JohnC Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 I'm assuming and hoping that the Bills use their first pick on a qb. After that I think that the wrestling coach will be more inclined to address the defense, line and LBs, before using a high pick on a receiver. Another receiver can be added to the mix through free agency. The biggest question for this team is how many draft assets is the franchise going to use to select a qb. If the Bills are able to get a qb of their choice without using many assets then there are so many more options with our draft strategy. Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 On 12/3/2017 at 1:24 PM, Kirby Jackson said: That’s actually a pretty good comparison. Harvin was a little thicker but they both outrun angles. The Bills need some playmaking. Last year Beane took McCaffrey and Samuel who are both comparable. I actually think Campbell is a little more explosive than both of them (but a little less polished). Oh god no then. Percy Harvin is one of the most overrated NFL players of the 21st century. For most of his career he just wasn't very..... well.... you know..... good. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Oh god no then. Percy Harvin is one of the most overrated NFL players of the 21st century. For most of his career he just wasn't very..... well.... you know..... good. Percy Harvin at Florida Quote
thunderingsquid Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 It's sad that I can't wait for April now. 17: R1P17 EDGE ARDEN KEY LSU 25: R1P25 QB DREW LOCK MISSOURI 49: R2P17 G BILLY PRICE OHIO STATE 60: R2P28 DL TAVEN BRYAN FLORIDA 93: R3P29 RB JOSH ADAMS NOTRE DAME 119: R4P17 OT TIMON PARRIS STONY BROOK 155: R5P17 WR DANTE PETTIS WASHINGTON 162: R5P24 S VAN SMITH CLEMSON Quote
Woodman19 Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 3 QB's went off the board in the top 4 and nothing else was worth taking without being an overreach. 17: R1P17 EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT CLEMSON 25: R1P25 WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA 49: R2P17 LB MALIK JEFFERSON TEXAS 60: R2P28 RB NICK CHUBB GEORGIA 93: R3P29 C MASON COLE MICHIGAN 119: R4P17 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI (FL) 155: R5P17 OT DAVID BRIGHT STANFORD 162: R5P24 DL JERRY TILLERY NOTRE DAME 1 Quote
Billsfansinceday1 Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Woodman19 said: 3 QB's went off the board in the top 4 and nothing else was worth taking without being an overreach. 17: R1P17 EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT CLEMSON 25: R1P25 WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA 49: R2P17 LB MALIK JEFFERSON TEXAS 60: R2P28 RB NICK CHUBB GEORGIA 93: R3P29 C MASON COLE MICHIGAN 119: R4P17 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI (FL) 155: R5P17 OT DAVID BRIGHT STANFORD 162: R5P24 DL JERRY TILLERY NOTRE DAME Can any of these guys throw a football? 1 Quote
Woodman19 Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Billsfansinceday1 said: Can any of these guys throw a football? Nope, I would have traded up for one if I could have 1 Quote
Woodman19 Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 My mock was difficult because the Sim was gobbling up all QB's and skill positions so I had to dig deep to take the best raw upside in positions of need in less sexy parts. Bryant: Very high upside big run stopper for the D-Line Ridley: (my best pick IMO) gets you a speed receiver with great route discipline and toughness but average size. Jefferson: raw athletic coverage LB that we so badly need. Chubb: wasn't looking RB here but couldn't let him pass. 3 down all purpose back. Would give you a 2 headed monster and heir for McCoy once he is gone. Cole: versatile, good technique OL. Can play anywhere in the middle (Wood replacement?) And a good pass blocker. Thomas:. Piece of athletic clay for McDermott to mould into a gem. Great raw tools and size, boom or bust raw talent. Bright: good run blocking tackle who needs to add weight, I think he could be a dominant guard especially next to someone like Cole. Tillery: Big, strong DT with good penetration. Adds depth to line. I should note that I would have taken Mike White if we keep our 7th, basically another Peterman type smart accurate QB with questions on arm strength. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 17: R1P17 QB MASON RUDOLPH OKLAHOMA STATE 25: R1P25 WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA 49: R2P17 G ISAIAH WYNN GEORGIA 60: R2P28 DL DA'RON PAYNE ALABAMA 93: R3P29 LB OREN BURKS VANDERBILT 119: R4P17 RB RASHAAD PENNY SAN DIEGO STATE 155: R5P17 EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI 162: R5P24 S DOMINICK SANDERS GEORGIA 1 Quote
thunderingsquid Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 That's a beaut, Hokie. I'm telling you, these 4 picks in the first 2 rounds may reshape our franchise for years. There are so many good players in the first two rounds, if we play our cards right we can have impactful starters for years. Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, thunderingsquid said: That's a beaut, Hokie. I'm telling you, these 4 picks in the first 2 rounds may reshape our franchise for years. There are so many good players in the first two rounds, if we play our cards right we can have impactful starters for years. I actually think ILB might be right up there with QB for our FO's wish list. Something tells me McD really misses having Keuchly as the QB of his D. Would not be surprised at all if Roquon Smith, Micah Kiser, or Oren Burks are major targets. Kiser is especially intriguing. As for later round options, maybe Kendall Joseph from Clemson. Edited December 7, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 2 Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 Round 1, Pick No. 17: QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State 25. