Jackington Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 ...succumb to the progressives on yet another bastian of this country....."In God We Trust" is out.....now we are attempting to erase history, ugly or not with any remnants of the confederacy..a once proud nation founded on laws, tolerance, respect is now swirling in the American Standard..."I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." means **** today....and as a WELL respected law enforcement official Beast, I'm shocked you would offer up the suggestion......succumb to players' stage?...seriously?.......we are already becoming a 3rd rate cesspool so why cave to these minions?.... "In God We Trust" should be out as it is clearly against the 1st amendment, or are you against the constitution? All this God stuff didn't happen until the 1950s as propaganda against Communists. The Confederacy lost and tried to fight for states rights for slaves. Read a book and learn about it if you want, don't flaunt it in front of people. I'm from the north and have never seen a confederate statue up here and know plenty about the Civil War, including Robert Lee being against Confederate statues. Also, the pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist, just so you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Close. But this one is better: What wud yew dew? Sorry, but Hulkamania would most certainly run wild on those silly little puppets. BROTHER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMan Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The day the NFL is done with the nat anthem, I'll b done with the NFL - even the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 No the NFL needs to do away with the idiot players who are protesting. If they can't show the courtesy and respect and decorum required for the playing of the national anthem then don't let them on the field until it's over. They don't deserve to be out there to even hear it. Why does anyone care if a player doesn't want to stand during the national anthem? If no one complained, it wouldn't be an issue. Why does Person B have to acquiesce to the desires of Person A? It's always been my understanding that one of the hallmarks of freedom is the ability to protest without fear of any form of punishment. If we start to prosecute those who protest, we'll be the same as the countries we claim to despise for the lack of their freedoms. People get more bent out of shape by a player taking a knee during the anthem than a player who beats the piss out of a woman. That is unbelievably strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Why does anyone care if a player doesn't want to stand during the national anthem? If no one complained, it wouldn't be an issue. Why does Person B have to acquiesce to the desires of Person A? It's always been my understanding that one of the hallmarks of freedom is the ability to protest without fear of any form of punishment. If we start to prosecute those who protest, we'll be the same as the countries we claim to despise for the lack of their freedoms. People get more bent out of shape by a player taking a knee during the anthem than a player who beats the piss out of a woman. That is unbelievably strange to me. Excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 the National Anthem is in no way a political song or otherwise political in any way, shape or form. They're protesting the song's unsung third verse that talks about killing former slaves. At least, that's what they should be protesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Why does anyone care if a player doesn't want to stand during the national anthem? If no one complained, it wouldn't be an issue. Why does Person B have to acquiesce to the desires of Person A? It's always been my understanding that one of the hallmarks of freedom is the ability to protest without fear of any form of punishment. If we start to prosecute those who protest, we'll be the same as the countries we claim to despise for the lack of their freedoms. People get more bent out of shape by a player taking a knee during the anthem than a player who beats the piss out of a woman. That is unbelievably strange to me. i think the OP was asking about if the anthem should be played, not whether anyone should be required to stand for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Excellent post. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) i think the OP was asking about if the anthem should be played, not whether anyone should be required to stand for it.. I understand that. My response was to some of the other responses to the poster. I thought that was clear since I posted the comment I was responding to. Edited August 19, 2017 by Kemp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 i think the OP was asking about if the anthem should be played, not whether anyone should be required to stand for it.. Play it, and let players elect to do what they want. They have that freedom. I'm free to judge them on their actions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What is wrong with some of you? Never take away the anthem from any of the sporting events. Left wing garbage. They want to protest. Let them. See how well that worked out for Kaepernick. No one who is reasonable condones needless violence of people of color, but defaming the anthem and our military and veterans is reprehensible. I can't believe these comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 It's interesting that the NBA doesn't have this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What is wrong with some of you? Never take away the anthem from any of the sporting events. Left wing garbage. They want to protest. Let them. See how well that worked out for Kaepernick. No one who is reasonable condones needless violence of people of color, but defaming the anthem and our military and veterans is reprehensible. I can't believe these comments. These two things are not related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What is wrong with some of you? Never take away the anthem from any of the sporting events. Left wing garbage. They want to protest. Let them. See how well that worked out for Kaepernick. No one who is reasonable condones needless violence of people of color, but defaming the anthem and our military and veterans is reprehensible. I can't believe these comments. Those who fail to stand for the anthem have never said they have anything against the military and/or veterans, to my knowledge. This is one of those strawman arguments made by people, who in my opinion, are trying to create a boogeyman for us to collectively hate, because of their own political opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I understand that. My response was to some of the other responses to the poster. I thought that was clear since I posted the comment I was responding to. playing the anthem should be continued IMHO, and.. let the individual player make the decision whether to stand..anything negative or positive that results from said player's decision will be judged.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What is wrong with some of you? Never take away the anthem from any of the sporting events. Left wing garbage. They want to protest. Let them. See how well that worked out for Kaepernick. No one who is reasonable condones needless violence of people of color, but defaming the anthem and our military and veterans is reprehensible. I can't believe these comments. So just to be clear, you're in favor of discrimination of labor against people exercising their 1st Amendment privileges, have somehow conflated the national anthem and the support of our military, and suggest that a reasonable person would condone violence against a person of color if deemed necessary. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Those who fail to stand for the anthem have never said they have anything against the military and/or veterans, to my knowledge. This is one of those strawman arguments made by people, who in my opinion, are trying to create a boogeyman for us to collectively hate, because of their own political opinions. what?? try the police.., pig socks.. far from a "straw man" argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 "In God We Trust" should be out as it is clearly against the 1st amendment, or are you against the constitution? All this God stuff didn't happen until the 1950s as propaganda against Communists. The Confederacy lost and tried to fight for states rights for slaves. Read a book and learn about it if you want, don't flaunt it in front of people. I'm from the north and have never seen a confederate statue up here and know plenty about the Civil War, including Robert Lee being against Confederate statues. Also, the pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist, just so you know. ...we're on opposite sides of the aisle as to what America means and so be it...no harm no foul....all good............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 what?? try the police.., pig socks.. far from a "straw man" argument I don't understand your comment. Are you saying NFL players should be punished for not standing during the anthem because someone wore pig socks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Keep it because the it will never stop. The left is never happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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