BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 I went the 2012 Redskins approach with this one. Unfortunately, not many value options at OL during this sim... 21: R1P21 QB SAM DARNOLD USC27: R1P27 DL LOWELL LOTULELEI UTAH53: R2P21 WR DEON CAIN CLEMSON58: R2P26 LB MALIK JEFFERSON TEXAS96: R3P32 EDGE JOSH SWEAT FLORIDA STATE123: R4P21 QB JOSH ALLEN WYOMING159: R5P21 WR BRAXTON BERRIOS MIAMI161: R5P23 S STEVEN PARKER OKLAHOMA Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 12 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I think they end up with Rudolph or Allen. Neither Darnold (of he comes out) or Rosen, will be available when we pick, and there's too many needs going forward to move all those picks to move up for a guy that's a bit a "sure thing". I think they'll look at Jackson and feel that he's a guy that has to move outside the pocket too much, whereas they want a guy who will be a 3-step & throw kind of player. I believe they'll be worried about Mayfield's height. If he was actually 6'2", I don't think they'd be as worried, but if he's 6'0 or 6'1 I think they want a guy who has better vision over the line of scrimmage. Kind of irritates me because I think he'll be a good quarterback, but it's all a guessing game. I believe they might even see Allen as possibly the best/most talented guy in the draft that just hasn't had his talent properly developed... Rudolph could be another option. Stands tall in the pocket, decent accuracy on the short to medium stuff, but the question with him is how much has the system at Oklahoma St. helped them. I actually agree with your breakdown of how the Bills might end up looking at it. Quote
Billsfansinceday1 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I went the 2012 Redskins approach with this one. Unfortunately, not many value options at OL during this sim... 21: R1P21 QB SAM DARNOLD USC27: R1P27 DL LOWELL LOTULELEI UTAH53: R2P21 WR DEON CAIN CLEMSON58: R2P26 LB MALIK JEFFERSON TEXAS96: R3P32 EDGE JOSH SWEAT FLORIDA STATE123: R4P21 QB JOSH ALLEN WYOMING159: R5P21 WR BRAXTON BERRIOS MIAMI161: R5P23 S STEVEN PARKER OKLAHOMA Looks good except that our QB will get killed without help on the right side. If we were to take Darnold, I doubt we would also take Allen with other more pressing needs (OT and backup to Shady). Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 21. Buffalo Bills | James Washington | WR | Oklahoma State The depth chart at receiver has gotten thin after the loss of Sammy Watkins and the Anquan Boldin’s brief stint in Orchard Park, and pairing an explosive field-stretcher like Washington with a strong possession target in Zay Jones would be a perfect match. 27. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Mason Rudolph | QB | Oklahoma State The Bills may yet make an attempt to invest long-term in Tyrod Taylor, but if they don’t, they’ll need to find his replacement sooner than later. If they’re not convinced Nate Peterman can be the future at quarterback, pairing up Rudolph with his favorite target from Stillwater would be fun to watch. 53. Buffalo Bills | Tegray Scales | LB | Indiana 58. Buffalo Bills (from LAR) | Dre’Mont Jones | DL | Ohio State 96. Buffalo Bills (from PHI) | Bryce Love | RB | Stanford 117. Buffalo Bills | Iman Marshall | CB | USC Works for me! Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 21. Buffalo Bills | James Washington | WR | Oklahoma State The depth chart at receiver has gotten thin after the loss of Sammy Watkins and the Anquan Boldin’s brief stint in Orchard Park, and pairing an explosive field-stretcher like Washington with a strong possession target in Zay Jones would be a perfect match. 27. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Mason Rudolph | QB | Oklahoma State The Bills may yet make an attempt to invest long-term in Tyrod Taylor, but if they don’t, they’ll need to find his replacement sooner than later. If they’re not convinced Nate Peterman can be the future at quarterback, pairing up Rudolph with his favorite target from Stillwater would be fun to watch. 53. Buffalo Bills | Tegray Scales | LB | Indiana 58. Buffalo Bills (from LAR) | Dre’Mont Jones | DL | Ohio State 96. Buffalo Bills (from PHI) | Bryce Love | RB | Stanford 117. Buffalo Bills | Iman Marshall | CB | USC Works for me! Best mock so far! Quote
The Now Moment Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: What do you think about Magnifico? While he's been a better weapon for them this year, he's still only a sophomore and he's been playing as a complement player (which most tight ends do). Next year, I hope he becomes the passing weapon on that team. Unfortunately for him, Ferguson is a senior. Would love to see him beef up a little while keeping his wheels. He has a lot of developing to do but he will be on draft radars in the near future. He's just not there as of now IMO Edited November 15, 2017 by Buffalo30 1 Quote
thunderingsquid Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 10:08 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: Maybe , but I think the LBs have been solid (at least when Milano was in there) but since Marcy got traded we can't stop the run. Having two 340 pounders (from my draft) will go along way to giving us "better" LBs. A Sam Adams, Pat Williams duo? Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 21. Buffalo Bills | James Washington | WR | Oklahoma State The depth chart at receiver has gotten thin after the loss of Sammy Watkins and the Anquan Boldin’s brief stint in Orchard Park, and pairing an explosive field-stretcher like Washington with a strong possession target in Zay Jones would be a perfect match. 27. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Mason Rudolph | QB | Oklahoma State The Bills may yet make an attempt to invest long-term in Tyrod Taylor, but if they don’t, they’ll need to find his replacement sooner than later. If they’re not convinced Nate Peterman can be the future at quarterback, pairing up Rudolph with his favorite target from Stillwater would be fun to watch. 53. Buffalo Bills | Tegray Scales | LB | Indiana 58. Buffalo Bills (from LAR) | Dre’Mont Jones | DL | Ohio State 96. Buffalo Bills (from PHI) | Bryce Love | RB | Stanford 117. Buffalo Bills | Iman Marshall | CB | USC Works for me! Beane will get GM of the year with this mock Quote
thunderingsquid Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 21. Buffalo Bills | James Washington | WR | Oklahoma State The depth chart at receiver has gotten thin after the loss of Sammy Watkins and the Anquan Boldin’s brief stint in Orchard Park, and pairing an explosive field-stretcher like Washington with a strong possession target in Zay Jones would be a perfect match. 27. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Mason Rudolph | QB | Oklahoma State The Bills may yet make an attempt to invest long-term in Tyrod Taylor, but if they don’t, they’ll need to find his replacement sooner than later. If they’re not convinced Nate Peterman can be the future at quarterback, pairing up Rudolph with his favorite target from Stillwater would be fun to watch. 53. Buffalo Bills | Tegray Scales | LB | Indiana 58. Buffalo Bills (from LAR) | Dre’Mont Jones | DL | Ohio State 96. Buffalo Bills (from PHI) | Bryce Love | RB | Stanford 117. Buffalo Bills | Iman Marshall | CB | USC Works for me! Yes, this would be great if it worked out. