BeginnersMind Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Expressing any confidence in the demise of the Patriots is like celebrating a warm Buffalo day in March. Fleeting.
ALF Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 KC beating NE* is very impressive even if we have their 1st rd pick . NE* D looks shaky, so far . Patrica will be chewed out , then Gilmore.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 @Eric_Edholm The #Patriots have some issues defensively — and it's not an overreaction to one game: http://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2017/09/08/f60466be8a714bd0b5ef79e68cc2844e/index.xml
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Yes, their "fans" will take solace in that, but by the end of this season I hope they'll look like this: I like that., There's a subreddit for things like this. I can't remember which one. Edit: found it https://www.reddit.com/r/breathinginformation/ 12 man league, $50 per person. I won last year, so I'll be in the green for a while. Not sure how this didn't make it into the thread yet... Jerel WorthyVerified account @I_AM_Worthy99 10h10 hours agoMore At least we got to see my dawg Gilmore on tv tho That's a fantastic tweet Edited September 8, 2017 by quinnearlysghost88
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I am betting Rob Ninkovich "un-retires", that will dramatically improve their defense. This Cassius Marsh guy aint gonna work out.
cage Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Having an internal debate, do I drop them as my fantasy D/ST? Or do I keep them hoping that I am a curse? Uh, based on what we saw last night...I'd drop them fast
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 none of those years did they look bad. Last night they looked really bad. There is a difference. Well when you have posters constantly griping about how great he was (and he never was), how he will be this perennial pro bowler in New England and it keeps getting shoved down our throats, you love it when he's exposed again for who he really is an average corner. They didn't look bad in 2003 when they lost to us 31-0? Or to the Dolphins in the opener in 2014 33-20? How about when the Pats were finished after getting destroyed by the Chiefs a few years back, then right back in the playoffs? Yeah they looked bad but lets give props to the Chiefs team, smothering the WR, when you have a S like Eric Berry covering Gronk it definitely helps, I fully expect Hyde to shadow him when we play. Maybe the Pats are finally done but we've seen this happen countless times and never seems to end, one day it will but the more logical explanation would be they got out coached this time around and expect the Saints to get a 50 burger on them, just my opinions which I hope I'm completely wrong since it would be awesome to see them crumble.
cage Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 @Eric_Edholm The #Patriots have some issues defensively — and it's not an overreaction to one game: http://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2017/09/08/f60466be8a714bd0b5ef79e68cc2844e/index.xml I actually hadn't paid much attention to details surrounding the Pats given all the "undefeated" talk going around in the off-season. I assumed they would be very good. However after seeing so many no-names on that defense last night, I'm perplexed where it came from. I don't think they're that good...
KGun12TD Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Lots of Chicken Littles here...they're gonna rebound and win another Super Bowl!
Watkins101 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Having an internal debate, do I drop them as my fantasy D/ST? Or do I keep them hoping that I am a curse? Keep them, like I am keeping Tom Brady. They wont be able to play well anymore now that we are cursing them
cage Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Lots of Chicken Littles here...they're gonna rebound and win another Super Bowl! Not trying to overreact to one game, but honestly, who are the stars of that defense?
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Not trying to overreact to one game, but honestly, who are the stars of that defense? Supposedly Stephon Gilmore and Malcolm Butler.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 13-3, relatively easy. Last night was a fluke. Collinsworth made an interesting statement last night emphasizing they added a lot of "talent" but it's not the same "team" as the one that won last season. By itself that statement is obvious and not at all insightful. In the way he emphasized the word team, I infered that adding a bunch of talent is less important in his view than building a symbiotic team of complimenting pieces.
Malazan Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 If you look at how Andy Reid has fared against the Patriots, he's actually kept most games pretty close. His record of 2-6 isn't great but he's 2-1 now as the Chiefs coach against the Pats. The only real blow out was the first matchup in 2003 when the Patriots beat the Eagles 31-10. Here's the rest of the match-ups: February 6, 2005: Patriots 24, Eagles 21 - Super Bowl, Eagles came within 3 with 1:48 remaining and McNabb threw a int. November 25, 2007: Patriots 31, Eagles 28 - AJ Feely was the starting QB and threw 2 ints on the final two possessions. November 27, 2011: Patriots 38, Eagles 20 - Again starting backup QB Vince Young September 29, 2014: Chiefs 41, Patriots 14 - Monday Night game January 16, 2015: Patriots 27, Eagles 20 - Playoff game Why was Reid coach of KC in September of 2014, but coach of the Eagles in 2015? Something seems off here.
Big Turk Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) in 2014 they beat the Pats* 41-14 and people questioned whether the Pats* were done. KC finished that year 9-7 and out of the playoffs The bad-KC looks good. KC typically looks good in the regular season under Reid/Smith...if I am not mistaken Alex Smith is 2nd or 3rd in the NFL in wins since 2011 during the regular season. They almost are assuredly going to make the playoffs but almost just as assuredly going to lose in the first or second round too, so the pick will be low-mid 20s probably. Edited September 8, 2017 by matter2003
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Why was Reid coach of KC in September of 2014, but coach of the Eagles in 2015? Something seems off here. And how did the Pats and the Eagles meet in the playoffs when they are in separate conferences?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Collinsworth made an interesting statement last night emphasizing they added a lot of "talent" but it's not the same "team" as the one that won last season. By itself that statement is obvious and not at all insightful. In the way he emphasized the word team, I infered that adding a bunch of talent is less important in his view than building a symbiotic team of complimenting pieces. So, in other words (McD's to be precise) "We're building a team, we're not accumulating talent."?
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2017 Author Posted September 8, 2017 Supposedly Stephon Gilmore and Malcolm Butler. Butler is a SB star. Not sure Gilmore is too bright of one just yet. Our local radio show has two recent former NFL players hosting and they kept calling him "Steven" today
bobobonators Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Collinsworth made an interesting statement last night emphasizing they added a lot of "talent" but it's not the same "team" as the one that won last season. By itself that statement is obvious and not at all insightful. In the way he emphasized the word team, I infered that adding a bunch of talent is less important in his view than building a symbiotic team of complimenting pieces. Yup, i thought that was a good point by CC. What happened last year, 3yrs ago, or 10yrs ago doesnt matter in the NFL. Its a new team. Pats had a lot of turnover due to injuries/roster decisions. Just bc players responded to adversity 3 years ago doesnt mean the new group of players will.
Big Turk Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Yup, i thought that was a good point by CC. What happened last year, 3yrs ago, or 10yrs ago doesnt matter in the NFL. Its a new team. Pats had a lot of turnover due to injuries/roster decisions. Just bc players responded to adversity 3 years ago doesnt mean the new group of players will. It's all irrelevant. Bellichick will figure out how to win with whoever he has, how to attack teams weaknesses while hiding his own, and by midseason they will be running roughshod over teams on their way to the playoffs---like they have done for 15 years on repeat, unfortunately for us and the rest of the AFCE Edited September 8, 2017 by matter2003
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