MAJBobby Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Pretty much. But that $15M/year is a big sticking point. Who cares. He sits this year and is cut. McD just said short term gains can hurt future results or something like that. So take your own freaking advice.
Mikie's Bills Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Denver should be the target at mid season if that is the plan. They should be willing to give up a higher pick than anyone else. I could even see a 1st if they are thinking QB is the one thing holding them back from another Super Bowl. Denver, Houston, Arizona, Minnesota are the first few that pop to mind when I think of playoff caliber rosters with either questionable QB play or injury prone QBs. Hopefully Taylor can get back on the field soon to show he's healthy. If Peterman is gonna be thrown into the fire the Jets at home is the best case scenario.
MAJBobby Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I think they are hoping to showcase Tyrod the first half of the season and are waiting for a playoff contender to come down with an injured/underachieving QB. And then trade him for more picks. Same deal with Shady if they're willing to deal with the dead money. Showcase? He has two years of tape. What are they gonna showcase that the league already doesnt know about him?
Lurker Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 McD just gave his presser. Did it sound like Peterman is starting Sunday to anyone else? It did to me. Wednesday is decision day as that's when the offfensive game plan goes in. If TT is still in protocol today, it seems like a stretch to say his noggin will be OK two days from now...
MAJBobby Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) 9/4/17, 10:58 AM @SalSports @addthis Peterman will be the starter and hold on to the job It did to me. Wednesday is decision day as that's when the offfensive game plan goes in. If TT is still in protocol today, it seems like a stretch to say his noggin will be OK two days from now... If you take him at his word (i am not sure i do) it seems like it is Petermans job for all 16 as at this point it should be. They are clearly playing for the future Edited September 4, 2017 by MAJBobby
HappyDays Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Denver, Houston, Arizona, Minnesota are the first few that pop to mind when I think of playoff caliber rosters with either questionable QB play or injury prone QBs. Hopefully Taylor can get back on the field soon to show he's healthy. If Peterman is gonna be thrown into the fire the Jets at home is the best case scenario. Maybe Jacksonville? The AFC South is comically bad so if they're in reach of the division title they could part with a 2nd maybe. Houston would be a good one but I think they're just gonna stick with Watson and build around him. A mistake for them IMO but I don't see them as realistic trade partners. I wouldn't mind Peterman starting against the Jets. They are so bad, it would be similar talent to what Peterman has seen in the preseason. If there is a question on Tyrod's head hold him out the extra week. If we can't beat the Jets with Peterman starting we aren't going to do make any noise this year anyways.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Maybe Jacksonville? The AFC South is comically bad so if they're in reach of the division title they could part with a 2nd maybe. Houston would be a good one but I think they're just gonna stick with Watson and build around him. A mistake for them IMO but I don't see them as realistic trade partners. I wouldn't mind Peterman starting against the Jets. They are so bad, it would be similar talent to what Peterman has seen in the preseason. If there is a question on Tyrod's head hold him out the extra week. If we can't beat the Jets with Peterman starting we aren't going to do make any noise this year anyways. Wrong. The Jets 1st team defense would present a challenge to Peterman.
Big Gun Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I think they are hoping to showcase Tyrod the first half of the season and are waiting for a playoff contender to come down with an injured/underachieving QB. And then trade him for more picks. Same deal with Shady if they're willing to deal with the dead money. Why would the Bills be showcasing Tyrod? Everybody has seen the goods or lack thereof with 29 starts worth of film on him. Pretty obvious nobody wants the guy or he would have been gone in the off season.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Wrong. The Jets 1st team defense would present a challenge to Peterman. We shall see how right or wrong that statement is 6 more days.
MAJBobby Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Either way Taylor should not see the Field again in a Bills uniform (pending peterman injury). And no i dont think Peterman is the long term answer but dont know for sure 16 NFL games sure would be nice to help in that evaluation Edited September 4, 2017 by MAJBobby
JaCrispy Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) 9/4/17, 10:58 AM @SalSports @addthis Peterman will be the starter and hold on to the job If you take him at his word (i am not sure i do) it seems like it is Petermans job for all 16 as at this point it should be. They are clearly playing for the future Is that speculation about Peterman being the starter?
