Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Ok sure that's why McCourty admitted it. I'm sure he's just covering for Gilmore. Hate to ask but, linky?
Captain Hindsight Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I have to admit, I did enjoy seeing him get torched like that. When Smith let the ball go my first thought was "Gilmore must have gotten beat"
thebandit27 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Hate to ask but, linky? He posted it a few pages back--twitter link to an interview where McCourty said it was Cover 2 and his responsibility
White Linen Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Yup. 2 deep safety, against 3 vertical routes. Tough for the safety's but those guys are most certainly theirs to cover. McCourty gets sucked into the middle vert route, should be playing wider. Probably so and that route is designed to cross the defense up. It worked. I think at minimum it was a coordinator dominating another coordinator and the players couldn't adjust.
Webster Guy Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Not only is he overrated but the best part is he's an 8.5M cap hit and a 22.5M dead cap hit 40M guaranteed for that slacker. once again proves that belichick is a below average talent evaluator. without brady he's.....well.....unable to score a single point against us in foxboro last year GEEEEENNNNNNIIIIUUUUUUSSSSSS
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Whether he got beat or not... he didnt hustle after hill or hunt on either of the long tds. Looks like hes jogging along.
PABillsfan23 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) He plays like that a few more times Billy B will flat out cut him Edited September 8, 2017 by PABillsfan23
Captain Hindsight Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Thr safety. Because if you understand football. Gilmore was in a cover 2 zone ie flat But shouldnt the corner keep bailing if no one is in front of him?
Magox Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I don't know if it was Gilmore's fault but this seems to be a pattern for one reason or another. A play on his side on a man that he was covering gets a long touchdown reception. Then there is a he said she said deal on who gets the blame. Bottom line, TD occurs on a somewhat consistent basis against the guy he was covering at some point during the play. The way I see it that it occurs too often for a supposedly elite corner to happen against.
Jerry Jabber Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I decided last night that Gilmore is lights out in coverage between 7-12 yards past the LOS. Anything shorter than that (like WR screens) or longer than that (deep passes) seem to confound him. It's quite bizarre. He's an odd player. That is spot on.
Heitz Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Gilmore's fault or not, if he were still on the Bills and that happened in week 1, this board would be in full meltdown mode! The best part of last nights game, for me, was thinking of all the Pats fans streaming out of the stadium on a Thursday night thinking "what just happened!?"
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) But shouldnt the corner keep bailing if no one is in front of him? Yes... the OLB on his side would follow any player into that zone on a cross. Smith is pretty fast though, so you might be worrying about a QB scramble too. He didn't even turn around to look at Hill which screams miscommunication as McCourty was at the hash mark - but that to me is always his issue. He only takes care of himself, and doesn't communicate well. Edited September 8, 2017 by dneveu
Jerry Jabber Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Gilmore's fault or not, if he were still on the Bills and that happened in week 1, this board would be in full meltdown mode! The best part of last nights game, for me, was thinking of all the Pats fans streaming out of the stadium on a Thursday night thinking "what just happened!?" We'd have a certain poster on TBD defend the guy [Gilmore] to death and would blame it on everyone else.
thebandit27 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 We'd have a certain poster on TBD defend the guy [Gilmore] to death and would blame it on everyone else. We'd also have certain posters that can't read a coverage making false statements and getting upset when others point out reality. Spoiler: I'm talking about you. If you're going to sling barbs, be a man and name names. I call the guy out when he plays poorly, and if you bothered to read (and you don't), you'd know that. Set aside your agenda and view the game objectively. And PS, it was Devon McCourty that said it was his responsibility, not me, but carry on Gilmore's fault or not, if he were still on the Bills and that happened in week 1, this board would be in full meltdown mode! The best part of last nights game, for me, was thinking of all the Pats fans streaming out of the stadium on a Thursday night thinking "what just happened!?" Agreed and agreed. I loved seeing the listlessness from the team and fans in the 4th quarter
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I watched him as closely as i could last night, and except for the one big play, he looked pretty darn good. The McCourty comment seems to make sense too given that the Chiefs don't throw deep much and cover 2 necessitates a handoff to the safety. Hard to say for sure on that play, though. Yes... the OLB on his side would follow any player into that zone on a cross. Smith is pretty fast though, so you might be worrying about a QB scramble too. He didn't even turn around to look at Hill which screams miscommunication as McCourty was at the hash mark - but that to me is always his issue. He only takes care of himself, and doesn't communicate well. How do oyu know he doesn't communicate well? That's a serious question. Do you have actual evidence?
Billsfansinceday1 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 The fact is that Gilmore fluctuated from very good to very awful. I, for one, will not miss him.
Jerry Jabber Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 http://us.blastingnews.com/sports/2017/09/bills-mafia-destroys-stephon-gilmore-on-twitter-after-blown-coverage-001992243.html Nicholas Mendola ✔@NicholasMendola Oh I get to do the thing...THE WORLD: Alex Smith can't go deepSTEPHON GILMORE: Hold my beer#OnTVnowDude
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 The fact is that Gilmore fluctuated from very good to very awful. I, for one, will not miss him. Again, one play. i saw no others.
HappyDays Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Watch the play again without the hate. Cover two Zone. McCourty job. Tyreek Hill was being covered by one guy? Come on, Gilmore obviously needed to stay with him too. He made the wrong move and Hill burned right past him. It's entirely possible BOTH players were responsible.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I watched him as closely as i could last night, and except for the one big play, he looked pretty darn good. The McCourty comment seems to make sense too given that the Chiefs don't throw deep much and cover 2 necessitates a handoff to the safety. Hard to say for sure on that play, though. How do oyu know he doesn't communicate well? That's a serious question. Do you have actual evidence? I said "that to me" indicating it was an opinion. But thanks for jumping on me like I'm presenting it as fact.
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