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I'm fairly high on Garoppolo. I don't see him turning into a dud like Cassel. The 2018 off-season will be interesting for the Pats. I'm a little worried about his durability since he was injured after only playing 1 and a half games last year.

 

Please, no thanks, I don't see him as a starter much less a franchise guy. Let's take our shot at the rooks coming out.

I'm glad someone said this. The average Bills fan probably thinks that Belichick is more around 75% successful hitting on draft picks.

 

 

BB has had the luxury of a HOF and sturdy QB - and one that moves his contract numbers around to keep the rest of the team viable. You can shoot 50% in the draft, trade them when they have the most value and restock and still win with a great QB. No Brady and BB is not a genius, but a HOF coach for sure. Let's lose the god-like halo he has. He has the right system, right QB and a very good defensive mind. It adds up to success. Take away Brady and the Pats are a contending team year to year but not a dynasty.

Id pass on Cousins, I for one hope TT steps up so we can keep all those draft picks

 

That's a big hope - and not realistic. We've seen TT's ceiling. He's the best QB we've had since Kelly, but not a guy you build the franchise on. I don't denigrate him. I'm happy to have him, but let's be realistic.

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What if there are two "can't mss" QB prospects and the two teams at the top of the draft want those QBs and refuse to trade out. Then what?

 

All the better if SF has a top two pick this year. But what if cousins has a down year and SF prefers a draftee to him? Point of the thread is that the bills have options that improve if the FA QBs play well.

So now we need to not only cheer for the Bills to do bad, we also need to cheer for the guys we want to get next year to have a bad year too?

 

I plan to root for us to win as many games as possible and Hotrod to have a great year. I know that messes things up, but that's what I'm rooting for anyway.

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So now we need to not only cheer for the Bills to do bad, we also need to cheer for the guys we want to get next year to have a bad year too?

 

I plan to root for us to win as many games as possible and Hotrod to have a great year. I know that messes things up, but that's what I'm rooting for anyway.

You miss the point. Assuming the redskins don't tag him again, the better cousins plays the better shape we're in. He might be the key to the whole "thing."

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Allen or Darnold are the two franchise type qbs coming out next year. Others have more to prove like Rudolph, and others are overrated right now Rosen and Jackson.

I completely agree. Darnold, Allen and Falk will be the top 3. Rosen will flame out.

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You do understand that in order to move up another team has to be willing to trade. It doesn't automatically happen.

You do understand that every year, teams trade out of the draft position they're in?

 

All it takes is a team to have a bad year with a recently drafted QB already playing for them. It's just as likely we move up as it is that we land a big FA signing or that Tyrod succeeds this year under the new system.

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You do understand that every year, teams trade out of the draft position they're in?

 

All it takes is a team to have a bad year with a recently drafted QB already playing for them. It's just as likely we move up as it is that we land a big FA signing or that Tyrod succeeds this year under the new system.

So I'll pose the question: suppose that the NYJ and SF draft 1 and 2 next year, that neither team likes a QB in the free agent class/trade class, and that there are only two franchise QBs in the draft. Do you really expect either of those teams to trade out of their respective spots?

 

Along those lines, I know a guy who rented in the Main-Seneca building downtown. It recently was purchased by a guy whose redevelopment plan relied on the purchase of the parking garage next to the baseball stadium and adjacent to the seneca one tower. The developer was "going to" purchase the garage -- he assumed he would get it -- until Doug Jemal came along. So much as the developer shouldn't have assumed he would get that garage, we shouldn't assume we will be able to trade into a position to draft a ranchise QB.

 

What this really comes down to is if cousins plays lights out, or if somebody falls in love with garrapolo, and if we aren't in position to draft one if the top QBs, it's reasonable to suggest that a team in position to so draft might like the idea of cousins + the bills' draft bounty better than darnold, etc. and no draft bounty. A team in that position that takes cousins might come out of next year's draft with six good new starters -- free agent QB, two bills firsts, two bills seconds, and own second. That might be our best path to a franchise QB -- without tanking this season.

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Riduculous trades that won't ever happen, knowledge of football other than video game ratings, I can go on and on but it's not worth it and who am I, right?

I'm part of the madden generation. Not sure if you're targeting me, but there is nothing ridiculous in my analysis. For what it's worth it appears to be the path our team is taking.

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They are building for the future. They will not use al those assets in a single draft. Best case scenario they draft five players and keep making moves in the draft - DOWN. They can get 5 players, and pick up more draft picks in 2019. That is how they build a long term winner. Not by giving away picks to move up only a few spots.

 

60% chance TT is the QB in 2018.

20% chance it is a FA

20 % chance it is a rookie first round draft pick

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Barkley would have been a number one pick if he didn't stay too long. Even Darnold runs that risk. Injuries are always a concern as well. I'm not saying that you're incorrect, I just think that it wouldn't be in his best interest to stay.

 

LOLZ...

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