Magox Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Wrong. The Jets 1st team defense would present a challenge to Peterman. yes it would. They are going to stack the box against the run and take away many of the inside the hashmarks throws that he is used to forcing him to make throws outside his comfort zone. I would expect him to have his struggles with hopefully enough success with a good defensive effort to win the game. Is that speculation about Peterman being the starter? yes
HappyDays Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Wrong. The Jets 1st team defense would present a challenge to Peterman. Their schemes would be new to him, their talent really will not be that much better than he has seen. There is a reason the Bills are favored by 9 even though no one knows who the starter will be. Vegas usually won't post a line if a QB's status is unknown but the Jets are really that bad.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Their schemes would be new to him, their talent really will not be that much better than he has seen. There is a reason the Bills are favored by 9 even though no one knows who the starter will be. Vegas usually won't post a line if a QB's status is unknown but the Jets are really that bad. Laughable. The Jets' DL even with the departure of Richardson is still a talented group. It's their offense that is particularly bad.
HappyDays Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Laughable. The Jets' DL even with the departure of Richardson is still a talented group. It's their offense that is particularly bad. They are obviously better than a generic preseason defense, I am just saying if you're going to progress from preseason to real NFL games the 2017 Jets would be the first logical step. If Peterman didn't perform at least decently well, as he has in preseason, my opinion of him would go down somewhat.
Mikie's Bills Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Showcase? He has two years of tape. What are they gonna showcase that the league already doesnt know about him? His health. Concussions have derailed many players careers across many sports. Why would the Bills be showcasing Tyrod? Everybody has seen the goods or lack thereof with 29 starts worth of film on him. Pretty obvious nobody wants the guy or he would have been gone in the off season. Showcase that he's healthy and in the right circumstances could play good enough football to take a team to the playoffs. Doesn't turn the football over, helps improve the run game, good TD:INT ratio, etc. He's not great but neither is Sam Bradford and he landed Philly a 1st rounder. I think a team with a good roster and a ? at QB whether it be injury or performance would give up a 2nd for Taylor if he proves he's healthy. JMO
Scott7975 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 McD just gave his presser. Did it sound like Peterman is starting Sunday to anyone else? Its a strong possibility that's for sure. It always was. Concussion protocol has no time frame. Players are ready to come back when they are ready. There is no standard heal time like say a broken bone or something. McD was asked if NP would be ready to face a regular season defense after only going up against vanilla schemes (paraphrasing here) and MCD said oh yeah, Nate is ready. Pretty much. But that $15M/year is a big sticking point. Money doesn't mean jack squat. Pete Carrol started Wilson after paying Flynn a ton. Dak Prescott stole the job from a 25 million dollar man. Maybe Jacksonville? The AFC South is comically bad so if they're in reach of the division title they could part with a 2nd maybe. Houston would be a good one but I think they're just gonna stick with Watson and build around him. A mistake for them IMO but I don't see them as realistic trade partners. I wouldn't mind Peterman starting against the Jets. They are so bad, it would be similar talent to what Peterman has seen in the preseason. If there is a question on Tyrod's head hold him out the extra week. If we can't beat the Jets with Peterman starting we aren't going to do make any noise this year anyways. Tank or no tank, the Jets still have a very good front seven.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Why would the Bills be showcasing Tyrod? Everybody has seen the goods or lack thereof with 29 starts worth of film on him. Pretty obvious nobody wants the guy or he would have been gone in the off season. ....survey the land....when guys like Smokin' Joe Webb, Kellen Clemons, Jimmy Pickle, etc are STILL drawing paychecks, why would this surprise you?.....BTW, our very own castoffs, EJ & Cardale BOTH made their respective final 53 rosters...
MAJBobby Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 His health. Concussions have derailed many players careers across many sports. Showcase that he's healthy and in the right circumstances could play good enough football to take a team to the playoffs. Doesn't turn the football over, helps improve the run game, good TD:INT ratio, etc. He's not great but neither is Sam Bradford and he landed Philly a 1st rounder. I think a team with a good roster and a ? at QB whether it be injury or performance would give up a 2nd for Taylor if he proves he's healthy. JMO Its just his 1st concussion. And he would have to pass a physical anyway. Like a conditional pick is really all any team would pay anyway.
Mikie's Bills Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Its just his 1st concussion. And he would have to pass a physical anyway. Like a conditional pick is really all any team would pay anyway. Depends on the situation. I remember a couple years ago the Cards were like 8-1 and then Palmer went down to a torn ACL. No one thought Philly would get a 1st for Bradford. The Texans could have one of the best rosters in the league but are relying on Tom Savage and Watson. Taylor's 2017 salary is low for a starting QB as well. New team would be on the hook for 7.5M IIRC (or less if pro-rated). This isn't like trying to trade Tony Romo's deal last year.
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