thunderingsquid Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 I sure hope so, Watkins101! I watched pretty much the whole game of Washington State vs Oregon this past weekend and man, Falk is such a statue. Reminds me of Bledsoe obviously but I just don't see him lasting long in the NFL with all the hits he will be taking. Oh, and I had a chance to play on there again today, LOL'd at my first two picks: 1: R1P22 WR JAMES WASHINGTON OKLAHOMA STATE 2: R1P32 QB MASON RUDOLPH OKLAHOMA STATE 3: R2P20 DL DERRICK NNADI FLORIDA STATE 4: R2P22 G TAYLOR HEARN CLEMSON 5: R3P22 OT CHUKWUMA OKORAFOR WESTERN MICHIGAN 6: R3P27 S JUSTIN REID STANFORD 7: R4P22 RB KAMRYN PETTWAY AUBURN 8: R5P22 EDGE JOE OSTMAN CENTRAL MICHIGAN Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 @MatthewFairburn Bills are on bye, so I did another 2018 NFL Mock Draft in which the Bills are picking too late for a QB: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/10/2018_nfl_mock_draft_what_if_buffalo_bills_are_picking_too_late_for_a_quarterback.html 26. Buffalo Bills: Auden Tate, WR, Florida State We finally arrive at the Buffalo Bills' first of two first-round selections. Five quarterbacks are off the board, putting the Bills in a tough spot. They desperately need a wide receiver, but could also stand to upgrade at defensive tackle, linebacker and offensive line. At this point, Florida State's Auden Tate makes a ton of sense. The Bills lack a player with Tate's size and physicality who can win at the catch point. Carolina always favored the wide receivers with size, so maybe Buffalo will, too. 32. Buffalo Bills (via Chiefs): Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State The Bills double up on Florida State prospects by taking defensive tackle Derrick Nnadi. Washington State quarterback Luke Falk could certainly be in the mix year, but it's tough to see the Bills landing a top signal caller without moving up in the first round. Instead, Buffalo addresses a need at defensive tackle. Kyle Williams is getting closer to retirement, and Marcell Dareus might not be long for the roster. Derrick Nnadi fits the mold of an experienced, productive player who could step right in and start for the Bills. Haha. This is going to be correct and its such Bills move. Trade Sammy and Dareus and use 1st round picks on their replacements!!! And we can draft a qb in the 4th to battle it out with our 5th round qb. Quote
Watkins101 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Posted October 13, 2017 I had some time to try one. 22: R1P22 DL LOWELL LOTULELEI UTAH 32: R1P32 G MARTEZ IVEY FLORIDA 52: R2P20 WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN NOTRE DAME 54: R2P22 QB LUKE FALK WASHINGTON STATE 86: R3P22 RB MYLES GASKIN WASHINGTON 91: R3P27 LB CAMERON SMITH USC 124: R4P22 LB JASON CABINDA PENN STATE 160: R5P22 WR AUDEN TATE FLORIDA STATE I was estatic with Auden Tate in the fifth, I had thought he was already taken. Unfortunately, I couldnt find an OT I wanted, when I wanted. Quote
thunderingsquid Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I had some time to try one. 22: R1P22 DL LOWELL LOTULELEI UTAH 32: R1P32 G MARTEZ IVEY FLORIDA 52: R2P20 WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN NOTRE DAME 54: R2P22 QB LUKE FALK WASHINGTON STATE 86: R3P22 RB MYLES GASKIN WASHINGTON 91: R3P27 LB CAMERON SMITH USC 124: R4P22 LB JASON CABINDA PENN STATE 160: R5P22 WR AUDEN TATE FLORIDA STATE I was estatic with Auden Tate in the fifth, I had thought he was already taken. Unfortunately, I couldnt find an OT I wanted, when I wanted. Wow, that would be nice! The draft Gods were OK to me today: 1: R1P22 WR CHRISTIAN KIRK TEXAS A&M 2: R1P32 EDGE BRADLEY CHUBB NORTH CAROLINA STATE 3: R2P20 QB LUKE FALK WASHINGTON STATE 4: R2P22 OT GERON CHRISTIAN LOUISVILLE 5: R3P22 G TYRONE CROWDER CLEMSON 6: R3P27 DL REGINALD MCKENZIE TENNESSEE 7: R4P22 S DOMINICK SANDERS GEORGIA 8: R5P22 LB KENNY YOUNG UCLA Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Luke Falk might be as good as Case Keenum. Might. I dont get the love. Quote
thunderingsquid Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Luke Falk might be as good as Case Keenum. Might. I dont get the love. Yes, the similarities to Bledsoe and statues are pretty striking. I'm warming up to the idea of Mayfield, would be a bargain: 1: R1P22 DL VITA VEA WASHINGTON 2: R1P32 QB BAKER MAYFIELD OKLAHOMA 3: R2P22 WR DEON CAIN CLEMSON 4: R2P26 OT JAMARCO JONES OHIO STATE 5: R3P22 G TYRONE CROWDER CLEMSON 6: R3P31 RB MYLES GASKIN WASHINGTON 7: R4P22 CB ANTHONY AVERETT ALABAMA 8: R5P22 EDGE LORENZO CARTER GEORGIA Quote
JohnC Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Yes, the similarities to Bledsoe and statues are pretty striking. I'm warming up to the idea of Mayfield, would be a bargain: 1: R1P22 DL VITA VEA WASHINGTON 2: R1P32 QB BAKER MAYFIELD OKLAHOMA 3: R2P22 WR DEON CAIN CLEMSON 4: R2P26 OT JAMARCO JONES OHIO STATE 5: R3P22 G TYRONE CROWDER CLEMSON 6: R3P31 RB MYLES GASKIN WASHINGTON 7: R4P22 CB ANTHONY AVERETT ALABAMA 8: R5P22 EDGE LORENZO CARTER GEORGIA The qb we select should be taken with our higher first round pick. There are so many teams, including legacy teams such as the Giants, Steeler, Cardinals, Chargers etc, that will need qbs. Why risk losing a qb you prefer by waiting at the risk of another team jumping up ahead of us? Although at this point I am not wedded to any particular qb I like Mayfield a lot. If we wait until the bottom of the first round there is a good chance he will be gone by then. There comes a point where you need to be committed to take action and address the qb position. The history of the Bills is that while it has acted passively on the qb issue other teams have taken the qbs we were considering. Making a mistake because of you are aggressive is less of mistake than making a mistake because you are too passive. Enough is enough! Quote
