Augie Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Enjoy watching some garbage. You obviously wanted this. Beane is inept. what is the vision? sucking for 5 years. and when the current players become good trade them for 2nd round picks. seriously what is the plan? to find tom brady next draft? this is pure stupidity. Someone sounds cranky! I like the idea of leaders that understand the value of building a winner through the draft. I like that they have stockpiled high picks in a draft that may turn out to be one of the better years for QB's in quite a while. (THAT is obviously the critical piece.) While I do HATE losing Sammy and his exceptional ability, I'm glad to get something of value in return if they had decided they were not going to break the bank for a WR and make the team more top heavy from a cap standpoint. These are big picture things I think may work in the long run. Time will tell.
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Are you kidding me me this crap....before o e regular season game? This is comedy
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Wins vs losses. That will be the outcome they are judged upon. Getchya popcorn ready!
NewEra Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 sorry guys i don't agree with one of the trades they were not even and if we trade them its going to get worse and both players are free agents BEANE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY now boldin retiring bad move by the front office and all coaches they won't make the palyoffs for another 20 years ALL THE WRONG MOVES NOT GOOD FOR THE FRANCHISE WHO IS GOING TO come to buffalo in free agency not many Lol
BobbyC81 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 sorry guys i don't agree with one of the trades they were not even and if we trade them its going to get worse and both players are free agents BEANE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY now boldin retiring bad move by the front office and all coaches they won't make the palyoffs for another 20 years ALL THE WRONG MOVES NOT GOOD FOR THE FRANCHISE WHO IS GOING TO come to buffalo in free agency not many Punctuation can be your friend (and definitely to anyone reading this)
Green Lightning Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It's called building a team correctly. Not the yearly bandaid and hope method we"ve bedn subject to for 17 years. We weren't going to the playoffs this year anyway with Watkins. Let's see what the kids can do.
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Geez man. McDermott and Beane have done nothing to convince me they're onto something. Quite the opposite actually.
8-8 Forever? Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 To be fair, that's kinda what we dealt with the last couple of years. And we still scored points. I just think Roman's play designs fit our roster better than a WC offense. indeed. i wanna see it but i just don't see how this O is going to score enough. but we will see. Dennison is pretty good. he will earn his dough this year
billsfan60 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 There's genuinely a lot to be optimistic about with the new regime in place. The organization has made a good deal of impact moves and I agree with all but one, and that one may still pay off in the end. There were three major moves that happened during the offseason that I was all over: 1. The signing of Sean McDermottt as the Bills head coach after the departure of Rex Ryan. 2. The drafting of Nathan Peterman. 3. The drafting of a potential No.1 receiver to replace Sammy Watkins with. The Bills look pretty horrid this preseason with all the penalties mounting game after game, but I chalk that up to not having the undisciplined play established while under Rex Ryan being flushed out of the system of the players completely yet. It's only been two games but it takes time for a team with bad habits to take up a new coach's identity and morph into the team that he envisions. With Sean McDermott and this new coaching staff, it's only a matter of time before the culture change is complete, the team begins adapting to the new style of play, and positive results begin to show. Nathan Peterman. With all the talk about QB's this offseason it was a delight to see a guy you coveted actually get selected in the draft. With the way things ended in Buffalo this past season, there was a bunch of uncertainty at the QB position. Had we seen the last of Tyrod Taylor? Was Cardale Jones the guy? Which QB should the Bills draft in 2017? Of course as things played out, Tyrod returned, Cardale Jones was traded to the L.A. Chargers and former Bills coach Anthony Lynn, and Nathan Peterman was