YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Good -no, great- stuff on Zay (route running) Also love to see much a superstar like Shady embraces camp http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-2017-buffalo-bills-training-camp-awards As is the tradition here on WKBW.com, at the conclusion of training camp we hand out the annual Training Camp Awards to the players that stood out for the right, and the wrong reasons this summer. To the awards we go! Edited August 16, 2017 by YoloinOhio
Kirby Jackson Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) I'm feeling a little vindicated for my Yates hot takes a few weeks back. Don't mind me while I dance in the end zone... Edited August 16, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
Big C Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Good -no, great- stuff on Zay (route running) Also love to see much a superstar like Shady embraces camp http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-2017-buffalo-bills-training-camp-awards The stuff about Shady illustrates, at least in part, why trading Sammy does not mean we are tanking. I believe full that the offense goes through Shady first and foremost and I'm sure he showed as much in camp. I still think we are fielding a good team this year. As far as LVPs go, Yates is a guy a lot of us (especially Kirby) really didn't want to see on the 53 and thankfully Natey P is helping out there. Would much rather carry two guys. Realistically we can cut Yates and he'll be there to re-sign if, heaven forbid, TT goes down and we need him as a backup. Ducasse is a guy whose signing still puzzles me and I hope to see him gone as well. Ragland underperforming is the only disappointment of the bunch, but the book isn't written on him just yet. Would like to see him make progress in the final three games because for all the questions going into this year at LB, next year is going to be even more... questionable? Preston is on the last year of his deal and Hodges is on a one-year deal. Depending on their performances we could see one or both extended, but it would help us out if Reggie could fill at least the backup role next year. I'm feeling a little vindicated for my Yates hot takes a few weeks back. Ha, I mentioned you in my post only to find you quickly came through to post about it yourself. Truly I think those were only hot takes in how angry you were at the thought of Yates being on the roster come September, but your reasoning was entirely sound. We just needed Peterman to show something on the field and he's doing just that!
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2017 Author Posted August 16, 2017 Anyone want to predict the 53 using this as a starting point?
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 I'm feeling a little vindicated for my Yates hot takes a few weeks back. Don't mind me while I dance in the end zone... With all due respect Kirby, anyone who has ever seen Yates play NFL football knew he kinda sucks. Nice guy though!
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Good -no, great- stuff on Zay (route running) Also love to see much a superstar like Shady embraces camp http://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/joe-b-2017-buffalo-bills-training-camp-awards Joe Bs take on Zay is quite encouraging... too bad now he'll need a hip replacement or something
Big C Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Anyone want to predict the 53 using this as a starting point? I'll take a crack. QB (2) - Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman RB (3) - LeSean McCoy, Jonathan Williams, Mike Tolbert FB (1) - Patrick DeMarco WR (7) - Anquan Boldin, Zay Jones, Jordan Mattews, Andre Holmes, Corey Brown, Rod Streater, Brandon Tate TE (3) - Charles Clay, Nick O'Leary, Logan Thomas OT (3) - Cordy Glenn, Jordan Mills, Dion Dawkins OG (4) - Richie Incognito, John Miller, Michael Ola, Jordan Mudge C (2) - Eric Wood, Ryan Groy DE (4) - Shaq Lawson, Jerry Hughes, Eddie Yarbrough, Max Valles DT (4) - Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Adolphus Washington, Jerel Worthy LB (7) - Preston Brown, Lorenzo Alexander, Ramon Humber, Gerald Hodges, Reggie Ragland, Tanner Vallejo, Matt Milano CB (5) - Tre'Davious White, EJ Gaines, Kevon Seymour, Leonard Johnson, Shareece Wright S (5) - Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Shamiel Gary, Bacarri Rambo, Colt Anderson K (1) - Steven Hauschka P (1) - Colton Schmidt LS (1) - Reid Ferguson Suspended - Seantrel Henderson, Walter Powell When Seantrel and Walt return, I would cut Mudge and Holmes. We'd have cut Davis, Ducasse and Holmes for the 3rd round comp pick. Think Tate has the KR and PR job outright and he will suit up mostly for that purpose, which is why I have 7 WRs on the roster. Don't think they will keep on Banyard or any of those other RBs. From the first preseason game it was clear they intend to use Tolbert as a RB and he looked good. Edited August 16, 2017 by Big C
