jrober38 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 More like R1P05 JOSH ALLEN They'll need to move up to #2 to get one of the elite QBs. Good thing they have tons of ammo to get it done. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 They'll need to move up to #2 to get one of the elite QBs. Good thing they have tons of ammo to get it done. If both of the teams with the top two selections have a need at QB, it won't matter how much ammo they'll have. Quote
jrober38 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 If both of the teams with the top two selections have a need at QB, it won't matter how much ammo they'll have. True. I guess I'm hoping a team like LA, Cleveland or Chicago wind up in one of those spots and has enough faith in their existing young QB and wants to trade down. I also won't rule us out from being the 2nd worst team in the NFL this year. I think our offense is going to be just awful. Quote
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I am most decidedly not a Mason Rudolph-in-the-first guy at the moment...obviously my 2017 season evaluations could change that. Right now, my QB board based on offseason work-ups looks like this: 1. Mayfield 2. Rosen 3/4/5. Allen/Darnold/Falk (no separation at the moment) 6. Rudolph Other guys I've reviewed in detail include Browning, Ferguson, McSorely, Thorson, Fitzgerald, Speight, Stanton, Francois, and Littman, but they're all in tier 2 or 3 for me at the moment. I'm looking forward to getting enough video of L. Jackson and J. Stidham to put together an evaluation on them as well. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 True. I guess I'm hoping a team like LA, Cleveland or Chicago wind up in one of those spots and has enough faith in their existing young QB and wants to trade down. I also won't rule us out from being the 2nd worst team in the NFL this year. I think our offense is going to be just awful. The best case scenario IMO is Luck is out for the year, Indy goes like 4-12 and the same thing with Chicago. Both have QB's. If Kizer shows some promise and Cleveland finishes at the bottom....could be another good trade partner. Quote
CommonCents Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I find it hard to imagine the Bills picking 15th. I'm expecting something in the 3-7 overall range, at which point we need to trade up for an elite QB. That's my worst fear, close enough to dump the stock pile of picks and still not get to 1 overall. I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the QB of their choice but just lose the damn games and spare all those picks!!! Quote
jrober38 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) That's my worst fear, close enough to dump the stock pile of picks and still not get to 1 overall. I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the QB of their choice but just lose the damn games and spare all those picks!!! Agreed. If we trade McCoy, I think we're pretty darn close to picking in the top 2. Without him, we'll struggle to score 20 points a game which likely means 12 or more losses. I am most decidedly not a Mason Rudolph-in-the-first guy at the moment...obviously my 2017 season evaluations could change that. Right now, my QB board based on offseason work-ups looks like this: 1. Mayfield 2. Rosen 3/4/5. Allen/Darnold/Falk (no separation at the moment) 6. Rudolph Other guys I've reviewed in detail include Browning, Ferguson, McSorely, Thorson, Fitzgerald, Speight, Stanton, Francois, and Littman, but they're all in tier 2 or 3 for me at the moment. I'm looking forward to getting enough video of L. Jackson and J. Stidham to put together an evaluation on them as well. I don't really see how Mayfield's game translates to the NFL. Seems like the latest example of good college spread QB but not a very good NFL QB. That Oklahoma offense teaches players next to nothing about how to run an NFL offense. I like his fire as a competitor, but I don't think the NFL will collectively view a 6'1, spread QB as the best QB prospect in the draft. Darnold, Allen and Rosen should be the top 3 guys. They've all god the size, arm, accuracy and experience under centre to be projected as long term NFL starters. I personally think Allen is the best fit for what we need long term as a franchise QB who we can build an offense around for years to come. Edited August 31, 2017 by jrober38 Quote
indiragandhi'sthong Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I prefer Mason Storm. He's bulked up nicely and we could use an extra OG. Really like Mason Rudolph and feel like he will be the QB that starts climbing draft boards when the season starts. Also really like James Washington but feel like round three is a little low for him. As it stands right now, and its early, I'd expect him to go late round one. I'd say the same for Chubb who is currently considered as a 1st round pick. Otherwise this looks good to me. Quote
