SoTier Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I guess I was maybe five or six when I figured out Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy weren't real. Apparently, some Bills fans haven't stopped believing in them even though they're well into adulthood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I like nasty Nate. He has showed some good things. A QB is not "accurate" if he can hit a nice pass about 1/2 the time. Â He seriously needs to work on consistency if he ever wants to start for us. 50% ain't gonna get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 There's genuinely a lot to be optimistic about with the new regime in place. The organization has made a good deal of impact moves and I agree with all but one, and that one may still pay off in the end.   There were three major moves that happened during the offseason that I was all over:   1. The signing of Sean McDermottt as the Bills head coach after the departure of Rex Ryan.   2. The drafting of Nathan Peterman.   3. The drafting of a potential No.1 receiver to replace Sammy Watkins with.    The Bills look pretty horrid this preseason with all the penalties mounting game after game, but I chalk that up to not having the undisciplined play established while under Rex Ryan being flushed out of the system of the players completely yet. It's only been two games but it takes time for a team with bad habits to take up a new coach's identity and morph into the team that he envisions.  With Sean McDermott and this new coaching staff, it's only a matter of time before the culture change is complete, the team begins adapting to the new style of play, and positive results begin to show.   Nathan Peterman.   With all the talk about QB's this offseason it was a delight to see a guy you coveted actually get selected in the draft.  With the way things ended in Buffalo this past season, there was a bunch of uncertainty at the QB position.  Had we seen the last of Tyrod Taylor?  Was Cardale Jones the guy?  Which QB should the Bills draft in 2017?   Of course as things played out, Tyrod returned, Cardale Jones was traded to the L.A. Chargers and former Bills coach Anthony Lynn, and Nathan Peterman was selected in the 5th rd.   Some fans fear that Cardale Jones will blossom under different coaching and a cannon arm with potential, would have walked away for next to nothing in return.  Time will tell what Cardale Jones really has to offer as a QB, but I don't share those same fears, because as I stated before the NFL Combine process, Senior Bowl Weekend, and the NFL Draft, Nathan Peterman is already the better QB between himself and Jones if Cardale hasn't made many any strides from the previous season. I even went on to state that Peterman has qualities, as a rookie, that surpass that of Tyrod Taylor right now.  He was the QB I preferred if the Bills passed on Mitch Trubisky, DeShaun Watson, and DeShone Kizer in the 1st rd., preferring him over Patrick Mahomes III, who the Bills ironically helped the Chiefs land by trading out of its original draft spot.  I must admit Mahomes has looked good in the preseason, but so has Peterman's accuracy, pocket awareness, decision-making, and poise as a rookie. I bet people's eyes are being opened now to what Peterman brings to the table.   The Sammy Watkins trade was a shocker, but it was a move that I understood completely.   Regardless of how Watkins' career pans out with the Los Angeles Rams, the decision was solid.  For a long time I thought the Bills needed to bring in a wide receiver who would not just complement Watkins, but could outright replace him as the team's No. 1 receiver and I think the Bills finally have that in Zay Jones. Not as heralded out of college as Watkins was out of Clemson, but I think his ability along with his intangibles will prove him to be the receiver fans hoped Watkins would be when drafted No. 4 in 2014. The injuries, made the trade make sense, the potential contract situation given his history of injuries made it make sense, and the fact that I always felt the Watkins was a slightly overrated impact player for the Bills made the trade make sense...at least to me.   The only move I'm somewhat skeptical about is the trade of Ronald Darby to the Philly, and man was my Skept-O-Meter going crazy after he intercepted Tyrod Taylor and nearly returned it for a TD. Luckily E.J. Gaines, the DB who was nabbed along with an extra 3rd rounder returned the favor later in the game. So I'm a little more hopeful that McDermott and the Bills coaching staff know something about E.J. Gaines that most Bills fans' probably don't.   All in all, a very good off-season.   The addition of Sean McDermott, Nathan Peterman, Zay Jones, stud rookies from last season returning healthy, solid trades/FA signings, and a slew of additional 2018 draft picks, things are finally looking up for the Bills   This time, for real.   No better time to reverse the Bills fortune than by winning this upcoming 2017 season. Go Bills!       