selected in the 5th rd. Some fans fear that Cardale Jones will blossom under different coaching and a cannon arm with potential, would have walked away for next to nothing in return. Time will tell what Cardale Jones really has to offer as a QB, but I don't share those same fears, because as I stated before the NFL Combine process, Senior Bowl Weekend, and the NFL Draft, Nathan Peterman is already the better QB between himself and Jones if Cardale hasn't made many any strides from the previous season. I even went on to state that Peterman has qualities, as a rookie, that surpass that of Tyrod Taylor right now. He was the QB I preferred if the Bills passed on Mitch Trubisky, DeShaun Watson, and DeShone Kizer in the 1st rd., preferring him over Patrick Mahomes III, who the Bills ironically helped the Chiefs land by trading out of its original draft spot. I must admit Mahomes has looked good in the preseason, but so has Peterman's accuracy, pocket awareness, decision-making, and poise as a rookie. I bet people's eyes are being opened now to what Peterman brings to the table. The Sammy Watkins trade was a shocker, but it was a move that I understood completely. Regardless of how Watkins' career pans out with the Los Angeles Rams, the decision was solid. For a long time I thought the Bills needed to bring in a wide receiver who would not just complement Watkins, but could outright replace him as the team's No. 1 receiver and I think the Bills finally have that in Zay Jones. Not as heralded out of college as Watkins was out of Clemson, but I think his ability along with his intangibles will prove him to be the receiver fans hoped Watkins would be when drafted No. 4 in 2014. The injuries, made the trade make sense, the potential contract situation given his history of injuries made it make sense, and the fact that I always felt the Watkins was a slightly overrated impact player for the Bills made the trade make sense...at least to me. The only move I'm somewhat skeptical about is the trade of Ronald Darby to the Philly, and man was my Skept-O-Meter going crazy after he intercepted Tyrod Taylor and nearly returned it for a TD. Luckily E.J. Gaines, the DB who was nabbed along with an extra 3rd rounder returned the favor later in the game. So I'm a little more hopeful that McDermott and the Bills coaching staff know something about E.J. Gaines that most Bills fans' probably don't. All in all, a very good off-season. The addition of Sean McDermott, Nathan Peterman, Zay Jones, stud rookies from last season returning healthy, solid trades/FA signings, and a slew of additional 2018 draft picks, things are finally looking up for the Bills This time, for real. No better time to reverse the Bills fortune than by winning this upcoming 2017 season. Go Bills! You're lucky most of the doom and gloomers are over on the Boldin thread railing against the machine, sharpening pitchforks and lighting torches. These moves are exactly what needed to be done, the only caveat being they never should have waited till rd 5 to take Peterman. I do think, however, the winning starts next year (barring a holywood type shocker) and 4 to 5 wins is probable.
Billsmovinup Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Wins vs losses. That will be the outcome they are judged upon. Getchya popcorn ready! Gonna need sour diesel or afghan kush to watch the Bills this year.
White Linen Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 sorry guys i don't agree with one of the trades they were not even and if we trade them its going to get worse and both players are free agents BEANE NEEDS TO GO IMMEDIATELY now boldin retiring bad move by the front office and all coaches they won't make the palyoffs for another 20 years ALL THE WRONG MOVES NOT GOOD FOR THE FRANCHISE WHO IS GOING TO come to buffalo in free agency not many I think these young execs are learning a lesson tonight, no doubt. If it's a tank, I'm all for it. In other words, I hope they are doing this on purpose. The end better justify the means.
major Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 If everything lands us Darnold from USC next year, I'll be good with this
Boatdrinks Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It's called building a team correctly. Not the yearly bandaid and hope method we"ve bedn subject to for 17 years. We weren't going to the playoffs this year anyway with Watkins. Let's see what the kids can do. We know he playoffs weren't happening this year. Watkins could have been a valuable piece going forward , especially with a young QB (hopefully )coming aboard. If everything lands us Darnold from USC next year, I'll be good with this That's a huge IF and I would say the odds are against it.