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Maurice Hurst | DL | Michigan Round 2, Pick No. 49: LB Tegray Scales, Indiana Round 2, Pick No. 60 (from LAR): WR Anthony Miller, Memphis Round 3, Pick No. 93 (from PHI): CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina Round 4, Pick No. 113: RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama 1 Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Round 1, Pick No. 17: QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State 25. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Maurice Hurst | DL | Michigan Round 2, Pick No. 49: LB Tegray Scales, Indiana Round 2, Pick No. 60 (from LAR): WR Anthony Miller, Memphis Round 3, Pick No. 93 (from PHI): CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina Round 4, Pick No. 113: RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama I like 2 of the 5... Rudolph & Miller. Although I think it's a bit too high for Rudolph, but don't risk it with QB. I don't mind Mo Hurst, but I think he's smaller than McD likes his DTs I need to watch more film on Scales, but he's not my preference at 49 at the moment Quote
Woodman19 Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Round 1, Pick No. 17: QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State 25. Buffalo Bills (from KC) | Maurice Hurst | DL | Michigan Round 2, Pick No. 49: LB Tegray Scales, Indiana Round 2, Pick No. 60 (from LAR): WR Anthony Miller, Memphis Round 3, Pick No. 93 (from PHI): CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina Round 4, Pick No. 113: RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama Yes, you get a toolsy QB prospect, some help on the DL and LB and some skill players that are badly needed for depth. Quote
thunderingsquid Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 I finally found my best case scenario draft: 17: R1P17 G QUENTON NELSON NOTRE DAME 25: R1P25 EDGE ARDEN KEY LSU 49: R2P17 QB MASON RUDOLPH OKLAHOMA STATE 60: R2P28 DL DA'RON PAYNE ALABAMA 93: R3P29 OT GERON CHRISTIAN LOUISVILLE 119: R4P17 WR ANTONIO CALLAWAY FLORIDA 155: R5P17 LB DAVIN BELLAMY GEORGIA 162: R5P24 RB AKRUM WADLEY IOWA Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 Who's going to be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft? (4:12) Mike Greenberg, Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay weigh in on which college QBs will top the draft boards in 2018. Quote
JohnC Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Who's going to be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft? (4:12) When qbs are discussed about this draft class I've come to the harden conclusion that there is no excuse for this failed organization not to make an aggressive move to come away with their future franchise qb. Even if our most preferred qb or two are not available that doesn't mean that this regime still can't secure a quality option. If the McBeane duo take the Levy/Jauron conservative approach to the draft they will deservedly be scorned. 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 19 hours ago, JohnC said: When qbs are discussed about this draft class I've come to the harden conclusion that there is no excuse for this failed organization not to make an aggressive move to come away with their future franchise qb. Even if our most preferred qb or two are not available that doesn't mean that this regime still can't secure a quality option. If the McBeane duo take the Levy/Jauron conservative approach to the draft they will deservedly be scorned. There has to be a quality option to take or there is a reason not to take a QB. Just because we want to believe that this is a deep and talented QB class, does not necessarily make it so. if none of Rosen, Darnold, Jackson or Mayfield are available, I think we may be out of luck and have to take a desperation shot on someone else later in the draft. Quote
JohnC Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: There has to be a quality option to take or there is a reason not to take a QB. Just because we want to believe that this is a deep and talented QB class, does not necessarily make it so. if none of Rosen, Darnold, Jackson or Mayfield are available, I think we may be out of luck and have to take a desperation shot on someone else later in the draft. The Bills have more high draft picks to parlay than most teams. This draft class has more qbs that will probably be taken in the first round than most years. This team has been stuck in the middle with a 7-9 to 9-7 during its ignominious drought that has lasted for more than a generation. I'm not advocating for a stupid reach on a prospect that will have little chance to succeed. The Bills have the wherewithal and they need to use it to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. This year, I'm not accepting excuses. Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, JohnC said: The Bills have more high draft picks to parlay than most teams. This draft class has more qbs that will probably be taken in the first round than most years. This team has been stuck in the middle with a 7-9 to 9-7 during its ignominious drought that has lasted for more than a generation. I'm not advocating for a stupid reach on a prospect that will have little chance to succeed. The Bills have the wherewithal and they need to use it to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. This year, I'm not accepting excuses. They do have extra pick in rounds 1&2. Let's say that they end up with the 15th and 20th picks in round 1 - (could end up higher or lower depending how they and KC finish. In an average year those picks might get you one pick in the top 5 - if you can find a trade partner. But, given the perception that this is a strong QB class, teams at the top may want to stay there and pick a QB themselves and other teams wanting to trade up will inflate the price to move up. Quote
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