Big Turk Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 As it always seems to be for Bills' fans, there is always something negative to draw - KC looked very good, good enough that their 1st round pick is unlikely to be very helpful in trading up for a QB in 2018. Looks like unless the Bills are bad enough to earn a top 3 pick on their own, the QB problem will persist beyond next year. It's week one. Overreactions abound...Bills were going to the Super bowl after stomping the Pats 31-0...we all know how that turned out. Chiefs will be what they usually are...a 9 to 11 win team that gets bounced in the first or second round of the playoffs and New England will be what it usually is, a team that goes to the super bowl...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Well, I don't think they had a gameplan for Kareem Hunt. Dude looked like Marshall Faulk out there. Tyreek was amazing. He's certainly took the next step from gadget player. Edited September 8, 2017 by TheElectricCompany
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 No way to just assume they are vulnerable but they were bad. No Welker really hurts them. Brady was off. The line didn't run block. Hogan did nothing. Defense was very vulnerable. They were out coached of all things. They really had no answers on offense or defense. It's just one game. I'm just assuming it's an aberration. The playcalling too - 2 4th and a half yard plays and they run it up the gut with the halfback, which is the easiest play to stop in that situation?? They deserved to lose with those calls. BB wanted to win now, so he gives up draft picks to stock his current roster to get a shot at another ring. I would LOVE it if they limp to 8-8 or worse AND they mortgaged the future. Karma MF'er. There is no karmic payback if you've already won five super bowls.
sir andrew Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I'll admit that I was floored every time Marsha got beat up and also with the final score. I think, though, that more should be said about the Chiefs coaching than how "bad" the pats looked. I am always amazed how seemingly outgunned or out-manned the Chiefs are and somehow they hang with you and capitalize on any mistake you make. The Pats* should have been up by two touchdowns in the first 5 minutes of the game. Andy Reid is a quality coach.
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Bills could play the exact same game and very easily lose 37-28 with a couple different bounces of the ball (*cough* refs *cough*). At least we don't have to live that until December! Enjoy the moment
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 It's a match up league. Playmakers are key. Who do we have as a playmaker in the passing game besides maybe McCoy? That teams have to game plan for? No one
row_33 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 undefeated is not a goal of NFL teams, it's HFA for the playoffs, nobody cares about undefeated seasons sometimes it can't be helped and you get a team that is so excellent and healthy that it seems they can't even dog away a few losses 2nd in the AFC East will have 6 or 7 wins, so the Pats can coast to the division with a 10-6 record and a ton of Belichick thinking to get them there.
Maddog69 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 This loss does remove the annoying, season long string of "Pats are going to go undefeated" boasts by the talking heads on ESPN and NFLN. That makes me happy.
row_33 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Another loss to the Chiefs with the Universe crowing about how the Pats are now finished, maybe Brady is on the trading blocks again???
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Every one is high on last nights game. Hubris. Keep it grounded
HappyDays Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Meh.. who cares, it's week one, lots of crazy things happen...would you bet $1000 if these teams meet in the playoffs the end result would be the same? Hell no...Chiefs would get curb stomped. Brady is 40. His arm might be **** by the playoffs. He isn't a god.
devldog131 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Listened to 98.5 the Sports Hub on the way into work this morning (because it's always so entertaining when Boston loses) and heard a great analogy for the events in Foxborough last night. Between the hype, the banner, and the celebration, the Patriots were Apollo Creed coming out for his fight with Ivan Drago in Rocky IV, dancing and having a great time stroking his own ego. The Chiefs were Ivan Drago, standing in the ring watching in disgust as it all went on around him. I think we all know how that ended up... "If he dies, he dies." Edited September 8, 2017 by devldog131
blacklabel Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I'd say the Patriots are going to have issues on defense this season but... it's Bellichick and he'll make adjustments to hide their weaknesses. They may struggle up front, though. Their front seven isn't very good, they don't have any solid pass rushers and they'll be hurting more if Hightower has to miss significant time. They're pretty good in the secondary but yeah, it feels like they may struggle. And offensively, Brady looked inaccurate on throws he routinely makes. Gronk appeared to get hurt on that non-TD catch in the first quarter. But again, it's the Pats, they'll adjust and I'm gonna bet they'll roast New Orleans next week.
RyanC883 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 The Pat's D couldn't solve Alex Smith and K. Hunt. Good luck against TT and Shady--or Big Ben and Bell. Or Carr and whatever RB they use that game. The Pat's O could't do ANYTHING when KC shut-down the intermediate routes. Brady could dance all day and still miss people. KC's WR's are equal to or worse than ours. This wasn't good players getting beat. This was a sub=par roster. Hopefully the Pats hubris will catch up to them. Maybe Clay too.Its why I have such a big issue with the Watkins trade. Makes me think these guys don't have a pulse on the league or they are so egotistical they don't want anything to do with the previous regimes drafted players, no matter how good.None of which are good. Not worried about Watkins. Matthews, Clay, and Zay are plenty. Oh, also, Shady. We have more offensive talent than KC. (including our line.) I'm more worried about our ability to take away the intermediate passes that Brady and the Pats live on.
Fan in San Diego Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I pity the fool who plays them next.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) The Pat's D couldn't solve Alex Smith and K. Hunt. Good luck against TT and Shady--or Big Ben and Bell. Or Carr and whatever RB they use that game. The Pat's O could't do ANYTHING when KC shut-down the intermediate routes. Brady could dance all day and still miss people. KC's WR's are equal to or worse than ours. This wasn't good players getting beat. This was a sub=par roster. Hopefully the Pats hubris will catch up to them. Not worried about Watkins. Matthews, Clay, and Zay are plenty. Oh, also, Shady. We have more offensive talent than KC. (including our line.) I'm more worried about our ability to take away the intermediate passes that Brady and the Pats live on. The point that Scott and I were both making is that chunk plays killed the Pats. KC has guys that you have to game plan for. The Bills only have Shady at this point. We have guys that are pretty good football players but not guys that can hurt you. Sammy can hurt you. Tyreke Hill can hurt you. Kelce can hurt you. Teams scheme for those guys. Speed kills!! You can't plan on 15 play drives to score every drive. The numbers don't support that. It's like needing 3 hits in an inning to score a run. It's not a sustainable recipe for success. You need some big plays and you need some home runs. The Chiefs did it all night. Edited September 8, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 I give more props to KC, that defense looks legit but huge blow losing Eric Berry probably for the season with a torn achilles. The corners were right up on the WR's and if you have a dominant S like Berry that's what you need to do against Gronk also, I don't think we have the secondary yet to do what KC did but that should be the formula for the season stopping the Pats for the better teams.
OldTimer1960 Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Maybe Clay too. Its why I have such a big issue with the Watkins trade. Makes me think these guys don't have a pulse on the league or they are so egotistical they don't want anything to do with the previous regimes drafted players, no matter how good. None of which are good. The trade was to get something for Watkins rather than losing him with no compensation at the end of this season. I have no doubt that they knew that they were accepting a downgrade at WR when they made that trade, but they knew that he hey were unlikely to make the playoffs this year with or without Watkins, so we're happy to pocket the draft pick and what looks like a competent CB.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 The trade was to get something for Watkins rather than losing him with no compensation at the end of this season. I have no doubt that they knew that they were accepting a downgrade at WR when they made that trade, but they knew that he hey were unlikely to make the playoffs this year with or without Watkins, so we're happy to pocket the draft pick and what looks like a competent CB.Or they could have just kept him?
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