atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 what happened to the whole one vision i find it very hard to believe that "successful" operations are trading away their #1 receiver without the coaches knowledge. do you really think things happen this way in NE or GB or even Baltimore? not to mention, this article displays the exact opposite of "how aligned the HC and GM are". McDermott may be accepting of the trade or complacent, but this wasn't an example of alignment. Did you read the article? In the article it states Beane spoke w McDermott after the game about a possible trade. The trade was then made. The article made it sound like the two were in agreement . That is exactly how things should happen.
oldmanfan Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 what happened to the whole one vision i find it very hard to believe that "successful" operations are trading away their #1 receiver without the coaches knowledge. do you really think things happen this way in NE or GB or even Baltimore? not to mention, this article displays the exact opposite of "how aligned the HC and GM are". McDermott may be accepting of the trade or complacent, but this wasn't an example of alignment. You can find it hard to believe but the GM, HC, and owner discussed it before the deal was consummated. Unless you're one of those conspiracy theorists who think they lie.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 You can find it hard to believe but the GM, HC, and owner discussed it before the deal was consummated. Unless you're one of those conspiracy theorists who think they lie.Yep. Everyone focusing on their jobs and responsibilities. Then when they have something to present that warrants a discussion they meet with the rest of the people in the operation. After the meeting actions are executed.
BillnutinHouston Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 I kind of understand his explanation. However when you trade someone of Sammy's stature, wouldn't it only be right to discuss it with the head coach before you pull the trigger. Sammy was a huge part of this offense. I'm not trying to draw conclusions but it make no sense. What trigger was pulled before Beane spoke to McD and Pegula? So Beane pulled such a bold move just weeks into his first GM gig?
Wayne Arnold Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Well, technically he waited until after the game to tell him a tentative deal was in place and get he and Pegula's alignment to pull the trigger. But the Rams GM said yesterday that they first started calling about Sammy right after the Bills declined his 5th year option, and had been in talks ever since. So McD certainly was aware this was a consideration and would have had to be on board with at least the possibility. They said things heated up in the last week so I'm pretty sure they designed those plays to Sammy to show the Rams he was healthy. Bingo. /thread
Rochesterfan Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 What a waste of a thread. The GM did exactly as he should- he talked with the HC and the Owner and made the trade. Since McD was already aware of calls - I am sure he and Beane decided at what point compensation was enough and the Rams finally got there. You finally have a functioning FO and people work hard to make it seem out of step - just crazy. Fans have been asking for a vision - we get 2 guys with a vision and a plan and then people criticize the plan or act like they do not know what they are doing - just makes no sense to me.
PABillsfan23 Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Could we get any more damn dramatic? Two drama drive forums?
YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 But did he talk to M&T Bank first? #rogue Could we get any more damn dramatic?I am still not over the trade myself but trying to paint a picture that Beane did this on his own is a giant stretch. Instead of telling McD and Pegs that the parameters for the trade were finally in place at 6pm, he told them at 11pm (or whatever). The talks had been going on for over 3 months. He did nothing unilaterally except his job while they did theirs on Thursday night.
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Wow talking about grasping at straws. Beane gets a tentative deal in place, then after the game he sits down with the HC and Owner and the trade happens. So basically the trade only happened after he discussed it with the HC and owner. Seems like a pretty good way of doing business.
T-Bomb Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 I don't get why ppl are whining? They all sat down after the game and decided to do the trade. Beane didn't trade Watkins without input from McDermott. Why is everyone in Buffalo such whiney bitches?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Could we get any more damn dramatic? sure it can. in teresting isn't this topic already being discussed? put me down as I don't care anymore. Next man up.
Captain_Quint Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 You are being super dramatic about this. Thats probably what the chick says, too.
Coach Tuesday Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) For someone who treats this board as his own personal conversation, replying to nearly every post and cluttering up the board with hundreds of new posts every day, how did you manage to miss a thread already directed to this very topic? https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/195350-does-anyone-believe-gm-beane-about-preseason-game/ Edited August 17, 2017 by Coach Tuesday
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 What do you do, take a highlighter and just highlight the words that fit your narrative, then string them into a sentence to fit your point. Explain to me where the article said Beane made the trade without the coaches knowledge. Amazing how you can come to the conclusion you did based on what was stated. But I understand that's what most do these days to prove they are right. As they say don't let facts get in the way of your point. what happened to the whole one vision i find it very hard to believe that "successful" operations are trading away their #1 receiver without the coaches knowledge. do you really think things happen this way in NE or GB or even Baltimore? not to mention, this article displays the exact opposite of "how aligned the HC and GM are". McDermott may be accepting of the trade or complacent, but this wasn't an example of alignment. for the record, I couldn't care less what the FO does or how they communicate, as long as they build a winner.
nucci Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Like someone already mentioned....as soon as 5th year option was declined Sammy was done here
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Like someone already mentioned....as soon as 5th year option was declined Sammy was done here That was McDome's call all the way.
ALF Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Undoubtedly, the two Bills decision makers have had plenty of discussions this summer surrounding the possibility of trading Watkins. So, sure, McDermott didn’t know the timing of when a deal would go down, but he certainly must of have known that it could happen at some point, and perhaps game planned accordingly. This is apparently what transpired between Buffalo Bills general manager Brandon Beane and head coach Sean McDermott in the team’s first preseason game. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/8/16/16143096/brandon-beane-sammy-watkins-sean-mcdermott-trade-los-angeles-rams Edited August 17, 2017 by ALF
Rochesterfan Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 Trading your best young player for a draft pick is some vision. We have fans have no choice but to wait and see, but this will blow up in their face IMO. If it does it does, but considering the Bills did not want the 5th year option - I don't think they were planning on having him come back - it is a vision - get something for him rather than letting him go for nothing.
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