Chicken Boo Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 What's more American than freedom of speech and freedom of expression? Nothing. Here here!
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Sorry, I do not see it that way. They are just attention seekers, nothing more. How many African Americans died on the field of battle so they can act like a little child and dishonor their sacrifice. Censorship you dishonor their sacrifice what are you not getting here
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 What a non story. I served and continue to serve, in no way am I slighted if a guy kneels, drinks, keeps his hat on, etc. The media pushes it because it's a story, lazy journalism if you ask me. And blind allegiance to a country shouldn't be forced. You don't force people to put their hands over their hearts or remove their hats. That's not a democracy. Start yelling and shouting, then we have a problem but other than that leave people be. Exactly. That's for totalitarian regimes like North Korea,
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 That is strictly your opinion based on the meaning you ascribe to the National Anthem. If you don't understand the "meaning" of the National Anthem, time for you to move.
HardyBoy Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 It's not about "conservative", it is about patriotism, love of the country and respect. These players little stunts do nothing for their cause. Their is a time and place for discussion of ideas. The National Anthem is about honoring our Country and remembering the cost of their freedom to act stupid. Peoples lives. A song shows you are patriotic? Wow, you might feel powerful, but very clear you have given up your power to the propogandists. This country is built upon ideas, ideals, morality and the notion that one has free will to control their own selves as long as that does not impede on other's rights. Nothing else, and anyone who goes against that is unpatriotic, period. You have allowed your tv, and the people behind it, to strip you of the ability to see those incredibly powerful ideas, and have them replaced by their talking points that you parrot back like a sheep. In their place they insert a symbol, a flag or a song, that triggers their pre-conditioned response out of you. Go watch the Manchurian Candidate (the original), the anthem your Queen of Hearts.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I swear if any Bills player doesn't stand for the National Anthem and the team does nothing about it I will not support this team any longer. Who is with me? Crickets.
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Censorship you dishonor their sacrifice what are you not getting here Censorship??? LOL You are special.
bmur66 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Posted September 1, 2017 What's more American than freedom of speech and freedom of expression? Nothing. Apparently the right to be a bunghole is now more American than freedom of speech
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 If you don't understand the "meaning" of the National Anthem, time for you to move. What is its meaning other than a tribute to the War of 1812 by Francis Scott Key? You don't know what being an American is if you think people who don't agree with you should leave the country.
PolishDave Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 And yet Colin Kaepernick has done more for the people than any single person on this thread. Hmmm interesting how that is Hey Maj. - how about the next time you are on a base and they play reveille followed by the national anthem - you bring your glove and raise a fist like that guy. Bet you don't have the balls.
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I will absolutely never get your obsession with standing for the national anthem, here in the UK we only know a few of the words and rarely ever actually sing it. I know all of the words. I even know the little known second verse. I also know the words to the Star Spangled Banner. I know which I prefer to sing..... and it isn't the one about God and Queen.
GG Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 If only he devoted as much time to perfecting his craft we wouldn't have so many concussed QBs
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 If you don't understand the "meaning" of the National Anthem, time for you to move. Yes the weak get out statements
Chicken Boo Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Plus I never got why we need an anthem played before a sporting event in the first place?In the NFL's case, they were getting paid by the defense Department for the intrest of advertisement and recruitment. How's that for Patriotic? Edited September 1, 2017 by Chicken Boo
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 What is the point. Dont try to tell me it is disrespectful to the military or nation What a non story. I served and continue to serve, in no way am I slighted if a guy kneels, drinks, keeps his hat on, etc. The media pushes it because it's a story, lazy journalism if you ask me. And blind allegiance to a country shouldn't be forced. You don't force people to put their hands over their hearts or remove their hats. That's not a democracy. Start yelling and shouting, then we have a problem but other than that leave people be. Much respect for both of you.
4_kidd_4 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Apparently the right to be a bunghole is now more American than freedom of speech Well I'm certainly not gonna talk in circles here. Your opinion is not fact. Freedom of speech is. You don't have to agree with people's personal stances, but every good American should respect the fact that everyone is allowed to have a voice, whether or not you agree.
boyst Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Make this **** stop. Please! Make it stop! We need to ban anyone who starts these threads or pulls this crap. It's tired and worn out. No one is changing their mind
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Censorship??? LOL You are special. No you are. You are advocating a group of people to really force an organization to strip the Constitutional Rights from people. Who is special?
Andrew Son Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Apparently the right to be a bunghole is now more American than freedom of speech Freedom is freedom, regardless of if it offends you.
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Hey Maj. - how about the next time you are on a base and they play reveille followed by the national anthem - you bring your glove and raise a fist like that guy. Bet you don't have the balls. Bet i dont either. Dont want UCMJ actions And again that is less about the Song and more about what is going on with the Flag at that point Edited September 1, 2017 by MAJBobby
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