cba fan Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) There's genuinely a lot to be optimistic about with the new regime in place. The organization has made a good deal of impact moves and I agree with all but one, and that one may still pay off in the end. There were three major moves that happened during the offseason that I was all over. 1. The signing of Sean McDermottt as the Bills head coach after the departure of Rex Ryan. 2. The drafting of Nathan Peterman. 3. The drafting of a potential No.1 receiver to replace Sammy Watkins with. The Bills look pretty horrid this preseason with all the penalties mounting game after game, but I chalk that up to not having the undisciplined play established while under Rex Ryan being flushed out of the system of the players completely yet. It's only been two games but it takes time for a team with bad habits to take up a new coach's identity and morph into the team that he envisions. With Sean McDermott and this new coaching staff, it's only a matter of time before the culture change is complete, the team begins adapting to the new style of play, and positive results begin to show. Nathan Peterman. With all the talk about QB's this offseason it was a delight to see a guy you coveted actually get selected in the draft. With the way things ended in Buffalo this past season, there was a bunch of uncertainty at the QB position. Had we seen the last of Tyrod Taylor? Was Cardale Jones the guy? Which QB should the Bills draft in 2017? Of course as things played out, Tyrod returned, Cardale Jones was traded to the L.A. Chargers and former Bills coach Anthony Lynn, and Nathan Peterman was selected in the 5th rd. Some fans fear that Cardale Jones will blossom under different coaching and a cannon arm with potential, would have walked away for next to nothing in return. Time will tell what Cardale Jones really has to offer as a QB, but I don't share those same fears, because as I stated before the NFL Combine process, Senior Bowl Weekend, and the NFL Draft, Nathan Peterman is already the better QB between himself and Jones if Cardale hasn't made many any strides from the previous season. I even went on to state that Peterman has qualities, as a rookie, that surpass that of Tyrod Taylor right now. He was the QB I preferred if the Bills passed on Mitch Trubisky, DeShaun Watson, and DeShone Kizer in the 1st rd., preferring him over Patrick Mahomes III, who the Bills ironically helped the Chiefs land by trading out of its original draft spot. I must admit Mahomes has looked good in the preseason, but so has Peterman's accuracy, pocket awareness, decision-making, and poise as a rookie. I bet people's eyes are being opened now to what Peterman brings to the table. The Sammy Watkins trade was a shocker, but it was a move that I understood completely. Regardless of how Watkins' career pans out with the Los Angeles Rams, the decision was solid. For a long time I thought the Bills needed to bring in a wide receiver who would not just complement Watkins, but could outright replace him as the team's No. 1 receiver and I think the Bills finally have that in Zay Jones. Not as heralded out of college as Watkins was out of Clemson, but I think his ability along with his intangibles will prove him to be the receiver fans hoped Watkins would be when drafted No. 4 in 2014. The injuries, made the trade make sense, the potential contract situation given his history of injuries made it make sense, and the fact that I always felt the Watkins was a slightly overrated impact player for the Bills made the trade make sense...at least to me. The only move I'm somewhat skeptical about is the trade of Ronald Darby to the Philly, and man was my Skept-O-Meter going crazy after he intercepted Tyrod Taylor and nearly returned it for a TD. Luckily E.J. Gaines, the DB who was nabbed along with an extra 3rd rounder returned the favor later in the game. So I'm a little more hopeful that McDermott and the Bills coaching staff know something about E.J. Gaines that most Bills fans' probably don't. All in all, a very good off-season. The addition of Sean McDermott, Nathan Peterman, Zay Jones, stud rookies from last season returning healthy, solid trades/FA signings, and a slew of additional 2018 draft picks, things are finally looking up for the Bills This time, for real. No better time to reverse the Bills fortune than by winning this upcoming 2017 season. Go Bills! I like what you are smoking but...... So it went like this. Pegs after a night of wine falling in love with McDerma and knew he was hired: Hay McDerma we got the O that can score and get us to the playoffs if we only have a decent D and better coaching. We have D players better suited for the 4-3. What are you going to do keeping in mind we have a seething fan base that has not sniffed the playoffs since disco music was big and a guy down from Canada with a mullet was our starting QB. We gotta reward them for loyalty before they go away. Whatcha gonna to do? McDerma: Gas everyone and then hire Beano and blow it all up. Pegs: You're hired. Wait! What? Edited August 21, 2017 by cba fan
Green Lightning Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 We know he playoffs weren't happening this year. Watkins could have been a valuable piece going forward , especially with a young QB (hopefully )coming aboard. That's the roll of the dice. Can he stay healthy and would be have signed?
4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 We know he playoffs weren't happening this year. Watkins could have been a valuable piece going forward , especially with a young QB (hopefully )coming aboard. That's a huge IF and I would say the odds are against it. Odds are also high that Donald will suck.
