:

 

Short - 72.9%

Lotuleiei - 65.7%

Butler - 21%

Love - 21%

Soliai - 14.2%

 

Rotation is going to happen.

[T-Bomb]

The seasons over already?

 

It will be in about 4-5 weeks...

[mjt328]

With this new regime "cutting the fat", Marcel Dareus will have the bullseye on him all season.

Just like Stephon Gilmore had in 2016 during his contract year.

 

Let's be honest. At the $100 million we are paying Dareus (not to mention all the off-field headaches), fans are expecting more than a guy that occupies blockers and helps stuff the run. They are expecting dominance. They are expecting a guy that plays like a Top 5 DT in this league. They are expecting him to look like a Pro-Bowler. And I think those expectations are reasonable.

 

We saw that Dareus 3-4 years ago, before he got the big contract and Rex Ryan came to town. Since that point, he's been a solid player. But nothing special. (Just like Gilmore). At this point in his career, he's still the second best defensive tackle on the Bills - even with 34 year old Kyle Williams contemplating retirement.

[Scott7975]

He didn't look dominant but he didn't look bad, he definitely was productive but needs to take it up a notch against better offenses. Rush defense was very stout up the middle and he was a big part of that. There seemed to be pressure coming from the middle at times and there wasn't a clean pocket consistently.

 

I hope he plays better but he wasn't bad at all out there in fact he was pretty good. Not much to complain about from the defense.

 

If he made 10 million per game he would be getting paid 160 million per-season.

 

Don't know how that came out 10. Meant 1mil.

[bigK14094]

Perhaps his hip is worse than reported....he didn't get many calls during the game for sure.