metzelaars_lives Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Not sure if I'm a big fan of mason Rudolph. He plays in a much more gimmicky offense. Sure in a big conference... but they don't believe in defense over there. Josh Allen has intrigue because he has no real receivers and knows a pro style offense, with a big arm. He needs development but the coach isn't helping him by not recruiting better receivers Read my last reply. They had incredible receivers last year. They all graduated. If you would've asked me before this season, I would've told you that their defense will be improved but their offense lost too many weapons. They will be worse than last year. Allen's numbers will probably be worse than last year. It's just frustrating- even the guy at halftime alluded to the "high-powered Wyoming offense." It's almost as if no one is paying attention to the actual circumstances. He did make some bad throws today- he's prone to those. But anyone who watched even today's game can see he has all the tools. Like I said, wait til they settle into their MWC schedule and his skill position players have a few college football games under their belts. Quote
MAJBobby Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 After this game is is still one of the College QBs i will be watching for the Bills to draft. Quote
CommonCents Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Him and Paxton Lynch could get together and make Brockweiler babies. Hard pass. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 They had incredible receivers last year. They all graduated. If you would've asked me before this season, I would've told you that their defense will be improved but their offense lost too many weapons. They will be worse than last year. Allen's numbers will probably be worse than last year. It's just frustrating- even the guy at halftime alluded to the "high-powered Wyoming offense." It's almost as if no one is paying attention to the actual circumstances. He did make some bad throws today- he's prone to those. But anyone who watched even today's game can see he has all the tools. Like I said, wait til they settle into their MWC schedule and his skill position players have a few college football games under their belts. That's why I said RECRUIT better receivers. He lost them and his new receivers don't look that great. He should look phenomenal in the MWC... it's the MWC. It would've been nice to see against a power 5 team Quote
#34fan Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 The speed difference in defenses between conferences is a HUGE hurdle for Qb's trying to punch above their weight.... Only the absolute best of the best can overcome it, and that still takes the help of a veteran bunch on offense. With a kid in Allen's situation, you look for improved numbers over the next few games, and greater confidence within his system. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 The speed difference in defenses between conferences is a HUGE hurdle for Qb's trying to punch above their weight.... Only the absolute best of the best can overcome it, and that still takes the help of a veteran bunch on offense. With a kid in Allen's situation, you look for improved numbers over the next few games, and greater confidence within his system. Well he plays Gardner Webb next week lol so he better look like big ben Quote
metzelaars_lives Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 That's why I said RECRUIT better receivers. He lost them and his new receivers don't look that great. He should look phenomenal in the MWC... it's the MWC. It would've been nice to see against a power 5 team They were playing their first college football games. I wouldn't rush to judgment on MWC freshmen playing their first college football games at Big Ten schools with above average Big Ten defenses. Well he plays Gardner Webb next week lol so he better look like big ben Agreed! I'll be there. Quote
BuffaloFan68 Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 After today's game I'm jumping on the Mason Rudolph band-wagon. Sorry Josh Allen but would prefer you as a Jet after today's performance. Go Bills!!!!! Quote
#34fan Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Well he plays Gardner Webb next week lol so he better look like big ben -Yah, that's why I said over the next FEW games, Oregon, and Hawaii after that should offer some chances to redeem himself. Quote
KellyToughII Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 That was an absolute crap performance. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 I switched to texas- Maryland. Great game. So Allen sucks now? Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 That was an absolute crap performance. It was. Tempted to say any chance of being the #1 pick went too. If he pulls it together he can still go very high because yes you can see tools but he needs to play a hell of a lot better than that. Quote
Captain Murica Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Just wait until 2018-19 for Wimbush. Quote
#34fan Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 It was. Tempted to say any chance of being the #1 pick went too. If he pulls it together he can still go very high because yes you can see tools but he needs to play a hell of a lot better than that. Anyone who thought there was a serious chance he could go number one, probably doesn't watch a lot of CFB... I'd pay more attention to the Oregon game, if I were judging... And remember that in CFB, it's not so much player vs. Player as it is system vs. system, and coach vs. Coach.. Quote
