Steptide Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I am having some major nightmares about this game on Sunday. I distinctly remember getting crushed in the sweet 16 by Michigan State in Detroit in 2000. I think that was the year where Mo Pete and Mateen Cleaves took them to the title. They shot like over 70% from the field against our zone. I'm actually expecting a loss tomorrow. I was realistically expecting a loss last night, but Syracuse played much better than they did Wednesday. If by some miracle they win, it'd be pretty impressive for a team that has looked absolutely horrendous at times
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Steptide said: I'm actually expecting a loss tomorrow. I was realistically expecting a loss last night, but Syracuse played much better than they did Wednesday. If by some miracle they win, it'd be pretty impressive for a team that has looked absolutely horrendous at times I don't think anybody is expecting a Syracuse win outside of the players in the locker room but Syracuse has 2 Freshmen in Brissett and Dolezaj that are peaking at the right time , combine that with hopefully a hot Tyus Battle and a upperclassmen in Howard and maybe they make it a dog fight its still syracuse 1
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, CowgirlsFan said: I'd love him as a Dallas Maverick. Haha— you’re looking at him like Dirk 2.0!!
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Haha— you’re looking at him like Dirk 2.0!! Lmao that's what I thought lol if only Dolezaj was 7'0 like Dirk! you gotta admit JR that Doles jumper has REALLY improved great form and touch
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Lmao that's what I thought lol if only Dolezaj was 7'0 like Dirk! you gotta admit JR that Doles jumper has REALLY improved great form and touch Absolutely. I can totally see him over over the next 2 years developing a great jumper and even a little post game. Plus, you know he is going to put on at least 20-30 pounds of pure muscle with their training program. He could end up being one of the most beloved and improved players to come through that program. but I doubt he will ever be like Dirk!!
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Absolutely. I can totally see him over over the next 2 years developing a great jumper and even a little post game. Plus, you know he is going to put on at least 20-30 pounds of pure muscle with their training program. He could end up being one of the most beloved and improved players to come through that program. but I doubt he will ever be like Dirk!! Yea I don't think Dirk is possible... but Dirk is seriously underrated IMO... best European of all time Hes already endeared himself to me lol I think Doles is gonna be amazing for 3 more years and I can see himself being drafted in the second as a stretch forward not to mention he will bulk up and he already attacks the rim well for a skinny guy just love his game... great get by Boeheim
Greybeard Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: There are tons and tons of great college programs that don't even put talent to the NBA... who is the last Virginia Cavalier to be good in the NBA? ( brogden) Or Villanova? Once they get to the pros it's all up to the kid... but Boeheim has developed sooo many first round talents Dion Waiters couldn't score in college? What about Wes Johnson? Lawrence Moten, Hakeem Warrick, Jonny Flynn, Tyler Lydon, Malachi Richardson, Derrrick Coleman, pearl Washington ... they have had first round picks for 6 straight years, and they are all scorers ... they aren't getting drafted cus their defense Heck Tyus Battle is going to a first round pick eventually and he is a pure slasher / scorer There "are" tons of great college programs that don't put talent in the NBA. What does that have to do with Barkley's statement. He is saying if they practice against one on one every day they would be better against it. The same argument could be made by saying a team that practices against the zone every day would be better against it. One of the reasons why the zone is so successful. Besides the fact SU takes it to a different level. If you don't think that practicing against a certain defense makes you better against it, I have to wonder what all these coaching are doing. And that goes for any sport.
Buffalo716 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Greybeard said: There "are" tons of great college programs that don't put talent in the NBA. What does that have to do with Barkley's statement. He is saying if they practice against one on one every day they would be better against it. The same argument could be made by saying a team that practices against the zone every day would be better against it. One of the reasons why the zone is so successful. Besides the fact SU takes it to a different level. If you don't think that practicing against a certain defense makes you better against it, I have to wonder what all these coaching are doing. And that goes for any sport. He also said that Syracuse has only had 1 scorer in their history... Melo, and hasn't had any since ... that's what I was referring too thats what my rant was about... Cuse has had plenty of scorers i understand his anecdote about the zone
Greybeard Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Here is a link to an article at the Syracuse Post Standard about the zone D. Since it was a topic here, I thought Syr fans that are out of town would find it entertaining. http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2018/03/syracuse_basketballs_magical_mystical_zone_defense_in_the_ncaa_tournament_it_wor.html Edited March 18, 2018 by Greybeard
The Poojer Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 This is a great match up historically. We need the big 3 plus marek's game from the other night if we want to win. LET'S GO ORANGE!!!
Augie Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Crazy shot ? No kidding! The last 2 seconds of the first half was all-time crazy stuff! One for the ages.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Unbelievable win. Syracuse is making this tournament unwatchable but I will take it!! I have a feeling JB has some tricks up his sleeve for Duke with the zone. 3
The Poojer Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Holy crap. I'm sorry but Bayer had 2 very big plays at the end that were instrumental in preserving that lead. Wow, wow, wow
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Who doesn't belong!?! I never thought I would have to defend Syracuse basketball as a legitimate program Its ******* Syracuse!
section122 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Best comment I saw on reddit: Syracuse is like if the monstars took opponents power's and threw them in the trash instead of absorbing them. That's the best description of them I've heard lol 2
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Poojer said: Holy crap. I'm sorry but Bayer had 2 very big plays at the end that were instrumental in preserving that lead. Wow, wow, wow Bayer had two jump balls— both critical. By the way, the fouls that Michigan State got away with on those inbounds “turnovers” late were comical. Battle got his entire arm slapped on that one where they replayed it.
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Bayer had two jump balls— both critical. By the way, the fouls that Michigan State got away with on those inbounds “turnovers” late were comical. Battle got his entire arm slapped on that one where they replayed it. That was like the longest 10-12 seconds ever lol i was screaming when Battle was getting mugged
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