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Doesn't seem realistic, but I'll take what the sim gives me! 21: R1P21 QB JOSH ROSEN UCLA27: R1P27 DL MAURICE HURST MICHIGAN53: R2P21 LB ROQUON SMITH GEORGIA58: R2P26 C MASON COLE MICHIGAN96: R3P32 RB JOSH ADAMS NOTRE DAME123: R4P21 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI159: R5P21 G BRADEN SMITH AUBURN161: R5P23 WR BRAXTON BERRIOS MIAMI Quote
The Now Moment Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Doesn't seem realistic, but I'll take what the sim gives me! 21: R1P21 QB JOSH ROSEN UCLA27: R1P27 DL MAURICE HURST MICHIGAN53: R2P21 LB ROQUON SMITH GEORGIA58: R2P26 C MASON COLE MICHIGAN96: R3P32 RB JOSH ADAMS NOTRE DAME123: R4P21 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI159: R5P21 G BRADEN SMITH AUBURN161: R5P23 WR BRAXTON BERRIOS MIAMI That's the problem with the simulators, they are so unrealistic for me it's pointless. Braden Smith is one of the better guards in the country and some have him going as high as the end of the 1st round. The simulators are just horrible but I get the fun in doing them. Quote
Billsfansinceday1 Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Doesn't seem realistic, but I'll take what the sim gives me! 21: R1P21 QB JOSH ROSEN UCLA27: R1P27 DL MAURICE HURST MICHIGAN53: R2P21 LB ROQUON SMITH GEORGIA58: R2P26 C MASON COLE MICHIGAN96: R3P32 RB JOSH ADAMS NOTRE DAME123: R4P21 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI159: R5P21 G BRADEN SMITH AUBURN161: R5P23 WR BRAXTON BERRIOS MIAMI Rosen at #21. Didn’t see that one coming. Count me in! Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 6:21 PM, thunderingsquid said: A Sam Adams, Pat Williams duo? Definitely (or Ted Washington ) On 11/15/2017 at 6:23 PM, the skycap said: Beane will get GM of the year with this mock This person thinks the Bills might still invest in Tyrod??? Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 20 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Doesn't seem realistic, but I'll take what the sim gives me! 21: R1P21 QB JOSH ROSEN UCLA27: R1P27 DL MAURICE HURST MICHIGAN53: R2P21 LB ROQUON SMITH GEORGIA58: R2P26 C MASON COLE MICHIGAN96: R3P32 RB JOSH ADAMS NOTRE DAME123: R4P21 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI159: R5P21 G BRADEN SMITH AUBURN161: R5P23 WR BRAXTON BERRIOS MIAMI Rather take the Olineman higher in the draft. RG & RT are in need of a massive upgrade. Same with LT as cordy has had some really bad games and oft injuries. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Rather take the Olineman higher in the draft. RG & RT are in need of a massive upgrade. Same with LT as cordy has had some really bad games and oft injuries. There were no OL available at 21, 27, or 53 that were worth equal or more than the players I selected. Quote
P51 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Constructive criticism and intelligent conversation appreciated, based on my very informal rankings at this point, based off last weeks draft order, subject to change... 2018 NFL Mock Draft V 1.2 1st Round *Pre-Draft Trade* Cleveland trades the 1st overall pick and the 136th picks in the 2018 draft to the N.Y. Giants for the 3rd and 35th picks in the 2018 draft, and the Giants 1st and 4th round picks in 2019. *Pre-Draft Trade* San Francisco trades the 2nd overall pick to Cleveland for the 3rd, 65th and 120th picks in the 2018 draft and the Giants 4th round pick in 2019. 