SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 So much hate for guys cut. MG had 2 TDS early didn't he? Gilmore is good not great. If these guys left via holdout or somesuch I'd have a different view point. That said. Pats fans hahahahA
Charles Romes Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Not only is he overrated but the best part is he's an 8.5M cap hit and a 22.5M dead cap hit 40M guaranteed for that slacker. once again proves that belichick is a below average talent evaluator. without brady he's.....well.....unable to score a single point against us in foxboro last year GEEEEENNNNNNIIIIUUUUUUSSSSSS 40M guaranteed for a player who may be average can bring down a whole franchise.
Doc Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 So McCourty was supposed to cover Kelce and Hill, and Gilmore was supposed to cover a completely empty zone? Seems far-fetched. The best you can say is that there was a miscommunication. But that happened so often in Buffalo that it makes you wonder where the problem lies. However the (lack of) effort you can't ignore. Some things never (will) change.
GG Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 One game dude - one game. Let's slow our roll until October. Of course it's only one game. But last night, Gilmore didn't play "The Patriot* Way" Maybe in a month, BB will be able to change a player's ingrained habits.
section122 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 @Cianaf NE tried to disguise their four-man rush with CB coming off opposite side of field. Safeties rotated, Gilmore blew his coverage. Awful D. @BrianJesterFF Replying to @Cianaf Apparently McCourty said after the game that it was his fault. Some sort of Cover 2 So McCourty was supposed to cover Kelce and Hill, and Gilmore was supposed to cover a completely empty zone? Seems far-fetched. The best you can say is that there was a miscommunication. But that happened so often in Buffalo that it makes you wonder where the problem lies. However the (lack of) effort you can't ignore. Some things never (will) change. This was a mess all around on the Pats D. Look at the top of the screen. That wr is also wide open. Both Safeties got sucked to the middle of the field. They ran almost mirror routes on the outside and both were wide open.
boyst Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Of course it's only one game. But last night, Gilmore didn't play "The Patriot* Way" Maybe in a month, BB will be able to change a player's ingrained habits. see, I disagree. It's near impossible to watch cbs on the broadcast, but Gilmore looked to be pretty good even though Smith didn't look his way much.
Doc Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 This was a mess all around on the Pats D. Look at the top of the screen. That wr is also wide open. Both Safeties got sucked to the middle of the field. They ran almost mirror routes on the outside and both were wide open. Yep, saw that.
oldmanfan Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Would it be fair to say that Gilmore is good in man to man but has more trouble with zone coverage schemes?
thebandit27 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I didn't even mentioned your name and you responded, so you're the one who got your panties in a wad whenever someone says anything negative about Gilmore. Also, cut the internet tough guy act, it's embarrassing! It's funny, you say I'm always wrong about Gilmore, but yet I have the same opinions as majority of fans do about him. Guess we're all wrong about him and you're right?! You need to tell the entire Bills Mafia why they're all wrong! http://us.blastingnews.com/sports/2017/09/bills-mafia-destroys-stephon-gilmore-on-twitter-after-blown-coverage-001992243.html Nicholas Mendola ✔@NicholasMendola Oh I get to do the thing... THE WORLD: Alex Smith can't go deep STEPHON GILMORE: Hold my beer#OnTVnowDude Quite simply, yes, when you say something that's incorrect, and is verified as incorrect by the guy that made the mistake on the field, then you are wrong (along with anyone that agrees with you). There no tough guy act. There's only a simple request to be a man and call out people by name. Don't sling insults couched with ambiguity and then run and hide behind a lie ("I don't read your posts but I know your opinion about this subject"). Perhaps that's asking too much; I've always been a man of high expectations.
K-9 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Credit to Reid for the design on that play. NE had shown that Cover-2 look several times previously and Reid exploited the safeties by running that deep post which confused them and left the outside vulnerable. Gilmore could have shown more awareness, but he thought he had safety help over the top as the defense was designed on that play. Don't understand the classless ex-Bills player bashing in this thread. It's better to tip your hat to the other guy. In this case Reid for his play design and his players for perfect execution.
