GG Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Sammy Watkins - 4.43 Zay Jones - 4.45 Jordan Matthews - 4.46 I feel like either all or none of them are deep threats. it's not the speed, but winning the 1 on 1 matchup vs the CB to create the separation in the first place
Buffalo716 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I get whats youre saying but its not the same when the pads come on. Some WRs playing speed differs from their 40 time. Exactly Sammys 4.43 is actually slow for him He plays like he runs a 4.3. When you look at Jones college tape it doesn't scream 4.45 fourty. He is no where near as fast as Sammy in pads on the field. Doesn't mean he won't be productive but I don't see him as having as many big plays Matthews can go deep as well. He's big
thunderingsquid Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 But you have to stretch the field. Speed does help, especially for Tyrod who's main outlet is a WR streaking down the sideline. Here are the OP's WR's 40 times per combine at NFL.com: Kearse 4.58 , Inmann 4.47 Dorsett 4.33 Shorts 4.59
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Sammy Watkins - 4.43 Zay Jones - 4.45 Jordan Matthews - 4.46 I feel like either all or none of them are deep threats. There you go again posting forty times in shorts as the key to being a deep threat in pads against actual coverage in games.
Marty McFly Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Exactly Sammys 4.43 is actually slow for him He plays like he runs a 4.3. When you look at Jones college tape it doesn't scream 4.45 fourty. He is no where near as fast as Sammy in pads on the field. Doesn't mean he won't be productive but I don't see him as having as many big plays Matthews can go deep as well. He's big There you go again posting forty times in shorts as the key to being a deep threat in pads against actual coverage in games. I learned this in middle school when i was really fast but lost a lot of speed in pads cuz i had no leg muscles yet this and my height effectively left all my football dreams to Madden franchises I eventually became a successful reefer delivery engineer but it wasnt easy :lol:
DasNootz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I was on board with trading Ragland for Dorsett. If we get him of the scrap heap and get a future 4th for Ragland, I'd be happyish....
Marty McFly Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 But you have to stretch the field. Speed does help, especially for Tyrod who's main outlet is a WR streaking down the sideline. Here are the OP's WR's 40 times per combine at NFL.com: Kearse 4.58 , Inmann 4.47 Dorsett 4.33 Shorts 4.59 I havent seen the others play but i know kearse plays quicker, he usually gets open down field.
Buffalo716 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I learned this in middle school when i was really fast but lost a lot of speed in pads cuz i had no leg muscles yet this and my height effectively left all my football dreams to Madden franchises I eventually became a successful reefer delivery engineer but it wasnt easy :lol: Hahahahahah I'm blessed because I never lost that much speed when I strapped up the pads. I think i just conditioned my body because I played tackle football since I was 5. I didn't have to adjust
RyanC883 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 None of the guys who end up being cut will know the Bills' offense, and none will help the team. The best you're looking for is a 14 catch td specialist like Justin Hunter. he is likely going to be cut from the Steelers. He is a poor mans Bryant
ROONDOGG55 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I'd love to see us add a speedster, whether it is Dorsett or another guy, we desperately need some speed on returns and for our play-action passing game. I know that Zay and a few others have straight line speed, but we need a guy that can has good stop-n-go speed (i.e. quickness and acceleration).
Marty McFly Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Hahahahahah I'm blessed because I never lost that much speed when I strapped up the pads. I think i just conditioned my body because I played tackle football since I was 5. I didn't have to adjust Damn you and your 5 yr old workout routines!
Buffalo716 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Damn you and your 5 yr old workout routines! And I played in the hood... so I had incentives to run fast
Marty McFly Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 And I played in the hood... so I had incentives to run fast Playing in the hoods easy tho. I remember in highschool it was the rich towns with 3 towns meshed in one highschool program and prepschools we had to watch out for, cuz they fielded a million oversized white people looking like they came out of a super soldier program. Sht was unreal.
ROONDOGG55 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Playing in the hoods easy tho. I remember in highschool it was the rich towns with 3 towns meshed in one highschool program and prepschools we had to watch out for, cuz they fielded a million oversized white people looking like they came out of a super soldier program. Sht was unreal. LMFAO!! This is the truth!
Dopey Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Hahahahahah I'm blessed because I never lost that much speed when I strapped up the pads. I think i just conditioned my body because I played tackle football since I was 5. I didn't have to adjust Oh, ok. I thought it was because you weren't that fast to begin with.
Buffalo716 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Playing in the hoods easy tho. I remember in highschool it was the rich towns with 3 towns meshed in one highschool program and prepschools we had to watch out for, cuz they fielded a million oversized white people looking like they came out of a super soldier program. Sht was unreal. For sure schools like Orchard Park in WNY are always great. It's such a large district But when a team like South Park in Buffalo all graduate and play 6 years together they are also phenomenal and rare
Marty McFly Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 For sure schools like Orchard Park in WNY are always great. It's such a large district But when a team like South Park in Buffalo all graduate and play 6 years together they are also phenomenal and rare Are they? I moved from buf to jersey in mid 90s so i wouldnt know. Jus a lot of hoods, small towns, and private/rich/regional prep schools a couple towns away from each other squashing us in sports put here, consistently.
CommonCents Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I know Kearse was mentioned in this thread I just read that the Hawks are listening to offers on Jeremy Lane. That would be the fit, if they are trying to win now of course.
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I know Kearse was mentioned in this thread I just read that the Hawks are listening to offers on Jeremy Lane. That would be the fit, if they are trying to win now of course.i agree - why are they looking to move him though?
CommonCents Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) i agree - why are they looking to move him though?Just read it on NFL.com it was one of the top headlines. I guess they have a rookie corner who is over achieving. Also made mention of my boy Carson pushing Alex Collins on the block. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000837344/article/seahawks-hearing-offers-for-lane-kearse-collins Edited August 31, 2017 by Commonsense
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