PABillsfan23 Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Really Williams has proven nothing but his inability to hold on to the ball. People are freaking out over an average at best back up running back. I actually thought Banyard was better than Williams. JB looked more explosive and better catching passes
vincec Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 What has Jonathan Williams ever done to deserve such praise? I'll wait.. Um, what praise are you talking about? That he has the potential to be a better runner than those other three? He looks better than Tolbert and just as good as Banyard, but is several years younger. Should be obvious.
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 My favorite thing about Taiwan Jones is they just gave him Cardale's #7 jersey to avoid having to make a a new one
BADOLBILZ Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 @TCBills_Astro Gillislee ---5.7 YPC, 47 carries Jon Williams---5.8 YPC on 21 carries Taiwan Jones---6.6 YPC on 11 carries It's the Line. #Bills But what does that say about Shady? Torches and pitchforks for Astro! Who's with me! In all honesty this frickin' Dawkins dude is a TENACIOUS run blocker........some of his finishes in preseason were Peters-esque.
BringBackOrton Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Aren't all draft evaluations and criticisms in hindsight? I know you hate Whaley, but a lot of his "gems" were part of a top 5 defense. His downfall, obviously, was his undying commitment to EJ Manuel. But how many GMs find their franchise QB on purpose? He deserves criticism, but if you think for one minute that Whaley is responsible for the current state of the team, I would respectfully disagree. Terry Pegula, and his hard on for Rex Ryan, is responsible. This team, after Whaley's drafts, trades and acquisitions, was a QB away from being a powerhouse. And that, my friend, can be said for a lot of teams. Answer: Nothing. What players did Whaley draft that were gems in the top 5 defense?
BADOLBILZ Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 My favorite thing about Taiwan Jones is they just gave him Cardale's #7 jersey to avoid having to make a a new one My favorite thing is that he gets returners going sideways where Lorax can jack them up.
Max Fischer Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 My only real concern is that without developmental talent in place.......Banyard is 29?........they might talk themselves into using a high pick on a RB next draft and they really need to get away from that mindset. Not sure I understand this point, but I would have no problem drafting a RB with great potential. To me (and apparently the coaching staff) JW was not back-up material, let alone a potential starter post-McCoy.
QCity Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 What players did Whaley draft that were gems in the top 5 defense? Shhhhhh. It's fun to believe he built a top-5 defense.
Max Fischer Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Um, what praise are you talking about? That he has the potential to be a better runner than those other three? He looks better than Tolbert and just as good as Banyard, but is several years younger. Should be obvious. Yet . . . it wasn't obvious to many people, including the professional coaching staff and talent evaluators. Could it be that JW does not, infact, have "the potential to be a better runner than the other three." Appears to be the case.
BADOLBILZ Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Max.......it's a passing league and starting RB's are a dime a dozen. Rushless!
Max Fischer Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Max.......it's a passing league and starting RB's are a dime a dozen. Rushless! Perhaps, but then I don't get all the handwringing over the "dime for two dozen" back like JW.
PABillsfan23 Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Um, what praise are you talking about? That he has the potential to be a better runner than those other three? He looks better than Tolbert and just as good as Banyard, but is several years younger. Should be obvious. All what ifs.. he's nothing special.
vincec Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 All what ifs.. he's nothing special. Well the Bills will never find out.
Doc Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Perhaps, but then I don't get all the handwringing over the "dime for two dozen" back like JW. Or MG.
vincec Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Or MG. Or anyone on this team really. Is there anyone who you would wring your hands over if they got cut?
Rob's House Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Aren't all draft evaluations and criticisms in hindsight? That's the point. I know you hate Whaley, but a lot of his "gems" were part of a top 5 defense. His downfall, obviously, was his undying commitment to EJ Manuel. But how many GMs find their franchise QB on purpose? He deserves criticism, but if you think for one minute that Whaley is responsible for the current state of the team, I would respectfully disagree. Terry Pegula, and his hard on for Rex Ryan, is responsible. This team, after Whaley's drafts, trades and acquisitions, was a QB away from being a powerhouse. And that, my friend, can be said for a lot of teams. I don't hate Whaley, I just don't love him either. I've just found the love affair a sizeable portion of the fanbase have with him fascinating. And Whaley didn't have many gems on that D. That unit was in place the day he took office.
Doc Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Or anyone on this team really. Is there anyone who you would wring your hands over if they got cut? Shady. Dareus. Hughes. Those are the only true difference makers.
BADOLBILZ Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Shady. Dareus. Hughes. Those are the only true difference makers. Wuddabout 10-sack Shaq? I am going to create a new stat called a "Saq"........it will be slightly easier to get than a sack.
Rico Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Wuddabout 10-sack Shaq? I am going to create a new stat called a "Saq"........it will be slightly easier to get than a sack. Could be living on borrowed time.
vincec Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Shady. Dareus. Hughes. Those are the only true difference makers.Ok. Did you wring your hands when Sammy was traded? Btw- The only one of those that I expect to see on the roster two years from now is Hughes. Edited September 5, 2017 by vincec
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