Magox Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Quite simply, yes, when you say something that's incorrect, and is verified as incorrect by the guy that made the mistake on the field, then you are wrong (along with anyone that agrees with you). There no tough guy act. There's only a simple request to be a man and call out people by name. Don't sling insults couched with ambiguity and then run and hide behind a lie ("I don't read your posts but I know your opinion about this subject"). Perhaps that's asking too much; I've always been a man of high expectations. I don't know Bandit. If you look at that video there is no one remotely near Gilmore and he was looking in the whole time. He should have stayed with the WR, I don't care what the safety said. This to me is a matter of the safety taking ownership of him making the wrong read but Gilmore also lacked awareness on this play even if that wasn't his responsibility per se. Gilmore blew it man.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 What a sad, salty, bitter thread this is. 1) do you think the Pats, Packers, & Steelers fans devout threads to rooting for their ex players' failures? I guess when you're a fan of losers, you need to cheer on failures of others. Pretty pathetic and kinda of embarrassing. 2). Some of you don't know basic football. 3). Stop being the bitter exes. We got left for a richer, better looking person. Stop stalking your ex's Facebook and making catty comments on how much weight they gain. worry about your own situation. Credit to Reid for the design on that play. NE had shown that Cover-2 look several times previously and Reid exploited the safeties by running that deep post which confused them and left the outside vulnerable. Gilmore could have shown more awareness, but he thought he had safety help over the top as the defense was designed on that play. Don't understand the classless ex-Bills player bashing in this thread. It's better to tip your hat to the other guy. In this case Reid for his play design and his players for perfect execution. It's so sad and reflects badly on this fan base. Good news, Zay Jones. We love you know but if you leave, we will root for you to fail!!! This game came down to Belichick and the Pats daring Smith to beat them deep. He did and give props to KC. But I'm sure NE is done and will suck this year.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 But does Gilmore fall into the good bucket for BB* or into the clunker? He definitely deserves the benefit of the doubt, but when you look at him dumping Jones, Collins, Ryan - for Ealy, Gilmore, etc it's a very bad trade off on paper and yesterday's game proved it. Once Hightower went down, that defense collapsed. Don't tell me Satan isn't having second thoughts about Gilmore - not from the long balls, but from his piss poor effort to stop Hunt's 78 Yd TD. Not his guy.
Magox Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 What a sad, salty, bitter thread this is. 1) do you think the Pats, Packers, & Steelers fans devout threads to rooting for their ex players' failures? I guess when you're a fan of losers, you need to cheer on failures of others. Pretty pathetic and kinda of embarrassing. 2). Some of you don't know basic football. 3). Stop being the bitter exes. We got left for a richer, better looking person. Stop stalking your ex's Facebook and making catty comments on how much weight they gain. worry about your own situation. Great advice and I encourage everyone to listen to it. Also, I guess that goes for all the people who will be stalking Watkins/Rams and see how their ex is doing and hopefully all the catty comments will stop then, right?
Jerry Jabber Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Quite simply, yes, when you say something that's incorrect, and is verified as incorrect by the guy that made the mistake on the field, then you are wrong (along with anyone that agrees with you). There no tough guy act. There's only a simple request to be a man and call out people by name. Don't sling insults couched with ambiguity and then run and hide behind a lie ("I don't read your posts but I know your opinion about this subject"). Perhaps that's asking too much; I've always been a man of high expectations. What makes you think I was talking about you in the first place? I said "there's a certain poster" and you immediately responded. Guilty conscious? I've called you out before and would have no problems doing it again. Like I said, I don't live on here and read every single post. I like football, it's entertaining, but there's more to life than football and the internet. You on the other hand have a superiority complex when it comes to people who disagree with your opinions.
BuffaloMatt Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I don't care whose guy it was. Pats got Mudged!
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Not his guy. I have absolutely zero idea what Gerry is talking about here. This video establishes with 100 percent clarity that Gilmore wasn't dogging int on this play at all.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Great advice and I encourage everyone to listen to it. Also, I guess that goes for all the people who will be stalking Watkins/Rams and see how their ex is doing and hopefully all the catty comments will stop then, right? Overall, I agree. A difference is the Bills traded Sammy and Gilmore was a FA.
TC in St. Louis Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I was listening to the radio team when Gillislee scored his second touchdown. They kept talking about the Bills.....Gilmore who forced a fumble, Hogan, who looks fantastic, and now Gilislee....what did the Bills NOT see with those guys. I'll bet Bills fans are crying in their beer right now. Well, the losses of Hogan and Gillislee can be attributed to mistaken strategy by our GM at the time. However, the credit for FINDING both of them goes to the same guy. Regarding not signing Gilmore...we've all seen him play a few years. Capable of big plays, and also big mistakes. I'm not sure how much better a team we'd be with Hogan and Gillislee. We haven't made the playoffs with them, let's see how we do without 'em.
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