Blokestradamus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 1: R1P22 DL VITA VEA WASHINGTON 2: R1P32 QB BAKER MAYFIELD OKLAHOMA I swear that I wrote this before you posted this, I just have a forgetful editor http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/19/2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-baker-mayfield-simmie-cobbs-vita-vea/ Edited October 19, 2017 by Blokestradamus Quote
JohnC Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I swear that I wrote this before you posted this, I just have a forgetful editor http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/19/2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-baker-mayfield-simmie-cobbs-vita-vea/ If you make Mayfield the first pick you and I will be riding on the same bus. If you favor another qb and still make him the first selection I will still allow you to stay on the bus with a clean and a pleasantly aromatic bathroom. Why wait and take a risk of losing your preferred qb prospect who surely will also be considered by other teams. The Bills have a surplus of picks giving them flexibility in the draft. We have to make it a priority to solidify the qb position and then move on with building the roster. Let's not mess around and lose out by getting cute in the draft. I would rather the Bills make a mistake on a qb by drafting sooner rather than later and losing out. The Bills have not had a legitimate franchise qb for a quarter center. That is a disgrace and an embarrassment. How many times are we going to lose out by dithering? Enough is enough! Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I swear that I wrote this before you posted this, I just have a forgetful editor http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/19/2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-baker-mayfield-simmie-cobbs-vita-vea/ I would LOVE this draft!! The only thing that I may swap out is Igwebuike for a RB or OL. I think Castillo is the problem with the OL so I may lean RB if they dump that bum. Add a FA OL and you'll be fine. I like Igwebuike's game but once he turned down the Bucks, he became dead to me. Quote
Blokestradamus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 If you make Mayfield the first pick you and I will be riding on the same bus. If you favor another qb and still make him the first selection I will still allow you to stay on the bus with a clean and a pleasantly aromatic bathroom. Why wait and take a risk of losing your preferred qb prospect who surely will also be considered by other teams. The Bills have a surplus of picks giving them flexibility in the draft. We have to make it a priority to solidify the qb position and then move on with building the roster. Let's not mess around and lose out by getting cute in the draft. I would rather the Bills make a mistake on a qb by drafting sooner rather than later and losing out. The Bills have not had a legitimate franchise qb for a quarter center. That is a disgrace and an embarrassment. How many times are we going to lose out by dithering? Enough is enough! We can go Mayfield/Nnadi and get a similar outcome, wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I was using a mixture of 3 different set of rankings and my own early grades, Vea seemed like a clear BPA (I think mid-20's would be an absoloute steal). Remember that it's 6 months out and it's just a concept piece Quote
section122 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I swear that I wrote this before you posted this, I just have a forgetful editor http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/19/2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-baker-mayfield-simmie-cobbs-vita-vea/ Blokes, I love Billswire's content but can anything be done about the slide show layout? Quote
Blokestradamus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I would LOVE this draft!! The only thing that I may swap out is Igwebuike for a RB or OL. I think Castillo is the problem with the OL so I may lean RB if they dump that bum. Add a FA OL and you'll be fine. I like Igwebuike's game but once he turned down the Bucks, he became dead to me. I won't lie, I had you in mind with the Campbell pick. Risk/reward guy but after taking a closer look at him, I think he could develop into something exceptional. If the piece went to a 4th round, the pick was going to be OG Wyatt Teller of VT for now. Like every year, I'm behind on OL because they take so long for me to study. I'm playing a long game with the OL to see if Groy gets any RG reps. If not, I'd happily take a mid-rounder to develop and maybe Shawn Lauvao or Matt Slauson on a two-year deal as a stopgap. Skins fans hate Lauvao but he's been alright this year after some dodgy tape since they signed him. Quote