sorry guys i don't agree with one of the trades they were not even and if we trade them its going to get worse and both players are free agents BEANE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY now boldin retiring bad move by the front office and all coaches they won't make the palyoffs for another 20 years ALL THE WRONG MOVES NOT GOOD FOR THE FRANCHISE WHO IS GOING TO come to buffalo in free agency not many I feel like maybe these 2 are actually the same poster who suffers from multiple personality disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMedia Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I stopped after one of the points was drafting Nathan Peterman, yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I stopped after one of the points was drafting Nathan Peterman, yikes. I liked the Peterman pick a lot, rd 5 after all, ,he may not be a franchise QB but he looks serviceable in the NFL, hard worker, good leadership skills. I think Peterman will have a long career in the NFL, probably as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Boldin retiring is a HUGE embarrassment for the front office. There is no there way to spin it. He was brought in to soften the blow from trading Sammy and to provide much needed leadership in the locker room. Now what? He quit on the team before even playing one snap at home...and the locker room is going to be a wreck now. Good luck spinning this to the remaining players. WHAT A MESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 There's genuinely a lot to be optimistic about with the new regime in place. The organization has made a good deal of impact moves and I agree with all but one, and that one may still pay off in the end.   There were three major moves that happened during the offseason that I was all over:   1. The signing of Sean McDermottt as the Bills head coach after the departure of Rex Ryan.   2. The drafting of Nathan Peterman.   3. The drafting of a potential No.1 receiver to replace Sammy Watkins with.    The Bills look pretty horrid this preseason with all the penalties mounting game after game, but I chalk that up to not having the undisciplined play established while under Rex Ryan being flushed out of the system of the players completely yet. It's only been two games but it takes time for a team with bad habits to take up a new coach's identity and morph into the team that he envisions.  With Sean McDermott and this new coaching staff, it's only a matter of time before the culture change is complete, the team begins adapting to the new style of play, and positive results begin to show.   Nathan Peterman.   With all the talk about QB's this offseason it was a delight to see a guy you coveted actually get selected in the draft.  With the way things ended in Buffalo this past season, there was a bunch of uncertainty at the QB position.  Had we seen the last of Tyrod Taylor?  Was Cardale Jones the guy?  Which QB should the Bills draft in 2017?   Of course as things played out, Tyrod returned, Cardale Jones was traded to the L.A. Chargers and former Bills coach Anthony Lynn, and Nathan Peterman was selected in the 5th rd.   Some fans fear that Cardale Jones will blossom under different coaching and a cannon arm with potential, would have walked away for next to nothing in return.  Time will tell what Cardale Jones really has to offer as a QB, but I don't share those same fears, because as I stated before the NFL Combine process, Senior Bowl Weekend, and the NFL Draft, Nathan Peterman is already the better QB between himself and Jones if Cardale hasn't made many any strides from the previous season. I even went on to state that Peterman has qualities, as a rookie, that surpass that of Tyrod Taylor right now.  He was the QB I preferred if the Bills passed on Mitch Trubisky, DeShaun Watson, and DeShone Kizer in the 1st rd., preferring him over Patrick Mahomes III, who the Bills ironically helped the Chiefs land by trading out of its original draft spot.  I must admit Mahomes has looked good in the preseason, but so has Peterman's accuracy, pocket awareness, decision-making, and poise as a rookie. I bet people's eyes are being opened now to what Peterman brings to the table.   The Sammy Watkins trade was a shocker, but it was a move that I understood completely.   Regardless of how Watkins' career pans out with the Los Angeles Rams, the decision was solid.  For a long time I thought the Bills needed to bring in a wide receiver who would not just complement Watkins, but could outright replace him as the team's No. 1 receiver and I think the Bills finally have that in Zay Jones. Not as heralded out of college as Watkins was out of Clemson, but I think his ability along with his intangibles will prove him to be the receiver fans hoped Watkins would be when drafted No. 4 in 2014. The injuries, made the trade make sense, the potential contract situation given his history of injuries made it make sense, and the fact that I always felt the Watkins was a slightly overrated impact player for the Bills made the trade make sense...at least to me.   The only move I'm somewhat skeptical about is the trade of Ronald Darby to the Philly, and man was my Skept-O-Meter going crazy after he intercepted Tyrod Taylor and nearly returned it for a TD. Luckily E.J. Gaines, the DB who was nabbed along with an extra 3rd rounder returned the favor later in the game. So I'm a little more hopeful that McDermott and the Bills coaching staff know something about E.J. Gaines that most Bills fans' probably don't.   All in all, a very good off-season.   The addition of Sean McDermott, Nathan Peterman, Zay Jones, stud rookies from last season returning healthy, solid trades/FA signings, and a slew of additional 2018 draft picks, things are finally looking up for the Bills   This time, for real.   No better time to reverse the Bills fortune than by winning this upcoming 2017 season. Go Bills!     Great post. The future is bright here.  I would love to see Peterman every game this season because if he is the real deal, watch out with all the picks we have.  