Guest NeckBeard Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Interesting thread, OP. ;-) Bortles is awful, and I don't know if he'll ever get better (personally, I doubt it). In my market the Jax PS game was on Thursday night. I laughed out loud when Gruden said that "they've really been working on Bortles' mechanics" and went on to show a side-by-side graphic which reflected the old versus new mechanics; they looked identical to me. Even Gruden corrected himself and said something like, "oh, well, maybe they just changed a little bit." HA! IMO, even if TT is awful this year, Peterman ends up getting playing time, and some other TBD QB makes some starts, or a combination of all those things, I would much rather they take a QB high in 2018, and develop one for a change. Bringing in Bortles, and giving away higher round picks, is exactly the kind of backwards thinking that's kept this team down for as long as it has been.
Sweats Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 I can't believe this thread is already 5 pages in. I think we can all agree that Bortles is a definite down-grade.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Wanna play the "who you could have drafted" game? Jacksonville could have had Khalil Mack.
Buffalo716 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) There is a curious correlation between the condition of this board and the demise of bbmb. Any regular on tsw can spot the difference in heartbeat. That's a good trade. I bet that pinto shows up at every game and puts on a show! Or BBMB was getting infiltrated by lots of trolls and that forced its demise And they were coming here and arriving at the same time. Lot of good posters came over. I don't even want to name them because if I named 2 I'd have to name 10 and I wouldn't want to leave any out. Edited August 20, 2017 by Buffalo716
Buffalo Ballin Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) They are meaningless. TT may not be the long term answer, but he is not horrible. The Bills have a slight winning record when he plays. We have had much worse. A real game with Glenn back and Matthews back should look better. Or, trade him and McCoy and do a real tank and get the first overall pick. Holy crap. Finally. You're no longer in DENIAL about Tyrod Taylor. Took you 2.5 years. JM2009, back on BBMB, was all up on Tyrod's jock defending in EVERY.SINGLE.POST. Dude, what made you change? Why were you so adamant about Tyrod being a star QB with his low interception rating? Puahahahha. Wow. What a 180 turn by you. I wanted Tyrod gone 2 years ago though. Tyrod WILL be gone from Buffalo. He's not McDermott's guy and it's just a matter of time right now. Edited August 20, 2017 by Buffalo Ballin
Franchiseneedsme Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 I would do TT and a 3rd for Ramsey. He is a stud. Tt is a 1 year place holder. Make this happen
Doc Brown Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) On a side note since we're talking about the Jags. Anybody catch the end of that preseason game against the Bucs on ESPN? Down six points with plenty of time to run the ball the Jags had it 2nd and 1 from the Bucs 2 and they unsuccessfully passed it to the end zone three times. Marrone/Hackett back at it again. Edited August 20, 2017 by Doc Brown
gonzo1105 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 People are so desperate for the playoffs that they want to keep this together for one more year to see what happens. Tyrod Taylor is an average starting QB. Not great not terrible. This new regime by all accounts was ready to let Taylor walk to sign Brian Hoyer if he didn't agree to their terms. Taylor bit and did the deal. This staff has zero intention of keeping Taylor beyond this year whether it means drafting a guy in 2018, going with Peterman, or signing a vet. If Sam Bradford can fetch a 1st and 4th round pick than Tyrod Taylor can sure fetch at least one high pick. Jacksonville, Denver, and Indianapolis would seem like likely options if they go in that route. I could see the roster transformation continuing and Taylor and Ragland seem like the most likely to go
JM2009 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Holy crap. Finally. You're no longer in DENIAL about Tyrod Taylor. Took you 2.5 years. JM2009, back on BBMB, was all up on Tyrod's jock defending in EVERY.SINGLE.POST. Dude, what made you change? Why were you so adamant about Tyrod being a star QB with his low interception rating? Puahahahha. Wow. What a 180 turn by you. I wanted Tyrod gone 2 years ago though. Tyrod WILL be gone from Buffalo. He's not McDermott's guy and it's just a matter of time right now. I have never ever said he is a star QB. He is a low end starter and an excellent backup. he is the best the Bills have had in quite some time and is passable until better comes along. I have said this all along.
LABILLBACKER Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 I'd trade Taylor for a 4th, no need to add Bortles. Bortles is one of the few qbs worse than Tyrod. Pass
The Wiz Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Lol prepare for more. Its gonna be kneejerk city over the next 2 days come on Marty. You know it's kneejerk City 247 here.
Big Blitz Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 https://twitter.com/barstooltweetss/status/898353060543684608 Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
Paulus Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Funny thing, if McBeane made that trade, people here would act like it was a smart move and that the Bills were not tanking.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 I'll take AJ McCarron over both and it's a no brainer.
reddogblitz Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 I'll take AJ McCarron over both and it's a no brainer. As would I. I think he's a FA after this year.
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Enough of the crappy BBMB stuff. Every board has good and bad posters. I'm sure the banned list there is close to the banned list here. This is still going on? I miss things too, Ground Round.. decent family restaurant with free popcorn. TGIF programming, I miss hanging with Mr. Cooper. Answering machines... Cut the **** and recite the message right or this won't be a family affair, I'll do it my god damn self. The Smoking Section. 😤 But what I really miss is some f'n conversation on here that isn't thrown to the dogs in 45mins. GD we need some W's and a playoff birth. Idk how much more this board can stomach.
Scott7975 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 The problem with trading Tyrod is that you are essentially telling your team that we're tanking for the year. I don't think that sort of message would play out well not just with the fan base but within the locker room. Don't see this happening, yet. Exactly. Its bad enough they took Sammy and Darby off the team. Tyrod is loved by his teammates. McD would completely lose this team if they trade Tyrod.
Marty McFly Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 come on Marty. You know it's kneejerk City 247 here. Hell yeah Wiz Breh. Cant wait till mid September, TSW knees gonna jerk like a tanneyhill ACL tear
Crusher Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 It's sad that this regime is infatuated with Taylor's physical abilities like some fans instead of looking for a guy who can make the reads and all the throws. I would never willingly start a bad passer unless there was no other option...no matter what physical talent he possesses.
Noogie75 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Like I said last month before CJ was traded. TT was not gonna do good with this offense. He can not passss the ball. Everyone jumped on me with meaningless stats. This is a 7th year vet. I also said that at the end we get the truth... Now we can see the coaching staff's mess up. Dennison must be feeling real embarrassed. I Told Youuu.
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