Kirby Jackson Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) With all due respect Kirby, anyone who has ever seen Yates play NFL football knew he kinda sucks. Nice guy though!Ha ha, I know where you stand on the topic. Go back to that thread and there were people talking about him pushing for the starting job. I was called pigheaded, a crusader, someone else said that It was sour grapes over Cardale getting traded (despite the fact that I linked posts from April to dump Yates). MULTIPLE PEOPLE believe that he is a better player than Kaep. No one advocated Kaepernick but to act like Yates is better is beyond ridiculous. Here we stand 2 1/2 weeks later and I don't see anyone banging the table for Yates anymore. Edited August 16, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2017 Author Posted August 16, 2017 I'll take a crack. QB (2) - Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman RB (3) - LeSean McCoy, Jonathan Williams, Mike Tolbert FB (1) - Patrick DeMarco WR (7) - Anquan Boldin, Zay Jones, Jordan Mattews, Andre Holmes, Corey Brown, Rod Streater, Brandon Tate TE (3) - Charles Clay, Nick O'Leary, Logan Thomas OT (3) - Cordy Glenn, Jordan Mills, Dion Dawkins OG (4) - Richie Incognito, John Miller, Michael Ola, Jordan Mudge C (2) - Eric Wood, Ryan Groy DE (4) - Shaq Lawson, Jerry Hughes, Eddie Yarbrough, Max Valles DT (4) - Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Adolphus Washington, Jerel Worthy LB (7) - Preston Brown, Lorenzo Alexander, Ramon Humber, Gerald Hodges, Reggie Ragland, Tanner Vallejo, Matt Milano CB (5) - Tre'Davious White, EJ Gaines, Kevon Seymour, Leonard Johnson, Shareece Wright S (5) - Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Shamiel Gary, Bacarri Rambo, Colt Anderson K (1) - Steven Hauschka P (1) - Colton Schmidt LS (1) - Reid Ferguson Suspended - Seantrel Henderson, Walter Powell When Seantrel and Walt return, I would cut Mudge and Holmes. We'd have cut Davis, Ducasse and Holmes for the 3rd round comp pick. Think Tate has the KR and PR job outright and he will suit up mostly for that purpose, which is why I have 7 WRs on the roster. Don't think they will keep on Banyard or any of those other RBs. From the first preseason game it was clear they intend to use Tolbert as a RB and he looked good. i would be surprised if that's not spot on. Well done.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 I'll take a crack. QB (2) - Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman RB (3) - LeSean McCoy, Jonathan Williams, Mike Tolbert FB (1) - Patrick DeMarco WR (7) - Anquan Boldin, Zay Jones, Jordan Mattews, Andre Holmes, Corey Brown, Rod Streater, Brandon Tate TE (3) - Charles Clay, Nick O'Leary, Logan Thomas OT (3) - Cordy Glenn, Jordan Mills, Dion Dawkins OG (4) - Richie Incognito, John Miller, Michael Ola, Jordan Mudge C (2) - Eric Wood, Ryan Groy DE (4) - Shaq Lawson, Jerry Hughes, Eddie Yarbrough, Max Valles DT (4) - Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Adolphus Washington, Jerel Worthy LB (7) - Preston Brown, Lorenzo Alexander, Ramon Humber, Gerald Hodges, Reggie Ragland, Tanner Vallejo, Matt Milano CB (5) - Tre'Davious White, EJ Gaines, Kevon Seymour, Leonard Johnson, Shareece Wright S (5) - Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Shamiel Gary, Bacarri Rambo, Colt Anderson K (1) - Steven Hauschka P (1) - Colton Schmidt LS (1) - Reid Ferguson Suspended - Seantrel Henderson, Walter Powell When Seantrel and Walt return, I would cut Mudge and Holmes. We'd have cut Davis, Ducasse and Holmes for the 3rd round comp pick. Think Tate has the KR and PR job outright and he will suit up mostly for that purpose, which is why I have 7 WRs on the roster. Don't think they will keep on Banyard or any of those other RBs. From the first preseason game it was clear they intend to use Tolbert as a RB and he looked good. Really nice guess....this is close
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 I'll take a crack. QB (2) - Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman RB (3) - LeSean McCoy, Jonathan Williams, Mike Tolbert FB (1) - Patrick DeMarco WR (7) - Anquan Boldin, Zay Jones, Jordan Mattews, Andre Holmes, Corey Brown, Rod Streater, Brandon Tate TE (3) - Charles Clay, Nick O'Leary, Logan Thomas OT (3) - Cordy Glenn, Jordan Mills, Dion Dawkins OG (4) - Richie Incognito, John Miller, Michael Ola, Jordan Mudge C (2) - Eric Wood, Ryan Groy DE (4) - Shaq Lawson, Jerry Hughes, Eddie Yarbrough, Max Valles DT (4) - Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Adolphus Washington, Jerel Worthy LB (7) - Preston Brown, Lorenzo Alexander, Ramon Humber, Gerald Hodges, Reggie Ragland, Tanner Vallejo, Matt Milano CB (5) - Tre'Davious White, EJ Gaines, Kevon Seymour, Leonard Johnson, Shareece Wright S (5) - Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Shamiel Gary, Bacarri Rambo, Colt Anderson K (1) - Steven Hauschka P (1) - Colton Schmidt LS (1) - Reid Ferguson Suspended - Seantrel Henderson, Walter Powell When Seantrel and Walt return, I would cut Mudge and Holmes. We'd have cut Davis, Ducasse and Holmes for the 3rd round comp pick. Think Tate has the KR and PR job outright and he will suit up mostly for that purpose, which is why I have 7 WRs on the roster. Don't think they will keep on Banyard or any of those other RBs. From the first preseason game it was clear they intend to use Tolbert as a RB and he looked good. That's pretty damn close I think!