thebandit27 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 We can go Mayfield/Nnadi and get a similar outcome, wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I was using a mixture of 3 different set of rankings and my own early grades, Vea seemed like a clear BPA (I think mid-20's would be an absoloute steal). Remember that it's 6 months out and it's just a concept piece That's my exact 1st round tandem right now. Come back in round 2 and get a WR like ESB and a MLB like Azeem Victor and I'll be very happy. Quote
Blokestradamus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 Blokes, I love Billswire's content but can anything be done about the slide show layout? I don't like it either but it's basically company policy on anything lengthy. I like reading and writing long form but it seems as though I'm in a decreasing minority. My weekly prospect pieces are usually between 1500-2000 words and I fight to have as few page breaks as possible. Not something that I control unfortunately. Quote
Watkins101 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Posted October 19, 2017 This Mock draft was focusing on building depth on defense, and fixing the offense. 22: R1P22 WR CHRISTIAN KIRK TEXAS A&M 32: R1P32 G MARTEZ IVEY FLORIDA 54: R2P22 QB MASON RUDOLPH OKLAHOMA STATE 58: R2P26 TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA 86: R3P22 S JUSTIN REID STANFORD 95: R3P31 LB DAVIN BELLAMY GEORGIA 124: R4P22 CB CARLTON DAVIS AUBURN 160: R5P22 DL KENDRICK NORTON MIAMI Thoughts? Quote
JohnC Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) We can go Mayfield/Nnadi and get a similar outcome, wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I was using a mixture of 3 different set of rankings and my own early grades, Vea seemed like a clear BPA (I think mid-20's would be an absoloute steal). Remember that it's 6 months out and it's just a concept piece I'm a disciplinarian and trying to get you in step very early in the process so there will be no deviations. On this issue I'm not compromising. If you do things a certain way and consistently fail then the simple solution is to do things differently. It's a simple concept to grasp. You are an independent character who has a tendency to go astray. For your own good I'm going to be hounding you so you toe the line. Edited October 19, 2017 by JohnC Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I won't lie, I had you in mind with the Campbell pick. Risk/reward guy but after taking a closer look at him, I think he could develop into something exceptional. If the piece went to a 4th round, the pick was going to be OG Wyatt Teller of VT for now. Like every year, I'm behind on OL because they take so long for me to study. I'm playing a long game with the OL to see if Groy gets any RG reps. If not, I'd happily take a mid-rounder to develop and maybe Shawn Lauvao or Matt Slauson on a two-year deal as a stopgap. Skins fans hate Lauvao but he's been alright this year after some dodgy tape since they signed him. Ahh, that makes me feel special. I do love Campbell though. He doesn't have great hands and is a little raw but he is really explosive. He outruns angles and has crazy acceleration. Vita Vea is a great player, Mayfield is a lottery ticket, Cobbs is one my draft man crushes and Victor can play. This would be a draft that all Bills fans should love (they won't but they should). Quote
Blokestradamus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 Ahh, that makes me feel special. I do love Campbell though. He doesn't have great hands and is a little raw but he is really explosive. He outruns angles and has crazy acceleration. Vita Vea is a great player, Mayfield is a lottery ticket, Cobbs is one my draft man crushes and Victor can play. This would be a draft that all Bills fans should love (they won't but they should). I got some solid feedback here and on Twitter. Facebook on the other hand, it brought out the crazies. Now that I know Godwin gets under your skin, he's in every mock until April. Loved his play as a junior. Finding out he turned down OSU to get a good education, icing on the cake I'm a disciplinarian and trying to get you in step very early in the process so there will be no deviations. On this issue I'm not compromising. If you do things a certain way and consistently fail then the simple solution is to do things differently. It's a simple concept to grasp. You are an independent character who has a tendency to go astray. For your own good I'm going to be hounding you so you toe the line. How many processes do I have to trust now? Don't trade away all of the talented posters, I beg of you. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I got some solid feedback here and on Twitter. Facebook on the other hand, it brought out the crazies. Now that I know Godwin gets under your skin, he's in every mock until April. Loved his play as a junior. Finding out he turned down OSU to get a good education, icing on the cake Ha ha, the Buckeyes offered him late and he decided to honor his commitment. He's a good player. I really do like him but I can't see a safety that early. In addition, he's kind of a nerd. I never cheer for nerds. I like your logic of making Hyde that chess piece but if he continues at this level of play I'd just assume leave him. You can find a solid 3rd safety in FA for a good price. Quote
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