IDBillzFan Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) It seems to me you are giving the police the benefit of the doubt. That is not wrong on the surface. It's okay to have an opinion. But I think you are. Sure, neither of us know right now. And sure, we have to wait until all the evidence comes out. And it's likely somewhere in the middle, but maybe not. This kind of thing seems to happen all the time. I don't think he is just making that up. I could be wrong. I'm more likely to believe it's a lot closer to what he said than the cop did nothing out reason. I'm giving the entire event the benefit of the doubt based on the video I watched because that's all I have, other than Bennett's account, and the only thing the video supports in Bennett's account is that he is being arrested by cops in Vegas. And to be clear, I would not be surprised if Bennett's account turns out to be accurate any more than I'd be surprised to find out the whole thing was blown out of proportion. Nothing surprises me any more. Edited September 6, 2017 by LABillzFan
4merper4mer Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) The tweet does not say it is from the Seahawks. It says it is from a Seahawk. @RapSheet Here is the official release from #Seahawks DL Michael Bennett on being assaulted by Las Vegas PD: What am I missing? Edit: You're right. The logo in between confused me. Edited September 6, 2017 by 4merper4mer
scribo Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 And Bennett's comparison to Michael Brown shows that the truth was defined for him by the press before Eric Holder's justice department, try as they might, could not see anything racial in his death. This unfortunately waters down the harm felt by true injustices, racial or not, and stiffens two sides against each other. I have a hard time blaming Bennett all that much really. He has simply fallen for the bait. There are plenty on the "other side" that have fallen for bait as well. It all feeds off of itself. Rappaport's attribution of that press release to The Seahawks is a perfect example of what you have mentioned here. It does not take more than a 75 IQ to read that and in literally one second, see it is not from the Seahawks. But Ian is either too stupid, too commie, or too hurried to read it. I think it is probably a little of all three. I've commented about both these posts earlier in this thread. I agree invoking Brown's name does Bennett no good whatsoever. As for Rappaport, reread his tweet. He does NOT attribute the release to the Seahawks. What am I missing? Edit: You're right. I read it incorrectly the first couple of times, too. I think the issue is the over-sized Seahawk graphic breaks up the flow and gives an illusion.
IDBillzFan Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 And Bennett's comparison to Michael Brown shows that the truth was defined for him by the press before Eric Holder's justice department. This is kinda what I mean about the truth being established now with Bennett, before the actual truth comes out. Evidence ultimately showed what happened with Michael Brown, but it didn't keep Ferguson from burning down because no one was willing to wait for the evidence.
zonabb Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 No one should start topics here that deal with civil rights, equity, freedom or liberty because this is a place where Neanderthals live. This is the place where people think brawn over brains matter in football. It's no shock it only took a few posts before the Neanderthals responded to the Neanderthal signal and came out in droves. The irony is these same Neanderthals are the ones who are blindly patriotic and get rock hard when the anthem is sung or they see a service member but they just can't make the synapses fire enough to realize the connection between all things they love and our civil rights, freedoms, and liberties. So the guy taking a bullet for our freedom is a hero, but the guy trying to hold the system to those expectation is a baby and should just suck it up, which in fact makes one wonder what the guy you love is taking the bullet for anyway.
4merper4mer Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 I've commented about both these posts earlier in this thread. I agree invoking Brown's name does Bennett no good whatsoever. As for Rappaport, reread his tweet. He does NOT attribute the release to the Seahawks. I read it incorrectly the first couple of times, too. I think the issue is the over-sized Seahawk graphic breaks up the flow and gives an illusion. I agree. The logo fooled me into thinking he attributed it to the team. I'll take the blame on that one but not without a shout out to Ian to write a little more clearly. This is kinda what I mean about the truth being established now with Bennett, before the actual truth comes out. Evidence ultimately showed what happened with Michael Brown, but it didn't keep Ferguson from burning down because no one was willing to wait for the evidence. Exactly. Some people are mad, some are in a hurry to get a scoop, and some are commies driving an agenda and taking advantage of the other two groups along with their supposed opponents.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 @RapSheet Per @LVMPD, the statements made by #Seahawks DL Michael Bennett are “under investigation.” They will address it later today. @MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo Retweeted Ian Rapoport Talked to attorney John Burris. He said he has made requests of LVMPD for info that have not been honored to this point.
4merper4mer Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 No one should start topics here that deal with civil rights, equity, freedom or liberty because this is a place where Neanderthals live. This is the place where people think brawn over brains matter in football. It's no shock it only took a few posts before the Neanderthals responded to the Neanderthal signal and came out in droves. The irony is these same Neanderthals are the ones who are blindly patriotic and get rock hard when the anthem is sung or they see a service member but they just can't make the synapses fire enough to realize the connection between all things they love and our civil rights, freedoms, and liberties. So the guy taking a bullet for our freedom is a hero, but the guy trying to hold the system to those expectation is a baby and should just suck it up, which in fact makes one wonder what the guy you love is taking the bullet for anyway. You are so correct to stereotype people in the name of not wanting people stereotyped. You must be super smart.
T-Bomb Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 No one should start topics here that deal with civil rights, equity, freedom or liberty because this is a place where Neanderthals live. This is the place where people think brawn over brains matter in football. It's no shock it only took a few posts before the Neanderthals responded to the Neanderthal signal and came out in droves. The irony is these same Neanderthals are the ones who are blindly patriotic and get rock hard when the anthem is sung or they see a service member but they just can't make the synapses fire enough to realize the connection between all things they love and our civil rights, freedoms, and liberties. So the guy taking a bullet for our freedom is a hero, but the guy trying to hold the system to those expectation is a baby and should just suck it up, which in fact makes one wonder what the guy you love is taking the bullet for anyway. Go visit third wave feminist forums or something instead, be with your kind etc.