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2017 Author Posted August 16, 2017 Here are Chris Brown's awards ... great to see the stuff on Hodges and Jwill in particular http://m.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/2017-Bills-Training-Camp-Awards/71bf91e1-4e50-4dab-9a62-1bf0906f2e9a
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 That's pretty damn close I think! I also think its close....two things to consider They cannot be happy with the OT situation.....I think they will be looking very close at veteran cuts from other teams The bills have shown they are amassing draft picks......they only player left on that roster that prevents another 3rd rounder is holmz......I think in the end he is cut not only because of the comp pick but also because has not looked good in camp
Big C Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 I also think its close....two things to consider They cannot be happy with the OT situation.....I think they will be looking very close at veteran cuts from other teams The bills have shown they are amassing draft picks......they only player left on that roster that prevents another 3rd rounder is holmz......I think in the end he is cut not only because of the comp pick but also because has not looked good in camp Agreed about OT. Cutting Cyrus looks like a mistake right now. They had better hope Cordy can make it through the season or both Mills and Dawkins have to step up big time. I've seen enough of Seantrel looking OK in camp and flopping in games not to trust him as a starter at this point (as much as I respect his dedication to getting his weight right and fighting through Crohn's). I'm kind of hoping Brandon Albert just retired to get away from Marrone and might be willing to sign on with us if Cordy can't go. Still remaining hopeful about Cordy. As far as Holmes goes, you'll see I've labeled him as a cut after week 4. As far as we know, that's good enough to still pick up that comp pick.
JerseyBills Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 The stuff about Shady illustrates, at least in part, why trading Sammy does not mean we are tanking. I believe full that the offense goes through Shady first and foremost and I'm sure he showed as much in camp. I still think we are fielding a good team this year. As far as LVPs go, Yates is a guy a lot of us (especially Kirby) really didn't want to see on the 53 and thankfully Natey P is helping out there. Would much rather carry two guys. Realistically we can cut Yates and he'll be there to re-sign if, heaven forbid, TT goes down and we need him as a backup. Ducasse is a guy whose signing still puzzles me and I hope to see him gone as well. Ragland underperforming is the only disappointment of the bunch, but the book isn't written on him just yet. Would like to see him make progress in the final three games because for all the questions going into this year at LB, next year is going to be even more... questionable? Preston is on the last year of his deal and Hodges is on a one-year deal. Depending on their performances we could see one or both extended, but it would help us out if Reggie could fill at least the backup role next year. Ha, I mentioned you in my post only to find you quickly came through to post about it yourself. Truly I think those were only hot takes in how angry you were at the thought of Yates being on the roster come September, but your reasoning was entirely sound. We just needed Peterman to show something on the field and he's doing just that! Absolutely. I feel McB,Beane,Dennison realized Sammy is expendable because of Shady . I anticipate him used much more in the pass game and heavy PA, which last year, caused lbs and s almost always biting because they are so worried about Shady AND Taylor. There's really not much you can do to prepare for that combo leading up to the week. PA will be Taylors bread and butter, let our big targets sit in the open spots and move the chains. Shady is a rare player, top 10 on offense imo, would be extremely hard to replace his impact.
SteveFreeman22 Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) No way they are keeping 7 wrs, maybe 6 but i'd say 5...Matthews (if he's not on ir ) boldin , jones, tate, streater. and only 4 safties. Edited August 16, 2017 by SteveFreeman22
Blokestradamus Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) I'm feeling a little vindicated for my Yates hot takes a few weeks back. Don't mind me while I dance in the end zone... In this circumstance, the defense hadn't even taken the field to stop you The most important award remains unanswered though - did we win the offseason? Edited August 16, 2017 by Blokestradamus
Kirby Jackson Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 In this circumstance, the defense hadn't even taken the field to stop you The most important award remains unanswered though - did we win the offseason? We were "in the hunt" until last week
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Awards are for winners. We have no winners this offseason!!
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