MAJBobby Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Better look good in his last power 5 conference game. Has 1 left in a couple weeks Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Anyone who thought there was a serious chance he could go number one, probably doesn't watch a lot of CFB... I'd pay more attention to the Oregon game, if I were judging... And remember that in CFB, it's not so much player vs. Player as it is system vs. system, and coach vs. Coach.. Yea there was like no chance he goes #1 overall. And as far as systems Iowa runs a pretty standard 43. And they were missing their best CB. I expect a bounce back but this was his game against a nfl style defense to show he deserved the hype Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Yea there was like no chance he goes #1 overall. And as far as systems Iowa runs a pretty standard 43. And they were missing their best CB. I expect a bounce back but this was his game against a nfl style defense to show he deserved the hype You think NFL scouts care about 1 game? They look at the entire body of work since his HS playing days up until now to see how he's progressed throughout the years, then they start picking apart the flaws/character and then determine the grade on each of these QB's. There is so much to like about Allen, besides his size (6'5", 234 lbs. or so), he has the arm to throw it from one side of the field to the other with ease as he displayed today, now you don't want to see him doing that very often even if he can because in the NFL that's a pick 6 almost every time, he has a gun slinger mentality and sometimes he gets a bit reckless with it, he also can throw all the NFL throws from his entire body of work that I've watched so far, he hasn't perfected them all yet but after seeing him make the throws i have zero doubt in my mind with solid coaching this kid can be something special, I also feel this way about Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold and Lamar Jackson, I know many people hate the way Jackson plays, I'm not necessarily a fan of running QB's but he also has a very good arm, he only completed 56% of his passes but an astounding 24.3% was a result of drops by WR/TE/RB, I'd like to see each drop and determine whether it was catchable or not. Also the OL for the Cards wasn't great as I recall, just my opinions. Edited September 2, 2017 by BuffaloBillsGospel Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 You think NFL scouts care about 1 game? They look at the entire body of work since his HS playing days up until now to see how he's progressed throughout the years, then they start picking apart the flaws/character and then determine the grade on each of these QB's. There is so much to like about Allen, besides his size (6'5", 234 lbs. or so), he has the arm to throw it from one side of the field to the other with ease as he displayed today, now you don't want to see him doing that very often even if he can because in the NFL that's a pick 6 almost every time, he has a gun slinger mentality and sometimes he gets a bit reckless with it, he also can throw all the NFL throws from his entire body of work that I've watched so far, he hasn't perfected them all yet but after seeing him make the throws i have zero doubt in my mind with solid coaching this kid can be something special, I also feel this way about Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold and Lamar Jackson, I know many people hate the way Jackson plays, I'm not necessarily a fan of running QB's but he also has a very good arm, he only completed 56% of his passes but an astounding 24.3% was a result of drops by WR/TE/RB, I'd like to see each drop and determine whether it was catchable or not. Also the OL for the Cards wasn't great as I recall, just my opinions. Obviously it's 1 game but it's concerning. As for Lamar Jackson, I have watched a bunch of him. He is very fun to watch but his arm is not as good as Vicks. Vick had a special arm and a very crisp over the top snap release. Lamars arm is good but not as electric. He is taller and a very good runner as well so he is intriguing. Darnold and Rosen 1-2 for me. With darnold not even gonna come out this year. Allen has potential but needs to clean a lot up Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 This guy got way too hyped up. Good skills but you should be dominating in the MWC. Fairly interesting prospect but he has a lot of work to do to be a NFL qb. Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 Obviously it's 1 game but it's concerning. As for Lamar Jackson, I have watched a bunch of him. He is very fun to watch but his arm is not as good as Vicks. Vick had a special arm and a very crisp over the top snap release. Lamars arm is good but not as electric. He is taller and a very good runner as well so he is intriguing. Darnold and Rosen 1-2 for me. With darnold not even gonna come out this year. Allen has potential but needs to clean a lot up I don't like making comparisons to established NFL players, Vick was in a league of his own, I think he was a better runner than Jackson with a better arm than him also but I think Jackson is more of a polished thrower than Vick, Vick needed to work that part in where I don't think Jackson will have to. I agree with Darnold 1 and Rosen 2 but tell me why unless he wants to get a degree would Darnold elect to stay in school unless he wasn't considered a top 1-5 pick? It would make no sense for him not to make himself eligible unless like I said he doesn't get that high grade. Quote
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