Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 My feeling is that the McBean combo is hell bent on taking us back to 2001... What a dumpster fire that was. Sent from my LGLS992 using Tapatalk I think McBean wants what Marv/Levy wanted. Safe, lunch pail guys who try to squeak games out with field position and lucky bounces. Waiting for the other team to make a mistake.
Heavy Kevi Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 So getting rid of guy picked by Rex freaking Ryan to fit a specific role on a specific Defense we don't have anymore is a fire sale? Jesus folks... So trading away Darby, Watkins, and Ragland for significantly less than their value isn't a fire sale? Fore Sale - a selling of remaining goods or assets for a very low price. Don't try to paint me as some sort of alertist, Jesus Kellytough...
K D Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Haha a 4th in 2 years? That's equivalent to like a 5th or 6th this year. Yikes
Fan boy '92 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 And this is why regime change sets you back a number of years. He was clearly a ridiculous fit for our 4-3 defense. Gteat for Rex's though! Good amount of currency in the exchange though.
Jauronimo Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Each of your posts in this thread is a snarky half-point. Not sure you're in a position to crown yourself discourse king. correct. their failures to build a winner resulted in their terminations. Were Darby, Watkins, and Ragland expected to build the team into a winner in a 2 year time frame? Snarky half-points would be a major improvement on whatever you call that.
BringBackOrton Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 This can't be true! 26CB told us there's no way they trade Ragland, he's a promising second year player coming off injury. He's not having any problems in this defense, at all. Of course, this was right after there was no way Watkins got traded. And before that, there was no way Shaq was gonna miss time with his shoulder. Eball has finally met his match!
bobobonators Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Why is it every single time we clean house on the defensive side it has to come with a switch between a 3-4 and a 4-3. Stache 600-600 4-3, Pettine 3-4, Schwartz 4-3, Rex 3-4, McDermott 4-3. The talent erosion would not have been nearly this bad if they just limited the house leaning moves to the same general scheme. This franchise is a disaster thats why.
Jasovon Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 We could feasibly of cut him. This is great value for us we can't use him.
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I think McBean wants what Marv/Levy wanted. Safe, lunch pail guys who try to squeak games out with field position and lucky bounces. Waiting for the other team to make a mistake. This was not the mark of Levy's teams....plus you forgot blue collar and Buffalo guys....get all the cliches on one post
IDBillzFan Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Yup, exactly. I said this in the other Ragland thread. This is why it sucks changing schemes every couple of years and why I want McDermott to be here for at least 4-5 years. I want to actually see the Bills be able to build something for once, without changing visions 2-3 years in... Learned last night that the Niners gave both John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan six-year deals.
BringBackOrton Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Learned last night that the Niners gave both John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan six-year deals. What did they give Chip? What did we give the Rexit and Whales? Edited August 28, 2017 by jmc12290
26CornerBlitz Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Tank Only if there's a Dareus for Osweiler trade.
fridge Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 As a fan of the Bills (not just a specific regime - something a lot of these GMs seem to forget), this is so incredibly frustrating. The Rex Ryan hire was one of the most obvious and clear mistakes in franchise history. It set us back in more ways than people realized at the time, and the change in scheme has resulted in many players aging out of their prime with good teams, and other players deemed irrelevant. I'm not interested in assigning blame anymore, it's just pure frustration at this point and absolutely maddening that we can sit here and watch them telegraph so many mistakes to us. Will this regime turn it around? Should I be hyped by all these trades? I don't know, but I don't give them the benefit of the doubt. We've seen this script before, and it usually gets thrown out before the third act.
bisonbrigade Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Only if there's a Dareus for Osweiler trade. Sounds good to me. Tank.
Mat68 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 So that was a sweet trade up for the Bills. Reggie Ragland cost them a second round pick, and 2 fourth round picks. Parlayed that into 0 games played and 1 fourth round pick in 2019. Maybe it's a fine trade for what he is worth (which appears to be about nothing), but it certainly is quite the indictment on that 2016 selection. That is why everyone in the front office is gone. Ragland was in trouble of not making the 53 so they took back all they could when he was going to be gone come saturday anyway.
sb_bound Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 So in three years when we switch coaching staffs again and hire someone that wants to run a 3-4 defense we can start all over again. The Bills are a broken record at this point. McDermott and Beane are just too scared to completely break it down and start from scratch like they should.
IDBillzFan Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 What did they give Chip? What did we give the Rexit and Whales? Not six?
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