machine gun kelly Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Why keep going over stuff from what Clinton was still finishing his presidency? Ralph kept the team here, made sure to sell to someone who would not move the team, and then basically donated almost all the proceeds to Detroit and Buffalo. Al Davis screwed up too in his old age. As much as I hate Jerry Jones, at least he was smart enough to turn over a ton of control to Steven, his son, which has improved the team. Don't get me wrong I HATE Dallas, Jimmy Johnson, and want them to never win another SB. I'm hoping the GB of the world keep killings them in the playoffs. The only reason I don't hate the Giants is they beat the Pats twice in the SB.
klos63 Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Revisionist history here. Knox was competent but so painfully conservative his teams could never win a championship, before, during, or after his Bills tenure. Never made the Super Bowl in 22 years of head coaching and had a 7-11 post season record. Solid guy but after 5 seasons it was time to move on. (Of course it did get worse until Marv came onboard). I'm not rewriting history. It was horrible after Knox left, probably the worst era of Bills football in my lifetime and possibly in franchise history.
LABILLBACKER Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Sometimes I wonder if it's still karma for starting Rob over Doug. Ralph wanted a return on his investment, imo it really hasn't been the same since Still one of the stupidest moves in NFL history
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 I'm not rewriting history. It was horrible after Knox left, probably the worst era of Bills football in my lifetime and possibly in franchise history. ....but the Knox era is known as " ground Chuck" or "run run pass punt" for a reason.....like watchin' Benjamin Moore dry............
RevWarRifleman Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Can we take down the statue of Wilson outside of the stadium and replace it with one of Robert E. Lee? Who's with me? Lee couldn't win on the road. 0-2, with Antietam, Md., and a crushing defeat at Gettysburg.
klos63 Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 ....but the Knox era is known as " ground Chuck" or "run run pass punt" for a reason.....like watchin' Benjamin Moore dry............ We made the playoffs- great defense , strong running game.... Jerry Butler and Frank Lewis a great WR tandem. All the crap we deal with over the years and we have people criticizing Knox. Come on.
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Lee couldn't win on the road. 0-2, with Antietam, Md., and a crushing defeat at Gettysburg. But he only lost Antietam because McClellan stole his play book. *sigh* If only Belicheck had the "competence" of Little Mac.
klos63 Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 ....but the Knox era is known as " ground Chuck" or "run run pass punt" for a reason.....like watchin' Benjamin Moore dry............ Yeah, that Dolphins home opener put us all to sleep, 4-0 start pretty boring. Be serious.
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 LOL @ the turds bashing the Pegula's. But the completely unironic "Pegula's a horrible owner because he's a fan like us! Here's what I think he should do..." are absolutely priceless. ....but the Knox era is known as " ground Chuck" or "run run pass punt" for a reason.....like watchin' Benjamin Moore dry............ Considering that I've spent the past few years of Sundays painting rather than watching football, your statement seems to me much more complimentary than I think you intended it...
RevWarRifleman Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 But he only lost Antietam because McClellan stole his play book. *sigh* If only Belicheck had the "competence" of Little Mac. Lee's boys left the playbook laying in an open field. But Little Mac still didn't know how to defense it. Shades of Jauron.
nucci Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) ....but the Knox era is known as " ground Chuck" or "run run pass punt" for a reason.....like watchin' Benjamin Moore dry............ You didn't watch Ferguson throwing to Cribbs, Butler, Brammer and Lewis? We had good offenses with Knox. He was a great coach Edited August 27, 2017 by nucci
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 We made the playoffs- great defense , strong running game.... Jerry Butler and Frank Lewis a great WR tandem. All the crap we deal with over the years and we have people criticizing Knox. Come on. ....probably the style that makes it a diminished era irrespective of results..like watchin Benjamin Moore can dry on your porch....
klos63 Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 ....probably the style that makes it a diminished era irrespective of results..like watchin Benjamin Moore can dry on your porch.... You have an unhealthy obsession with Benjamin Moore.
transient Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Doug sucked. Careful what you say about the hand of Khaleesi or risk being burned alive by dragon's fire.
nucci Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 You have an unhealthy obsession with Benjamin Moore. and who watches paint dry...I mean, honestly
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 Bad pre-season game and the Pegula bashers coming out I can understand. But Ralph Wilson bashing for stuff he did 15 years ago? Give me a break. EXACTLY! This thread is ridiculous.
transient Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 and who watches a team guaranteed to break your heart that hasn't shown signs of competence in over 17 years...I mean, honestly The Benjamin Moore show honestly doesn't sound so bad, when you think about it.
WIDE LEFT Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 You don't want to bash Ralph Wilson? Okay I will do it for you. Long before Tom Donahue or GM Levy, good old Ralph was running this franchise into the ground. He is the only owner in NFL history to lose the number one pick in the NFL draft to the CFL, for christsakes. Ralph owned the team for 20+ years by the time he drafted Jim Kelly; at which point Kelly saw what a mess this franchise was and jumped to USFL. Read Kelly's autobiography. They had to sneak the hiring of Bill Polian past Ralph, who opposed it. After hall of famer Polian constructed the best teams Buffalo ever had, Ralph fired him. He paid $25,000 for this franchise, which appreciated in value to over 1 billion dollars, and that wasn't enough for Mr Wilson. After realizing a significant profit every year, in addition to his billion dollar + windfall, he decided he needed an extra 10 million so he gives up competitive advantage by moving games to Toronto. The players hated it. John Murphy railed against it. For most of the years he owned this team, their win/loss record has been horrendous. The notion that most Bills fans have,m that is that Ralph deserves hero worship because he kept the team in Buffalo, ignores the huge financial award he received for keeping the team here. And conviently ignores the fact that good old Ralph, in the early 70s, threatened to move the franchise to Seattle, unless the taxpayers of Erie County built him a stadium. For which he paid nothing for. And named it after himself, despite the fact he contributed zero to it, and despite the fact that for all his whining about lack of revenue, he was willing to give up the 5 million plus per year in naming rights to have the stadium named after him, that stadium everybody here but him paid for. The great Ralph Wilson indeed.
8-8 Forever? Posted August 27, 2017 Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) +1 + another 1. I could go on and on on this , but looks like the basic truths have already been posted. I won't be watching anything live this year. they look to be bottoming out this year. i know they are just trying out guys and patterns last night, so who cares about scores and points, but the talent doesn't look to be there. win 3 or 4 games, hang onto the top 12 talents on the team, then go get a QB and some other high draft choices. McBeanes will get it turned around. Not that difficult Edited August 27, 2017 by jmcraig44
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