CommonCents Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Joe BuscagliaVerified account @JoeBuscaglia 17h17 hours ago More #Bills HC Sean McDermott says Ryan Groy is an option for right guard. Yikes. Like it's that hard to make that decision!
JerseyBills Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I admit I have a bad eye for judging an OL but even I could tell Duc looked absolutely awful.. Dawkins looked impressive minus 1 play. Miller looked solid.
rant_and_go Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Love how people think you can just move guards out to play tackle and take into no consideration arm length, footwork, or ability to play the position...they are two totally different positions... That's the problem with people playing Madden...they think they can just move anyone anywhere in real life and they'll be fine...reality is a long long way from Madden This is wrong. Versatility is a big trait to look for in olinemen. RT is not that as specialized as LT because you're not on the QBs blind side and won't be facing edge rushers who run a 4.4. Jason Peters moved from TE to LT and is one of the best ever at his position. Cowboys line moved this year. Consistenancy is big, have the same 5 starters for 16 games is huge. The backfield picks up on the nuances. But that's out the window because coaches' butt boys get the start instead of what's going to win the games. It's a game of blocking and tackling, that's it. Put your most violent goons on the field and you win. Everything else is on the coach.
thebandit27 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 This is wrong. Versatility is a big trait to look for in olinemen. RT is not that as specialized as LT because you're not on the QBs blind side and won't be facing edge rushers who run a 4.4. Jason Peters moved from TE to LT and is one of the best ever at his position. Cowboys line moved this year. Consistenancy is big, have the same 5 starters for 16 games is huge. The backfield picks up on the nuances. But that's out the window because coaches' butt boys get the start instead of what's going to win the games. It's a game of blocking and tackling, that's it. Put your most violent goons on the field and you win. Everything else is on the coach. There's almost no difference between LT and RT anymore with regard to what types of defenders a guy faces. Defenses will line up their best pass rusher over whichever tackle they believe they can overwhelm; that's why players like Markus Golden, Danielle Hunter, Cliff Avril, and Cameron Wake (all of whom finished in the top 6 in sacks last year) line up on the left side of their team's DL. Regardless, there are definitely traits that favor certain positions over others. Some guys have a lower center of gravity, react quicker, and locate better moving toward the center of the OL than moving away from it, and so those guys are much better-suited to play guard. Other guys have better footwork, longer arms, and require space to locate and lock onto defenders, and thus are better-suited to play tackle.
GunnerBill Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 There's almost no difference between LT and RT anymore with regard to what types of defenders a guy faces. Defenses will line up their best pass rusher over whichever tackle they believe they can overwhelm; that's why players like Markus Golden, Danielle Hunter, Cliff Avril, and Cameron Wake (all of whom finished in the top 6 in sacks last year) line up on the left side of their team's DL. And also why more and more teams are prioritising the book end tackles as the two most important line spots.
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Joe BuscagliaVerified account @JoeBuscaglia 17h17 hours agoMore #Bills HC Sean McDermott says Ryan Groy is an option for right guard. That's what the competition should have always been Groy vs Miller.
Bill from NYC Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 This is wrong. Versatility is a big trait to look for in olinemen. RT is not that as specialized as LT because you're not on the QBs blind side and won't be facing edge rushers who run a 4.4. Jason Peters moved from TE to LT and is one of the best ever at his position. Cowboys line moved this year. Consistenancy is big, have the same 5 starters for 16 games is huge. The backfield picks up on the nuances. But that's out the window because coaches' butt boys get the start instead of what's going to win the games. It's a game of blocking and tackling, that's it. Put your most violent goons on the field and you win. Everything else is on the coach. I generally agree with your post but will point out that Peters moved from tight end to right tackle, then to left tackle. Bandit is also correct. There is LESS of a difference between LT and RT these days, although imo one still exists. A RT can come a little closer to getting by on brute strength. A top LT absolutely must have excellent agility and mobility.
ALF Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Dawkins graded high by PFF for Ravens game at LT. That is very good news in case Glenn can't play or if Glenn could play RT . Put Miller or Groy in at RG and the OL is looking better. If they make Taylor stay in the pocket the OL is critical. I'm very impressed with Peterman so far , don't rush him till OL is solid.
Webster Guy Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Miller is good enough, they're just trying to evaluate for depth here. Starting lineup will be exactly the same as last year, Glenn is going to be on the field for the Jets game. Dawkins and Groy versatile backups. Everyone stop freaking out
Bangarang Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Miller is good enough, they're just trying to evaluate for depth here. Starting lineup will be exactly the same as last year, Glenn is going to be on the field for the Jets game. Dawkins and Groy versatile backups. Everyone stop freaking out If Miller is our best option and the guy who is going to start then it makes absolutely no sense on putting Ducasse out there with the first team offense. Ever. Why do that in pre-season when the objective should be to protect your QB with the best guys? Ducasse is a major liability.
MiltonWaddams Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 If Miller is our best option and the guy who is going to start then it makes absolutely no sense on putting Ducasse out there with the first team offense. Ever. Why do that in pre-season when the objective should be to protect your QB with the best guys? Ducasse is a major liability. This is so obvious to everyone...except Rico and Castillo. I really have no clue what they see in Ducasse. I never like to take personal pot-shots, but he really is outclassed by everyone he has faced on the oppositions DL. He has no business being on an NFL field.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Posted August 29, 2017 Miller is good enough, they're just trying to evaluate for depth here. Starting lineup will be exactly the same as last year, Glenn is going to be on the field for the Jets game. Dawkins and Groy versatile backups. Everyone stop freaking out Let's hope you're right, but I think Castillo really believes in Ducasse for some unknown reason.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Posted August 29, 2017 @viccarucci McDermott says RG battle between Miller & Ducasse "still an open competition. Both will play Thurs night."
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 29, 2017 Posted August 29, 2017 I'm predicting that Ducasse is our opening day starter at RG and Miller gets Cut. The tea leaves have been read.....and Ducasse was in the game during the TD drive last game.
outsidethebox Posted August 29, 2017 Posted August 29, 2017 Trust the process. I believe the coaches know more than us armchair coaches. They will pick who they think is the right fit for the scheme. Maybe Miller doesn't fit the scheme. Maybe we can trade him and pick up another draft pick?
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Time to end the RG battle. Miller in, Ducasse out.
Doc Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I have to believe that this was done to get Miller motivated.
Captain Murica Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Miller had no issues tonight and had his name called out a few times about how well he was blocking and getting to the second level. Ducasse was being called out for his terrible blocking.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 This is the most one-sided competition that I can remember. Miller is pretty good. Ducasse is atrocious.
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