KingRex Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 In today's Pardon the Interruption Sow (PTI is an ESPN hot stove argument show which I probably like cause Wilbon and I went to the Jesuit H.S) on of the discussion pieces was a rare dip into the Buffalo pro sports team pool. They discussed in this short segment whether trading Watkins made sense. They concluded no because: A: Its a win now league and Sammy recovered from injury is gonna be more productive than his replacement. They heralded Watkins achievements during his brief healthy time and theorized that even the threat he poses likely makes the O and his fellow WRs more productive players. B. The key to the Bills being better is trusting the process and given that over the last decade and a half plus shows that the ownership has been insufficient to run a process which can win. Unfortunately, I think they might be right. Stocking up draft choices might be fun for us armchair GMs, but there is no evidence to indicate the process will work. Sadly.
Big C Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 B. The key to the Bills being better is trusting the process and given that over the last decade and a half plus shows that the ownership has been insufficient to run a process which can win. But wait... isn't that what we're all about now?
PromoTheRobot Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) In today's Pardon the Interruption Sow (PTI is an ESPN hot stove argument show which I probably like cause Wilbon and I went to the Jesuit H.S) on of the discussion pieces was a rare dip into the Buffalo pro sports team pool. They discussed in this short segment whether trading Watkins made sense. They concluded no because: A: Its a win now league and Sammy recovered from injury is gonna be more productive than his replacement. They heralded Watkins achievements during his brief healthy time and theorized that even the threat he poses likely makes the O and his fellow WRs more productive players. B. The key to the Bills being better is trusting the process and given that over the last decade and a half plus shows that the ownership has been insufficient to run a process which can win. Unfortunately, I think they might be right. Stocking up draft choices might be fun for us armchair GMs, but there is no evidence to indicate the process will work. Sadly. Did they note that ownership is not Ralph Wilson anymore? If you don't trust your GM to find talent then Pegula might as well sell the team and let them move. Pick a lane. Either you build through the draft, or build through free agency. There is no option C. Edited August 14, 2017 by PromoTheRobot
clayboy54 Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Wilbon & Kornheiser make absolutely no sense to me, either. Interesting! Edited August 14, 2017 by clayboy54
CommonCents Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Did they note that ownership is not Ralph Wilson anymore? If you don't trust your GM to find talent then Pegula might as well sell the team and let them move. Pick a lane. Either you build through the draft, or build through free agency. There is no option C. You build through the draft or FA? You can do both? Both option C. Edited August 14, 2017 by Commonsense
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 Well that settles everything. Do we know what Skip Bayless, Lebatard's dad and Sarah spain think yet?
klos63 Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 You build through the draft or FA? You can do both? Both option C. C
Bills4everNY Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 I can't take anybody seriously whose name is Kornheiser.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Well that settles everything. Do we know what Skip Bayless, Lebatard's dad and Sarah spain think yet? Lol! How about Michael and Jemelle? I can't take Kornholder seriously... guy is a joke.
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 If you think anybody supports this trade I have land in the ever-glands to sell you. Mr. Beane, press conference was more baffling, he actually thought he was going to be labeled a genius but unlike the bills everyone outside of one bills drive think he is an idiot. If the Bills make the playoffs and do very well with the players they got and he hits on home runs in the draft, well he will be looked at like Einstein, but if everything goes south and Sammie becomes Jerry Rice, this franchise will never recover. I feel really terrible right now about this trade because many Bills fans remember the issue with Ted Washington could not stay in his career all of sudden Wad Phillips becomes Defensive coordinator tells John Butler to sign him and the rest as they say is history.
akm0404 Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 B. The key to the Bills being better is trusting the process and given that over the last decade and a half plus shows that the ownership has been insufficient to run a process which can win. That last decade and a half with ownership eh? Weird how in every other sport non-contending/rebuilding teams trade their players under expiring contracts as rentals to acquire other assets, but Because Buffalo, yada yada 4 Super Bowl losses yada Ralph is cheap.
Beast Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Unfortunately, I think they might be right. Stocking up draft choices might be fun for us armchair GMs, but there is no evidence to indicate the process will work. Sadly. You know what, you're absolutely right. The last time the Bills really stocked up on draft picks was 1985. Two each in each of the first four rounds. They were terrible the next year and went 2-14!!! It's no wonder when they drafted stiffs like Bruce Smith, Derrick Burroughs, Chris Burkett, Frank Reich and Andre Reed. They didn't start winning until three years after that draft! They were clueless. Edited August 15, 2017 by Binghamton Beast
Real McClappy Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) If you think anybody supports this trade I have land in the ever-glands to sell you. Mr. Beane, press conference was more baffling, he actually thought he was going to be labeled a genius but unlike the bills everyone outside of one bills drive think he is an idiot. If the Bills make the playoffs and do very well with the players they got and he hits on home runs in the draft, well he will be looked at like Einstein, but if everything goes south and Sammie becomes Jerry Rice, this franchise will never recover. I feel really terrible right now about this trade because many Bills fans remember the issue with Ted Washington could not stay in his career all of sudden Wad Phillips becomes Defensive coordinator tells John Butler to sign him and the rest as they say is history. Just about 90% of non Buffalo Bills fans think the we made a horrible move for what we gave up to acquire Watkins. I have tried to think through this trade on every angle and cannot come up with one way to support it at all since it was made last week. It was a flat out bad/stupid trade. Right up there with the Eagles giving us McCoy for Kiko. Watkins for Gaines WTF? Even the Pats gave up a first for Cooks... SMH Edited August 15, 2017 by Real McCoy
ocemur Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 I seriously doubt either one could name five guys on the team without a lot of head scratching and wrong guesses. They're covering all sports, so their knowledge and analysis is a mile wide and an inch deep. Ask them when Sammy's first injury as a pro was or how many games he averages per season. Without even debating the trade in this post, these guys' opinions are less informed than most of the posters here.
Ezduzit420 Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Did they note that ownership is not Ralph Wilson anymore? If you don't trust your GM to find talent then Pegula might as well sell the team and let them move. Pick a lane. Either you build through the draft, or build through free agency. There is no option C. Build through Free agency? Were talking about Buffalo. Scratch plan B.
Beast Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Just about 90% of non Buffalo Bills fans thinks the we made a horrible move for what we gave up to acquire Watkins. I have tried to think through this trade on every angle and cannot come up with one way to support it at all since it was made last week. It was a flat out bad/stupid trade. Right up there with the Eagles giving us McCoy for Kiko. Watkins for Gaines WTF? Even the Pats gave up a first for Cooks... SMH And the diffeence is that the Patriots have an OK QB to make a move like that. But you want to double down on Whaley's draft day blunder and pay Watkins serious cash all the while we still don't have what we need under center. Also......we got a 2nd along with Gaines.
Captain Murica Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Shouldn't take anything on a sports talk show seriously, especially ESPN. They're basically on the same level as us fans if not worst.
BUFFALOKIE Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Tgis one time, in band camp, I posted JAT (Just Another Thread).
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Shouldn't take anything on a sports talk show seriously, especially ESPN. They're basically on the same level as us fans if not worst. They are worse than Bills fans. At least some of us were/are athletes.
CanadianFan Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Audio for the segment: https://youtu.be/R-6cE5qkvXU?t=15m16s
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