SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 the best remedy for a questionable O Line is to get the ball out of the QB's hands in under 2 seconds.
RyanC883 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Question: What if TT is cleared from the concussion protocol under 5 days prior to the game. Do you start him (he'll be rusty), or go with Peterman, who every day seems to be more in-sync with the WR's etc..
Magox Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Anything could happen, but this is the QB plan according to Beane: “He's our starter. Make no bones about it... he's gonna lead us out there and that's really all we're focused on. Nathan's a rookie. This takes time, that's a big jump. He's making his progressions, we think he's done a nice job. Tyrod has played in this league. He's started a lot of games. He deserves this opportunity, and that's really all we're focused on is him being our starter this year.” And this is the correct take by Beane. TT should be the starter and remain the starter up until we are out of the playoff hunt or if TT really struggles badly before that point. Hopefully it won't get to that. It's not an amateur take at all. They may end up being nothing alike but Trent Edwards came out of Stanford and was "known" for his quick release and decision making. His early success with the Bills was on a lot of short/quick routes, being quick to decide where to go with the ball and his quick release. He wasn't checking down in the beginning of his career. That sounds a lot like Peterman. And if you don't believe me go back and read what people had to say about Trent, there is plenty on this site and if you search via google. Or watch the games. He became Captain Checkdown after teams took away the short stuff and made him look for longer routes. He would get rattled and check down. It is an amateur take.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Just the way I see it for some reason. I can't see Tyrod having a good record after the 1st 6 games and and he may even be pulled (or injured) sooner. Ideally, I want Petermen starting week 1 with Tyrod going to Denver or Jax for a 2nd rounder. His career record as a starter is 15-14 and why would you forecast him being pulled with the coach and GM firmly stating that this is his time as the starter. Your want of Peterman as the starter with Tyrod traded for a 2nd is not realistic at all with the season 9 days away.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 why? because he might not fit the system the Head Coach wants to run that's why. you don't build a winning / playoff mentality with a guy who cant play in the scheme. No one has seen Taylor run the new scheme with any consistency
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 His career record as a starter is 15-14 and why would you forecast him being pulled with the coach and GM firmly stating that this is his time as the starter. Your want of Peterman as the starter with Tyrod traded for a 2nd is not realistic at all with the season 9 days away. thing is, his record really means little at this point. what matters is if he manages this offense successfully and that is no guarantee. the gm/hc are going to give the press and fans what they want to hear and not give any indication of a qb controversy, which there isn't at this time. peterman will start at some point whether it be the opener because taylors not cleared or if taylor were to stink up the joint, which both are very possible scenarios. overlooking that or ignoring it is really just a case of denial or the fact that you and some others don't want to see peterman under center this season. when the reality is, he likely will be at some point with so many variables.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 thing is, his record really means little at this point. what matters is if he manages this offense successfully and that is no guarantee. the gm/hc are going to give the press and fans what they want to hear and not give any indication of a qb controversy, which there isn't at this time. peterman will start at some point whether it be the opener because taylors not cleared or if taylor were to stink up the joint, which both are very possible scenarios. overlooking that or ignoring it is really just a case of denial or the fact that you and some others don't want to see peterman under center this season. when the reality is, he likely will be at some point with so many variables. You need to pay better attention or be quiet. I, along with many others who aren't clamoring for Peterman to start right away, have acknowledged that it's possible that he might start at some juncture this season. Likely? We'll see how the season develops.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 You need to pay better attention or be quiet. I, along with many others who aren't clamoring for Peterman to start right away, have acknowledged that it's possible that he might start at some juncture this season. Likely? We'll see how the season develops. who died and made you boss? carry on copy/paste man.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 who died and made you boss? carry on copy/paste man. Oh how that really hurts my feelings. It's not about being your boss, it's about you assigning falsity to someone when you're simply wrong. Study up son.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Oh how that really hurts my feelings. It's not about being your boss, it's about you assigning falsity to someone when you're simply wrong. Study up son. I'm not your son. I wont adhere to anything you post. you may think you're some important board member here and feel the need to tell someone what they should or shouldn't post. guess what, you're not. also, I've followed your posts on peterman and you have been pretty adamant about it so don't play the right and wrong game, your highness.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not your son. I wont adhere to anything you post. you may think you're some important board member here and feel the need to tell someone what they should or shouldn't post. guess what, you're not. also, I've followed your posts on peterman and you have been pretty adamant about it so don't play the right and wrong game, your highness. I couldn't care any less whether you adhere to what I post or not. I continue to be adamant that he shouldn't start right now and he won't unless Tyrod isn't recovered from his concussion. Where you are wrong is that I have acknowledged that it's possible that Peterman could play at some point this season. But post away as if you know.