I'm glad we finally have a PLAN in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I am all in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Boldin retiring is a HUGE embarrassment for the front office. There is no there way to spin it. He was brought in to soften the blow from trading Sammy and to provide much needed leadership in the locker room. Now what? He quit on the team before even playing one snap at home...and the locker room is going to be a wreck now. Good luck spinning this to the remaining players. WHAT A MESS It would have been a much, much bigger mess to keep him on the team and even worse, actually have him start. His performance last week was pitiful to watch, Players aren't stupid, they saw what he had to offer, Everyone realizes Boldin was way past his prime. Â Â I don't think the lockeroom will be a mess nor do I think it is an embarrassment to the FO, they took a shot and it didn't work out, I cant blame them for that. Lockeroom would have probably been a mess had they kept on over the hill player that cant contribute. Â Only real question I have is did the Bills work out AQ before they signed him, if they didn't than it is embarrassing for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He quit on the team before even playing one snap at home...and the locker room is going to be a wreck now. Â Literally laughed out loud reading this. Â Boldin was here for - what, a week and a half? Â Good Lord, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I guess I was maybe five or six when I figured out Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy weren't real. Apparently, some Bills fans haven't stopped believing in them even though they're well into adulthood. I think you have missed the mark here. Professional sports=entertainment. It's an escape from reality. It's a soap opera for sports loving people. It is the original reality tv series and business is booming! Â Picking sides on this soap opera is the pursuit of entertainment. Positive people will be so, critical people will be so, the earth will turn and each perspective will be rewarded with being right sometimes. Â The single largest fictional construct of the entire endeavor is when people believe that the outcome really changes their lives. It doesn't. If you love watching the bills play with your family, you're going to do it. Â If it's your favorite fall Sunday activity with your 7 yr old son, as with me- you will keep doing it. If you love to tailgate and tossing a football around in the snow you will. Someday they'll win, but they are competing against 31 other teams trying to do the same. If it's a way of bonding with the family, it should continue to be. Â Believe what you want. You'll be right sometimes and wrong others. But there are zero results to gauge these guys on. Literally nothing. They're not doing the same thing as the last regime. But that last regime was deemed unsuccessful. Maybe the fan base ire over these transaction pinpoint that they are a paradigm shift the organization needed. Â But assailing folks for taking views opposing your own as akin to figments and fairy tails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's interesting how Watkins was such a bum before the trade and now he was the glue holding the team together. Weren't we supposed to be a 4-win team with him? Well I never thought he was a bum. Some fans had issues with him beyond football. He wasn't the " glue" but he was their most talented offensive player next to Shady by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Odds are also high that Donald will suck. Thank you! I was just going to write that, considering the history of USC quarterbacks in the NFL (hint - it's not good!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Â Literally laughed out loud reading this. Â Boldin was here for - what, a week and a half? Â Good Lord, people. I think they're referring to the WR corps' lack of veteran leadership/presence in general. Â Â Â ....and they have a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm actually encouraged by most of what I've seen so far, but this could be a rough year. I'm feeling better about these guys having a vision and a plan to get there for the first time in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I watched Cardale play yesterday, he didn't look good at all. He can throw a rope on the out pattern though. But for the most part, we won't miss him. He reminds of that QB we had, the dough boy? What was his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Boldin retiring is a HUGE embarrassment for the front office. There is no there way to spin it. He was brought in to soften the blow from trading Sammy and to provide much needed leadership in the locker room. Now what? He quit on the team before even playing one snap at home...and the locker room is going to be a wreck now. Good luck spinning this to the remaining players. WHAT A MESS I don't understand how this is an embarrassment to the front office. They pursued a player with a strong body of work, still had an interest in playing, but then made a decision to retire. How is that on the front office? They are trying to bring in players, but are not mind readers. Boldin retiring is actually a blessing for the Team, fans and Boldin. He did not look good in preseason and now gives an opportunity to a young, speedy, hungry WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Completely agree. I know we've waited do long but I have a weird feeling that McBean is the right combo. We've hoarding lots of picks. Maybe we deal a couple more away? There's a lot of quality QB's coming out this spring. Stay the course and let them build THIER team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Thank you! I was just going to write that, considering the history of USC quarterbacks in the NFL (hint - it's not good!) Palmer is by far the most successful right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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