Rocky Landing Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 This is all well, and good. But, I'm not sure there is a more pedestrian WR corp in the league. They haven't exactly set TT up for success in that regard-- at least looking at it from the outside. I predict a lot of dropped balls this season.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 we'll know in less than 48 hrs? are you ready for some football!!! ....sleepless nights.....using Bourbon as a sedative.....
OldTimer1960 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Maybe the culture they are building is wrong? I'm sure just about EVERY team in the NFL would love to have Watkins. If that were true, then the Bils would have gotten a lot more for Watkins. The Bills' front office is not as clueless as you want to believe. They understand that when healthy he is a tremendous talent, but they also recognized that the injury risk is significant and that the Bills do not have a QB that can effectively take advantage of his skills. If he turns into a superhero in LA, it does not mean that he would have reached those levels in Buffalo with Tyrod. Self-awareness is important.
aristocrat Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Is there a stat line that would make people keep him for next year? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 ....sleepless nights.....using Bourbon as a sedative.....
OldTimer1960 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I am a skeptic on Taylor, but I am rooting for him and hope I am pleasantly surprised. I certainly expect Taylor will look significantly better than the pre-season. Still feel bad he doesn't have Sammy to throw to. This is exactly where I am. Talor isn't horrible, but he hasn't shown that he can really elevate a team. Objectively, if he were a FA, there would be very few teams truly interested in signing him to be a long-term starter.
Passepartout Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 He sounds like a nice guy. But he is on a short leash this year.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Is there a stat line that would make people keep him for next year? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk even if he had a stellar year, beat the patsies twice, won the division only to lose the afc championship game, I don't think he is in their long term plans?
Fixxxer Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) This is all well, and good. But, I'm not sure there is a more pedestrian WR corp in the league. They haven't exactly set TT up for success in that regard-- at least looking at it from the outside. I predict a lot of dropped balls this season. We have yet to see what Matthews brings to the team. FWIW, Eagles fans loved the guy but the consensus among them is that he's a solid receiver, does everything well but he's not great. I liked what I saw from him on some youtube videos, we shall see on Sunday how things work out. Edited September 8, 2017 by Fixxxer
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I said this before here but I expect the Bills offense to look a lot like the 2005 Broncos when Jake Plummer was pretty good. They were efficient. A lot of rollouts and naked bootlegs. Tough to gameplan against. Between Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell they had about 2000 yards.
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I said this before here but I expect the Bills offense to look a lot like the 2005 Broncos when Jake Plummer was pretty good. They were efficient. A lot of rollouts and naked bootlegs. Tough to gameplan against. Between Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell they had about 2000 yards. I'd take that.
grb Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) I know it's a tough decision to accept but I do trust McBeane on this. Sammy did not fit the culture they're trying to build. He complained publicly to the media about his targets and talked about raising the bar for receiver contracts. That's not the type of player McBeane wants here and he has injury issues that are possibly going to creep up again. Agreed, Watkins had a poor record with injuries. No one was sure he'd ever deliver a full season's worth of games. Also, people believed the Bills wouldn't be able to sign him next year anyway. Dumping him now got a decent return. If they waited they may have gotten much less. So there were legit reasons to trade him whether you supported the deal or not. But could we please lay off the idea anyone the Bills don't want is "culturally" deficient? Yes, Watkins has a trace of wide receiver diva in him - something only glimpsed in one or two interviews a year. But just the slightest trace - and at a level which barely compares with his more egocentric peers. But aside from that, who ever heard a complaint about him as a professional or teammate? He started and ended last season playing on a broken foot. Wasn't that evidence of "culture"? This meme has now reached the point where Jonathan Williams is cut and people immediately decide it was because of his moral deficiency. Ron Darby was traded and suddenly Peter King at SI writes it was because Darby "hadn't bought into the new administration." There was no explanation of this statement; there were no examples given to illustrate it; there was no hint of this supposed problem before the trade; there wasn't a single bit of reporting on this "issue" until Darby was safely out of the state. Darby and Watkins were dumped for draft picks. Beane and McDermott are betting it all on the '18 draft. But they're big boys. They don't need us inventing reasons for their decisions. Edited September 8, 2017 by grb
BuffAlone Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Based on his injury history and upcoming mega contract, I find this hard to believe.^^^ Exactly . He may be worth signing for many clubs with production VS. availability, but I would dare say not EVERY
OldNMBillsFan Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I've been crossing my fingers all preseason, hoping this would be the case. We should know for sure on Sunday. The offense we saw during August does not fit Tyrod Taylor's strengths. If this article rings true, the Bills were forcing Taylor to work on his areas of weakness during the preseason. They were forcing him to work under center, because he struggles there. They were forcing him to stay in the pocket, because they didn't want him scrambling. I would like to think that they were just practicing what they suck at too. That would be the smart thing to do. Looking forward to Sunday to see what this team has. I honestly think we could be pleasantly surprised, but then it was just the Jets. So if they do win convincingly, we will have to wait until the Panthers game to get a feel for the team.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Oh boy Unleash the beast. This is kind of funny. Shady gets an incentive clause now this gem. Hubris. we'll know in less than 48 hrs? are you ready for some football!!! Hey dude. Your clock is 3 hours fast.
KellyToughII Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) That is laughable at best Edited September 8, 2017 by KellyToughII
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Not relevant to TT. While true people will use the defense as the reason TT doesn't have a better W/L record. We will have out answers in about 44 hour.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Hey dude. Your clock is 3 hours fast. been kicking it in the ass all off season. seemed to have gained some time.
Deranged Rhino Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 been kicking it in the ass all off season. seemed to have gained some time.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) While true people will use the defense as the reason TT doesn't have a better W/L record. We will have out answers in about 44 hour. They were 28 & 24 DVOA the last 2 years so they certainly weren't helping. I still blame Rex for more than anything over the last two years. He is the unquestioned reason for what went wrong the last 2 years. Edited September 8, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
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