Jasovon Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 We are fantastic at drafting and then trading linebackers in their sophomore year.
HappyDays Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Some people need to learn about sunk costs..... Ragland doesn't fit in today's NFL as a passing down player, to get a 4th round pick for him is pretty solid work. Yep sunk cost fallacy comes up all the time, thankfully our current regime understands it very well. Good to see.
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Trading RR is not a surprise. Getting very little in return is surprising. Beane seems under-value our assets. A 4th rounder in 2019 equals a 5th rounder next year. RR was worth more than that! Trading doesn't seem to be Beane's strength. He's unproven coming off a major injury so his value is not high
Bangarang Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 This is why we are the Bills and haven't made the playoffs in almost 2 decades.
HappyDays Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Are there any fans still that are optimistic about this year. Were moving up the 2018 draft charts daily. LOL How many more games do you think we will lose as a result of our 3rd-string MLB being traded? I'm thinking 16.
Bookie Man Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Could also be leverage to move up for the 18 draft
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 But in the meantime let's complain about everything and expect the worst because that's why we watch football, amirite? because the worst is what we always get
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2017 Author Posted August 28, 2017 This is why we are the Bills and haven't made the playoffs in almost 2 decades. Nope because the have traditionally undervalued a QB and over value other positions
klos63 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I have no idea what's going on but apparently you can win the Super Bowl with future draft picks. But we end up trading those players after 1 or 2 seasons.
njbuff Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Why are you folks complaining? Ragland was on the verge of being flat out cut and the Bills turned around and got something for a player they had no use for. What is apparent though is that the Pegula's are going to have to ride this thing out with the MCBeane duo. They really have no choice. It's great to acquire all this draft capital, it's even better to find contributing players from it.
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2017 Author Posted August 28, 2017 Now Trade Holmes. That gets you two picks the pick in the trade and the comp pick
dwight in philly Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Hard to get much more than that for a guy coming off an ACL tear yep.. they were going to probably cut him , so i guess its better than nothing.. maybe they should have kept quiet about his lack of productivity.
KellyToughII Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Fire sale! So getting rid of guy picked by Rex freaking Ryan to fit a specific role on a specific Defense we don't have anymore is a fire sale? Jesus folks...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I just hope he doesn't make KC any better. We need them to lose a lot this season.
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Why are you folks complaining? Ragland was on the verge of being flat out cut and the Bills turned around and got something for a player they had no use for. What is apparent though is that the Pegula's are going to have to ride this thing out with the MCBeane duo. They really have no choice. It's great to acquire all this draft capital, it's even better to find contributing players from it. They didn't with Murray and Bylsma with the Sabres.
BillsFan4 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Trading RR is not a surprise. Getting very little in return is surprising. Beane seems under-value our assets. A 4th rounder in 2019 equals a 5th rounder next year. RR was worth more than that! Trading doesn't seem to be Beane's strength. Huh. I actually think it's pretty impressive that he got a 4th for a guy coming off a major knee injury that probably won't be fully healthy until next season. We don't know what the conditions of the pick are yet, though. Maybe the pick moves up a round if Ragland does well, or maybe the pick is conditional on him making the team... I also think it was amazing to get Anything for Cardale! Even if te only a 7th. He's a practice squad QB at best. And getting a 3rd plus Matthews (who was drafted in the 2nd in the strongest WR draft class in a Long time), for a guy drafted in the 2nd was also great value IMO. I'd have liked a 1st for Sammy, but with his injury history and being a free agent at year's end it just wasn't realistic. But I think Beane has traded pretty well so far, as far as value goes.
Alphadawg7 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 This makes sense, his knee was still holding him back and wasn't drafted to fit McD and KC is a great fit for his style. Not really surprised at all by this, I knew there was no way we were going to cut him for nothing. I think the value we got is fair considering he's coming off a big injury and its still hindering him. If he becomes a quality starter there or better, than maybe we didn't get enough, but considering he's still an unknown quantity having never played yet and still recovering from his season ending injury I think this was about right.
BobbyC81 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Horrible return. As with Watkins, couldn't they have waited for him to show he's healthy? I guess this follows the philosophy of running a team without considering what round a player was drafted in, which is good from the standpoint of not giving guys starting positions when they don't deserve them just because they were high picks.
PolishDave Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 What is apparent though is that the Pegula's are going to have to ride this thing out with the MCBeane duo. They really have no choice. It's great to acquire all this draft capital, it's even better to find contributing players from it. Huh?
stevewin Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Exactly, this is an absolute joke. Let the guy have this season to get up to speed & see what you have in him next year. To give him away after we traded up for him less than 2 years ago it just makes the Bills look dumb. This is what I would have preferred. Keep him as 3rd string/STer initially - see if he improves over the course of the season and improves his trade value, even if he isn't a perfect fit
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