Buffalo716 Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 It was unbearable for him the pain of being handcuffed lol There are pockets of racism everywhere but America IS NOT INHERENTLY RACIST Michael Bennett is the racist for protesting our anthem and making white people out as inherently racist. He's a joke and i hope he realizes how ignorant he is
dwight in philly Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) You are so correct to stereotype people in the name of not wanting people stereotyped. You must be super smart. well said! you gotta love the SJW mindset! lol Edited September 6, 2017 by dwight in philly
Max Fischer Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 This is a joke right? A big man who plays a contact sport is whining about being hurt? He met the description one would clearly understand or believe. He was put to the ground and held at gun point as any possible suspect with a gun would be and he's upset? If the police went up to him nicely would he have complied? When you're detained it is not the time to plead to be let go or say I did nothing wrong. A case of great example is Adolphus Washington. How was he profiled? Give me a break and tell this baby to go get a bottle. With no more evidence than Bennett's letter, you seem to be pretty certain that officers' actions were justified. I see no evidence support or discredit your assumptions. Personally, I'll wait and see; but it sure sounds like it could have been a very unpleasant experience for anyone.
T-Bomb Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Personally, I'll wait and see; but it sure sounds like it could have been a very unpleasant experience for anyone. I'm not sure in what situation it is ever pleasant to be thrown to the ground and cuffed, oh wait.
4merper4mer Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 There's always a reasonable explanation for why things are handled the way they are. In this case, I'm sure the police didn't target Bennett specifically unless he fit the description of an active shooter in the downtown of a city where anything and everything happens. Couple that with the fact that it was fight night, very high profile people from around the world, not just a black football player, are there. The police were on heightened alert for anything and everything. Let's say that Bennett fit the description. Should the police just approach him and ask in a polite and professional manner if he was shooting a gun in a large crowd of people or should they detain that person(as they did) and make sure he wasn't the one with the gun? From what I saw, he got off pretty easy given the situation that was unfolding around them. Bennett already has a preconceived agenda that he needs to get out there and this worked out perfectly for him to do that. I've been in a situation worse than him, where I've had multiple weapons pointed at me,(from police of multiple races) dragged from a vehicle, slammed into a car and cuffed violently. I had to go to the hospital from the injuries received, only after I was detained, questioned and let go because I was completely innocent but in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people. It was my own fault for being there and I understood that. Granted it wasn't mistaken identity but I should never have been there in the first place. I didn't sue because it was my fault too. I guess if I had an agenda, maybe I should have but I was a young white kid out with a friend, who was with other people I didn't know. I'm just thankful the police didn't react to hastily or I wouldn't be here. The officers apologized, so did I and that was that. Sometimes we should just be thankful that there are people out there protecting us(even from ourselves) and sometimes have to go about that protection in various degrees to keep us all safe. There is more unknown than known from the video IMO. I don't see a crowd of people running. I only see Bennett, and he isn't running. What was the pre-video interaction between the cop and Bennett? Unknown How far away from the shooting are they? Unknown Are there other nearby people being detained? Unknown Are they detaining him because he fit a description, he was running, he was a big black guy, he was shouting Jeff the police, they hate the Seahawks? Unknown My point is that based on the video, we can't assume Bennett's story is completely accurate, but we also can't assume it is inaccurate. Bennett could be 100% right, 100% stirring the pot, remembering things incorrectly because people do that in stressful situations, or have some things right and some wrong. The video, at least to me, does not validate or refute his story at all. I think LA's point on the "truth" being established before a high percentage of the information is available is very true and very sad.
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) From a police officer's perspective, look at it this way. This is an active shooter event. Officer says, get on the ground. Suspect runs from police officer, who matches description of an active shooter. What would you think? If the cop threatened his life, that is clearly overboard. It is important to get all of the facts instead of making emotional decisions like most SJW's do Edited September 6, 2017 by Dablitzkrieg
Sig1Hunter Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Saying "if you move, I will kill you" to a shooting suspect doesn't seem out of bounds. Actually shooting a suspect who makes a non threatening move, would be out of bounds. Not sure where the problem is. Edited September 6, 2017 by Sig1Hunter
thunderingsquid Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 This is a joke right? A big man who plays a contact sport is whining about being hurt? He met the description one would clearly understand or believe. He was put to the ground and held at gun point as any possible suspect with a gun would be and he's upset? If the police went up to him nicely would he have complied? When you're detained it is not the time to plead to be let go or say I did nothing wrong. A case of great example is Adolphus Washington. How was he profiled? Give me a break and tell this baby to go get a bottle. ...and you're in North Carolina? What a surprise!
Augie Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 This won't be pretty. It sure smells bad at first, but I can't have a strong position without a lot more information. Like..... ALL of it. Even then, you won't catch me trying to win anyone over here. Ain't gonna happen, no matter where I happen to fall on the issue.
Magox Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 @RapSheet Here is the official release from #Seahawks DL Michael Bennett on being assaulted by Las Vegas PD: What I want to know is who was the supper bowl champion?
Max Fischer Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 From a police officer's perspective, look at it this way. This is an active shooter event. Officer says, get on the ground. Suspect runs from police officer, who matches description of an active shooter. What would you think? If the cop threatened his life, that is clearly overboard. It is important to get all of the facts instead of making emotional decisions like most SJW's do I haven't see any report that suggests Bennett was told to get on the ground, he ran from the police, matched the description of an active shooter, etc. All those things MAY have happened but we'll see. There is no doubt police are put in very stressful situations but then again, there are more than a handful of incidents to suggest that Bennett could have a good case that he was unfairly targeted.
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