Cherrybone Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 When the season starts and Tyrod is struggling through 3 to 4 games I'd pull him and insert Peterman. Here's my reasoning. To start Tyrod is a veteran and if you're 3 to 4 games down and there's no improvement on Tyrod's part then just accept the fact that he is what he is and that's below average for his experience. Now to Peterman. See what you have in him for the remainder of the season. He may be the future and he may not. At the worst he's a back up. However if he end up showing promise then it allows the Bills to use those draft picks on a wr, and some o-line help. Bottom line is those picks could be better used getting a quality vet at a position of need or draft a future star. At the end of the day knowing what you have in Peterman helps tremendously. There are still holes to fill.
CWink07 Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Assuming the Bills also only have like 1 win at that point, they might as well go Peterman. They have set up Taylor to struggle by sending away his top asset anyway, so they might as well embrace the tank too.
teef Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 i'm just not sure there would be much reason to pull him. my only concern is that peterman isn't ready for game time, and let's let the guy actually learn the game a bit before throwing him to the wolves. maybe he needs time, maybe he doesn't, but i'd be surprised if we saw peterman for any reason other than an injury.
Buffalo Boy Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Yup!!! However, what is the over/ under on the "We still have s chance at the playoff threads." At that point? Edited August 16, 2017 by Buffalo Boy
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 The first 3-4 games is a rough stretch for us offensively. It's very possible not only TT but the whole offense struggles. If that is the case, would it be fair to pull TT because our offensive line is giving up sacks left and right? What does that accomplish? If it is clear that TT is the issue, then your argument can be made to audition peterman. But my thought on the topic is that those defenses, especially Denver, will be a tough game for everyone and an unfair measure if QB play
KellyToughII Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 i'm just not sure there would be much reason to pull him. my only concern is that peterman isn't ready for game time, and let's let the guy actually learn the game a bit before throwing him to the wolves. maybe he needs time, maybe he doesn't, but i'd be surprised if we saw peterman for any reason other than an injury. Teef, I agree and disagree. The only true way to develop is to play. That said, he does need a little more time. I think by mid season if we are sub .500 and TT is still holding the ball etc, then put Peterman in with a limited playbook. Start with what they know are his strengths, then add a little. They need to know what they have in him. IF there is a possibility in THIS offense, he can be the answer, then great! We have tons of draft ammo to help upgrade the talent. If he isn't and or they feel he is just a great backup, then again we have the ammo to try and acquire a franchise QB in the upcoming draft. If you don't play him, you won't know.
teef Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Teef, I agree and disagree. The only true way to develop is to play. That said, he does need a little more time. I think by mid season if we are sub .500 and TT is still holding the ball etc, then put Peterman in with a limited playbook. Start with what they know are his strengths, then add a little. They need to know what they have in him. IF there is a possibility in THIS offense, he can be the answer, then great! We have tons of draft ammo to help upgrade the talent. If he isn't and or they feel he is just a great backup, then again we have the ammo to try and acquire a franchise QB in the upcoming draft. If you don't play him, you won't know. i can't say i disagree with any of this. i certainly don't mind playing him, but if they do i would hope it wouldn't before the second half as you mentioned. i just assume this is tyrod's last year here, so at this point, i'm willing to try anything.
Jauronimo Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 When the season starts and Tyrod is struggling through 3 to 4 games I'd pull him and insert Peterman. Here's my reasoning. To start Tyrod is a veteran and if you're 3 to 4 games down and there's no improvement on Tyrod's part then just accept the fact that he is what he is and that's below average for his experience. Now to Peterman. See what you have in him for the remainder of the season. He may be the future and he may not. At the worst he's a back up. However if he end up showing promise then it allows the Bills to use those draft picks on a wr, and some o-line help. Bottom line is those picks could be better used getting a quality vet at a position of need or draft a future star. At the end of the day knowing what you have in Peterman helps tremendously. There are still holes to fill. Of your 85 posts, what percentage would you estimate are starting new threads? My guess is 50%.
North Buffalo Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Holy duplicate threads Batman... Someone needs a hug today. Edited August 16, 2017 by North Buffalo
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 You don't pull Tyrod until you are completely out of playoff contention, or he is sucking so bad that he is the primary reason you are losing. The latter won't happen. What is this thread about again?
Bills757 Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) You don't pull Tyrod until you are completely out of playoff contention, or he is sucking so bad that he is the primary reason you are losing. The latter won't happen. What is this thread about again? The thread is about the backup being the possible savior.....until he get's in and stinks up the joint, then people will be calling for Yates....lauding what a great job he did (for a while) in Houston....how he knows Dennison's offense....then it'll be about a college QB who's never taken an NFL snap.....about how certain college QB's are DEFINITELY franchise QB's....until they arrive and stink up the joint....then they're considered a bust.....and those same posters will then say it's because we're Buffalo. Wash, rinse, repeat....no patience and no idea how hard it is to be a starting NFL QB. Edited August 16, 2017 by Bills757
Scott7975 Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Why don't we start these threads after Tyrod stinks it up instead of before they have even played one game. For all anyone knows Peterman could stink up the joint tomorrow. Edited August 16, 2017 by Scott7975
Webster Guy Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Tyrod had a better qb rating than Rivers, Big Ben, Russel Wilson, Carr etc. last year. He's a good NFL qb who averaged 25+ points per game last year with lots of hurt receivers. He's fun to watch and scares other defenses, usually they have to keep a spy in to prevent scrambling which opens up the passing field. I he had a good defense and kicking game last year we win 10 games. He's not getting benched if he's healthy unless it's late in the season. Peterman needs a year, not a few months.
aristocrat Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 what if we start 3-0? do we still pull tyrod?
Jauronimo Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Why don't we start these threads after Tyrod stinks it up instead of before they have even played one game. For all anyone knows Peterman could stink up the joint tomorrow. I don't think the issue with this thread is the timing. Its more of an existential question. Should it exist at all?
LeGOATski Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Like others have said, let's actually let Peterman learn and develop. He can still compete next year, no matter who they draft. We already know Tyrod can lead a good offense with a potent running attack. Don't expect much of a drop off, if at all.
mead107 Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Another new thread on Tyrod. Every time something enters our mind about Tyrod we need a new thread???
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 what if we start 3-0? do we still pull tyrod? Yes, of course. Because Peterman played well in a preseason game against the 4th string defense.
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