Alphadawg7 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Lost 2nd last year, plus Dak Except you don't know that we lost Dak so there is that too.
Chuck Wagon Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Some people need to learn about sunk costs..... Ragland doesn't fit in today's NFL as a passing down player, to get a 4th round pick for him is pretty solid work.
bisonbrigade Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Trade Dareus for a conditional 2027 pick. LOL
turftoe Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Trading RR is not a surprise. Getting very little in return is surprising. Beane seems under-value our assets. A 4th rounder in 2019 equals a 5th rounder next year. RR was worth more than that! Trading doesn't seem to be Beane's strength.
BillsFan4 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 It's actually a favor to Ragland too, if you think about it. From all accounts, this kid was working his tail off to fit in this 4-3 but it just wasn't working out for him and it really seemed to bother him (from what I read/heard). Now this gives him a chance to catch on in a scheme that he fits in much better. Should give his confidence level a shot in the arm too. He should have a much better idea of how to run KC's scheme.
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2017 Author Posted August 28, 2017 Some people need to learn about sunk costs..... Ragland doesn't fit in today's NFL as a passing down player, to get a 4th round pick for him is pretty solid work. Yep. Personally would have liked a player for player BUT this is a good trade.
Jauronimo Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 so we should try no plan since other plans failed? Maybe we shouldn't draft players since players in the past have been busts. No one said anything of the sort. The existence of a plan does not mean said plan is a good one. People are relieved to see a plan and vision. I'll be relieved when/if the results don't suck this time around. I've watched more than a few plans unfold.
H2o Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 i agree with this. I picture Rex standing over a perspiring Whaley as Ragland drops to the 2nd round, threatening to out him for his online "viewing activity" at the office if he doesn't trade up for his guy. ......... Seriously though, I believe Rex viewed Ragland as his David Harris in our defense.
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2017 Author Posted August 28, 2017 Trading RR is not a surprise. Getting very little in return is surprising. Beane seems under-value our assets. A 4th rounder in 2019 equals a 5th rounder next year. RR was worth more than that! Trading doesn't seem to be Beane's strength. Really how was he worth more? 2017 NFL = passing league RR a two down thumper Coming off acl
bisonbrigade Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Are there any fans still that are optimistic about this year. Were moving up the 2018 draft charts daily. LOL
r00tabaga Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 GOOD trade imo... a 4th for a 3rd string MLB.
Big Turk Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 not a surprise obviously.. but didnt get much for him. IMHO Hard to get much more than that for a guy coming off an ACL tear
North Buffalo Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Disappointed, liked Ragland, not enough but probably what best Bills could get at this point... so Billsy
GoBills808 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 No one said anything of the sort. The existence of a plan does not mean said plan is a good one. People are relieved to see a plan and vision. I'll be relieved when/if the results don't suck this time around. I've watched more than a few plans unfold. But in the meantime let's complain about everything and expect the worst because that's why we watch football, amirite?
BigPappy Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Might as well trade him if you can get something for him, especially since he was "fighting for a roster spot" as McD has been quoted as saying. If there was a good chance of cutting him, best to trade him and get something for him.
Wayne Arnold Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Exactly right. Why people are saying Whaley made mistakes and not factoring in that he had to manage this landscape is beyond me. We are factoring that in. And yet he still stinks.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 To KC for a 2019 4th round pick. A 2019 4th rounder? LMAO.
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Works for me. I'd take Darnold over 100 Raglands. well, the roster limit is 53 so......
KOKBILLS Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Exactly, this is an absolute joke. Let the guy have this season to get up to speed & see what you have in him next year. To give him away after we traded up for him less than 2 years ago it just makes the Bills look dumb. None of the current decision makers had anything to do with that pick, or that trade up... And a LOT of people feel what made the Bills look dumb was to give up two 4th round picks to trade up for a 2-down, 3-4, ILB...Then they switch back to the 4-3 and he's not really a fit at all... To boot, that same ILB is coming off a major knee injury and was not going to play...Nothing against Ragland...it was to be expected he would not be back to full speed for a while... How is this dumb again?...
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