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Agreed. If we trade McCoy, I think we're pretty darn close to picking in the top 2. Without him, we'll struggle to score 20 points a game which likely means 12 or more losses. I don't really see how Mayfield's game translates to the NFL. Seems like the latest example of good college spread QB but not a very good NFL QB. That Oklahoma offense teaches players next to nothing about how to run an NFL offense. I like his fire as a competitor, but I don't think the NFL will collectively view a 6'1, spread QB as the best QB prospect in the draft. Darnold, Allen and Rosen should be the top 3 guys. They've all god the size, arm, accuracy and experience under centre to be projected as long term NFL starters. I personally think Allen is the best fit for what we need long term as a franchise QB who we can build an offense around for years to come. That could end up being the case. Right now, I like that Mayfield is athletic, can make plays, and pushes the ball down the field. I also value that he seems to be able to speed up his snap-to-release when he needs to. If I'm guessing, he'll probably drop below whichever of the 3 you've mentioned can further develop their accuracy and snap-to-release time, since they all have the measurables to win out if all else is equal. For now, I'm not willing to mix in potential into my evaluation since so much can change in the next 4 months, and so Mayfield gets the top spot. FWIW, going into 2016 I had Mahomes as my top QB, and I kept him there right on through the draft, though I conceded that I was sure Trubisky would go before him because his game probably translated to the NFL more smoothly. Quote
JaCrispy Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 True. I guess I'm hoping a team like LA, Cleveland or Chicago wind up in one of those spots and has enough faith in their existing young QB and wants to trade down. I also won't rule us out from being the 2nd worst team in the NFL this year. I think our offense is going to be just awful. There is a good chance the Colts end up with the top pick if Luck's injury is worse than originally expected. Quote
Mikie's Bills Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Rudolph hasn't impressed me in the games I've watched of him so far. Would prefer Allen over him at this point. Quote
JaCrispy Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 That's my worst fear, close enough to dump the stock pile of picks and still not get to 1 overall. I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the QB of their choice but just lose the damn games and spare all those picks!!! it would certainly help to quicken the rebuild... Quote
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 If both of the teams with the top two selections have a need at QB, it won't matter how much ammo they'll have. Bingo, we either go 3-13 or we have no shot at whoever the top 2 qbs are Quote
thunderingsquid Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 No tackle? That's exactly what I said. I like this thread though, I've already abandoned all hope for 2017 so let's stretch this out to a 100+ page thread, my brothers and sisters! Quote
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 That's exactly what I said. I like this thread though, I've already abandoned all hope for 2017 so let's stretch this out to a 100+ page thread, my brothers and sisters! 1000 Quote
thunderingsquid Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 1000 Let's make it happen. I'm pretty happy about this one. I'm a big fan of Fanspeak. I think Sutton will be an absolute beast. 15: R1P15 QB JOSH ALLEN WYOMING 27: R1P27 OT TYRELL CROSBY OREGON 35: R2P3 WR COURTLAND SUTTON SMU 47: R2P15 G MARTEZ IVEY FLORIDA 71: R3P7 DL TRENTON THOMPSON GEORGIA 79: R3P15 S DONNIE MILES NORTH CAROLINA Quote
Watkins101 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Posted August 31, 2017 There is not one chance that the Bills will pick at 15. I mean none whatsoever. Thanks for the effort but why not do one with the Bills drafting a #5. It was in a mock draft simulator, so I had no choice on the matter. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 @sportingnews .@OptimumScouting evaluated over 4,000 players in college football, and these are the top players at each position. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/list/nfl-draft-2018-mock-big-board-top-players-by-position/rmk944mkglx010j3tkravx574 2:21 PM - 1 Sep 2017 Quote
thunderingsquid Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 What do we know about Mike White - Western Kentucky? Is Blokes around? Quote
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