Gordio Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 They should put Taylor/Shady on the trading block. If that is what they want to do & tank, don't half ass it, go all in like the Jets are.
Original Byrd Man Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 There's genuinely a lot to be optimistic about with the new regime in place. The organization has made a good deal of impact moves and I agree with all but one, and that one may still pay off in the end. There were three major moves that happened during the offseason that I was all over: 1. The signing of Sean McDermottt as the Bills head coach after the departure of Rex Ryan. 2. The drafting of Nathan Peterman. 3. The drafting of a potential No.1 receiver to replace Sammy Watkins with. The Bills look pretty horrid this preseason with all the penalties mounting game after game, but I chalk that up to not having the undisciplined play established while under Rex Ryan being flushed out of the system of the players completely yet. It's only been two games but it takes time for a team with bad habits to take up a new coach's identity and morph into the team that he envisions. With Sean McDermott and this new coaching staff, it's only a matter of time before the culture change is complete, the team begins adapting to the new style of play, and positive results begin to show. Nathan Peterman. With all the talk about QB's this offseason it was a delight to see a guy you coveted actually get selected in the draft. With the way things ended in Buffalo this past season, there was a bunch of uncertainty at the QB position. Had we seen the last of Tyrod Taylor? Was Cardale Jones the guy? Which QB should the Bills draft in 2017? Of course as things played out, Tyrod returned, Cardale Jones was traded to the L.A. Chargers and former Bills coach Anthony Lynn, and Nathan Peterman was selected in the 5th rd. Some fans fear that Cardale Jones will blossom under different coaching and a cannon arm with potential, would have walked away for next to nothing in return. Time will tell what Cardale Jones really has to offer as a QB, but I don't share those same fears, because as I stated before the NFL Combine process, Senior Bowl Weekend, and the NFL Draft, Nathan Peterman is already the better QB between himself and Jones if Cardale hasn't made many any strides from the previous season. I even went on to state that Peterman has qualities, as a rookie, that surpass that of Tyrod Taylor right now. He was the QB I preferred if the Bills passed on Mitch Trubisky, DeShaun Watson, and DeShone Kizer in the 1st rd., preferring him over Patrick Mahomes III, who the Bills ironically helped the Chiefs land by trading out of its original draft spot. I must admit Mahomes has looked good in the preseason, but so has Peterman's accuracy, pocket awareness, decision-making, and poise as a rookie. I bet people's eyes are being opened now to what Peterman brings to the table. The Sammy Watkins trade was a shocker, but it was a move that I understood completely. Regardless of how Watkins' career pans out with the Los Angeles Rams, the decision was solid. For a long time I thought the Bills needed to bring in a wide receiver who would not just complement Watkins, but could outright replace him as the team's No. 1 receiver and I think the Bills finally have that in Zay Jones. Not as heralded out of college as Watkins was out of Clemson, but I think his ability along with his intangibles will prove him to be the receiver fans hoped Watkins would be when drafted No. 4 in 2014. The injuries, made the trade make sense, the potential contract situation given his history of injuries made it make sense, and the fact that I always felt the Watkins was a slightly overrated impact player for the Bills made the trade make sense...at least to me. The only move I'm somewhat skeptical about is the trade of Ronald Darby to the Philly, and man was my Skept-O-Meter going crazy after he intercepted Tyrod Taylor and nearly returned it for a TD. Luckily E.J. Gaines, the DB who was nabbed along with an extra 3rd rounder returned the favor later in the game. So I'm a little more hopeful that McDermott and the Bills coaching staff know something about E.J. Gaines that most Bills fans' probably don't. All in all, a very good off-season. The addition of Sean McDermott, Nathan Peterman, Zay Jones, stud rookies from last season returning healthy, solid trades/FA signings, and a slew of additional 2018 draft picks, things are finally looking up for the Bills This time, for real. No better time to reverse the Bills fortune than by winning this upcoming 2017 season. Go Bills! I get the feeling Boldin doesn't agree with you. He said he came here to win, then they trade Sammy and Anquan says adios amigos.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It's interesting how Watkins was such a bum before the trade and now he was the glue holding the team together. Weren't we supposed to be a 4-win team with him?
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