D521646 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Well my take on NP is that earlier after PS Game 1 that there was no way he'd unseat Yates. Well, crow officially eaten, and he has impressed. Will he start this year? Again, barring injury it is unlikely, IMO. He shows promise, more so than EJ ever did, and I was an EJ fanboy for a time. I'd like to see how he handles regular season defenses, where teams will game-plan for his weaknesses. Things he does well, are the things that frustrate Bills fans about TT, but then TT does things that we haven't yet seen NP do, soooooo there's a big unknown about him at this point. I trust McD, and Beane to know who best to start, and I think TT, assuming he's healthy will in fact start against the Jets next week. Tim-
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Well my take on NP is that earlier after PS Game 1 that there was no way he'd unseat Yates. Well, crow officially eaten, and he has impressed. Will he start this year? Again, barring injury it is unlikely, IMO. He shows promise, more so than EJ ever did, and I was an EJ fanboy for a time. I'd like to see how he handles regular season defenses, where teams will game-plan for his weaknesses. Things he does well, are the things that frustrate Bills fans about TT, but then TT does things that we haven't yet seen NP do, soooooo there's a big unknown about him at this point. I trust McD, and Beane to know who best to start, and I think TT, assuming he's healthy will in fact start against the Jets next week. Tim- Perfectly reasonable take.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 wow someones feelings about Taylor are getting the better of him. go ahead, tell me to shut up too.
Wayne Cubed Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 It is an amateur take. Brilliant rebutal.
Magox Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Brilliant rebutal. I've already provided by response, I'm not going to repeat it for those that aren't able to see what I'm saying. If you think he's Trent Edwards 2, that is your opinion and it is my opinion that those who have that view on what we've seen from Peterman have amateur takes.
Doc Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Well my take on NP is that earlier after PS Game 1 that there was no way he'd unseat Yates. Well, crow officially eaten, and he has impressed. Will he start this year? Again, barring injury it is unlikely, IMO. He shows promise, more so than EJ ever did, and I was an EJ fanboy for a time. I'd like to see how he handles regular season defenses, where teams will game-plan for his weaknesses. Things he does well, are the things that frustrate Bills fans about TT, but then TT does things that we haven't yet seen NP do, soooooo there's a big unknown about him at this point. I trust McD, and Beane to know who best to start, and I think TT, assuming he's healthy will in fact start against the Jets next week. Tim- He'll start at the latest if/when the Bills are out of the playoff hunt. Similar to last season when they started EJ for the season finale.
Wayne Cubed Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I've already provided by response, I'm not going to repeat it for those that aren't able to see what I'm saying. If you think he's Trent Edwards 2, that is your opinion and it is my opinion that those who have that view on what we've seen from Peterman have amateur takes. I saw what you wrote and you mischaracterized Edwards in your original post and what he was asked to do with the Bills. That's not an opinion but sure base your opinion on that.
Magox Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I saw what you wrote and you mischaracterized Edwards in your original post and what he was asked to do with the Bills. That's not an opinion but sure base your opinion on that. Yes, that is an opinion. If you aren't able to tell the difference between a fact and an opinion, don't bother responding.
Wayne Cubed Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Yes, that is an opinion. If you aren't able to tell the difference between a fact and an opinion, don't bother responding. Edwards throwing to quick/short routes isn't an opinion, it's a fact, because that's in fact what happened. Just like Peterman is doing. He didn't initially throw to checked down routes and wasn't constantly checking down, which is what you stated. Only AFTER defenses took away his short stuff/quick read did he start to consistently check down. And he became Captain Checkdown. Sure the comparassion is an opinion, but then it's no more amateur than you dismissing it.
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