1 – N.Y. Giants (via. Cleveland) – Sam Darnold (QB – U.S.C.) 2 – Cleveland (via. S.F.) – Josh Rosen (QB – UCLA) 3 – San Francisco (via. Cleveland/N.Y.G.) – Saquan Barkley (RB – Penn. St.) *Trade* Indianapolis trades the 4th pick the N.Y. Jets for the 11th, 43rd and 75th picks in the 2018 draft. 4 – N.Y. Jets (via. Indianapolis) – Ryan Finley (QB – N.C. St.) 5 – Cincinnati – Derwin James (S/CB – F.S.U.) 6 – Denver – Connor Williams (LT/T – Texas) 7 – L.A. Chargers – Lamar Jackson (QB – Louisville) 8 – Cleveland (via. Houston) – Minkah Fitzpatrick (CB/S – Alabama) 9 – Chicago – Bradley Chubb (DE – N.C. St.) 10 – Tampa Bay – Arden Key (DE/OLB/DPR – L.S.U.) 11 – Indianapolis (via. N.Y. Jets) – Quenton Nelson (G – Notre Dame) 12 – Baltimore – James Washington (WR – Ok. St.) 13 – Arizona – Mason Rudolph (QB – Ok. St.) 14 – Oakland – Maurice Hurst (DT – Michigan) 15 – Washington – Baker Mayfield (QB – Oklahoma) 16 – Miami – Harold Landry (OLB/DPR – B.C.) 17 – Dallas – Christian Wilkins (DT – Clemson) 18 – Detroit – Darrius Guice (RB – L.S.U.) 19 – Green Bay – Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (OLB – Oklahoma) 20 – Atlanta – Mike McGlinchey (LT/RT – Notre Dame) 21 – Buffalo – Josh Allen (QB – Wyoming) 22 – Jacksonville – Clayton Thorson (QB – Northwestern) 23 – Seattle – Josh Jackson (CB – Iowa) 24 – Carolina – Orlando Brown (T – Oklahoma) 25 – Tennessee – Clelin Ferrell (DE – Clemson) 26 – Buffalo (via. K.C.) – Roquan Smith (WLB – Georgia) 27 – L.A. Rams – Chukwama Okorafor (LT – Western Michigan) 28 – Minnesota – Ronnie Harrison (SS – Alabama) 29 – Pittsburgh – Denzel Ward (CB – O.S.U.) 30 – New Orleans – Courtland Sutton (WR – S.M.U.) 31 – New England – Trey Adams (LT – Washington) 32 – Philadelphia – Michael Gallup (WR – Colorado St.) 2nd Round 33 – Cleveland – Tarvarus McFadden (CB – F.S.U.) 34 – New England (via. S.F.) – Luke Faulk (QB – Wash. St.) 35 – Cleveland (via. N.Y. Giants) – Martinas Rankin (LT/T – Miss. St.) 36 – Indianapolis – Mark Andrews (TE – Oklahoma) 37 – Denver – Deon Cain (WR – Clemson) 38 – Los Angeles Chargers – Malik Jefferson (ILB/LB – Texas) 39 – Cleveland (via. Houston) – Calvin Ridley (WR – Alabama) 40 – Chicago – Isaiah Oliver (CB – Colorado) 41 – Tampa Bay – Keith Tolliver II (CB – L.S.U.) 42 – Cincinnati – Brain O’Neil (LT/T – Pitt.) 43 – Indianapolis (via . N.Y. Jets) – Rashaad Penny (RB – S.D. St.) 44 – Arizona – Equanimeous St. Brown (WR – Notre Dame) 45 – Oakland – Ronald Jones II (RB – U.S.C.) 46 – Washington – Simmie Cobbs Jr. (WR – Indiana) 47 – Miami – Will Hernandez (G – U.T.E.P) 48 – Baltimore – Damien Harris (RB – Alabama) 49 – Detroit – Dre’Mont Jones (DT – O.S.U.) 50 – Green Bay – Christian Kirk (WR – Texas A&M) 51 – Atlanta – Jordan Whitehead (FS/S – Pitt.) 52 – Dallas – Anthony Miller (WR – Memphis) 53 – Buffalo – Rashaan Evans (ILB/OLB – Alabama) 54 – N.Y. Jets (via. Seattle) – Bryce Love (RB – Stanford) 55 – Jacksonville – Mike Gesicki (TE – Penn. St.) 56 – Carolina – Austin Bryant (DE – Clemson) 57 – Kansas City – Carlton Davis (CB – Auburn) 58 – Tennessee – Justin Reid (FS – Stanford) 59 – Minnesota – Derrick Nnadi (DT – F.S.U.) 60 – Buffalo (via. L.A. Rams) – Da’Ron Payne (DT – Alabama) 61 – San Francisco (via. N.O.) – Arden Tate (WR – F.S.U.) 62 – Pittsburgh – Riley Ferguson (QB – Memphis) 63 – New England – Sam Hubbard (DE – O.S.U.) 64 – Cleveland (via. Philadelphia) – Josh Adams (RB – Notre Dame) Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: There were no OL available at 21, 27, or 53 that were worth equal or more than the players I selected. I think Quenton Nelson would be. Quote
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