26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Who was that other Pitt QB that was drafted after 4 or 5 others? Now Peterman will be the next Dan Marino.
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) I think Beane was very involved in our draft. I think the verbal agreement was in place before the draft and just waited a little bit after to make it official. I am almost certain of this. We drafted I think 4 players that had visited Carolina before the draft but not us. Including the two we traded up for. Obviously McDermott and/or Beane were running the show, Whaley was just given a respectful exit. It will never be proven but all the evidence points that way. Edited August 31, 2017 by HappyDays
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I am almost certain of this. We drafted I think 4 players that had visited Carolina before the draft but not us. Including the two we traded up for. Obviously McDermott and/or Beane were running the show, Whaley was just given a respectful exit. It will never be proven but all the evidence points that way. I always wondered what was going through Whaley's mind. You know you're gone after the draft and another guy from another team is running it with the HC. I think he just set up the draft board, like wrote it on the white board and that was about it.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I am almost certain of this. We drafted I think 4 players that had visited Carolina before the draft but not us. Including the two we traded up for. Obviously McDermott and/or Beane were running the show, Whaley was just given a respectful exit. It will never be proven but all the evidence points that way. I always wondered what was going through Whaley's mind. You know you're gone after the draft and another guy from another team is running it with the HC. I think he just set up the draft board, like wrote it on the white board and that was about it.
billsfan60 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 If I'm a D Coordinator facing Nasty Nate, I blitz the peejeebers out of him (as I would all rookies). See if he goes 1 for 8 under pressure, ducks and Chuck's it into a crowd, or flat out drops the ball.And what if he goes 6 for 8 and picks that defense apart? What's the next fatal flaw to dig up on the kid. Jeez!
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Not sure what this is supposed to mean? Do you actually think Whaley ran the draft 2 days before he was fired?
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Not sure what this is supposed to mean? Do you actually think Whaley ran the draft 2 days before he was fired? Your conspiracy theory about Beane working with McDermott to select players for the Bills is entertaining. I'm sure McD was ducking out of sight to receive secret text messages about who select and what trades to make during the draft. Oh yeah, they did this in cahoots with Jerry Richardson.
Doc Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 I don't think they anticipated NP playing this well and TT playing this poorly up to this point. They have a tough decision should NP play well if TT can't go. If TT can't go, starting NP is an easy decision. And more importantly, one that can't be criticized by anyone. I think Beane was very involved in our draft. I think the verbal agreement was in place before the draft and just waited a little bit after to make it official. Could be.
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Your conspiracy theory about Beane working with McDermott to select players for the Bills is entertaining. I'm sure McD was ducking out of sight to receive secret text messages about who select and what trades to make during the draft. Oh yeah, they did this in cahoots with Jerry Richardson. McDermott was already employed by the Bills and knew Carolina's draft board. It is not nearly as far fetched as you seem to think. The far fetched belief is that a lame duck GM ran a draft where he took players that he hadn't visited with, players who the incoming HC/GM had visits with. Use some common sense, it's pretty obvious what happened here.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 McDermott was already employed by the Bills and knew Carolina's draft board. It is not nearly as far fetched as you seem to think. The far fetched belief is that a lame duck GM ran a draft where he took players that he hadn't visited with, players who the incoming HC/GM had visits with. Use some common sense, it's pretty obvious what happened here. Don't try to play your conspiracy theory off as common sense. It isn't. The Bills used their own draft board as set up by Whaley and the scouting staff. McDermott was instrumental in making the selections of course.
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Don't try to play your conspiracy theory off as common sense. It isn't. The Bills used their own draft board as set up by Whaley and the scouting staff. McDermott was instrumental in making the selections of course. How can it be true that we used Whaley's draft board but McDermott made the selections? That would mean McDermot was going off of his own draft board which is exactly what I think happened.
reddogblitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 And what if he goes 6 for 8 and picks that defense apart? What's the next fatal flaw to dig up on the kid. Jeez! I really wouldn't worry about that too much. His handling (or not) pressure is a HUGE red flag for me in his game along with his inaccuracy/consistency. I don't think he sucks or anything like that, he's just nowhere near ready to start an NFL game against a real defense that game plans against him, that's all. Best thing for him is he doesn't see the field this year. Don't rush it IMHO.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 How can it be true that we used Whaley's draft board but McDermott made the selections? That would mean McDermot was going off of his own draft board which is exactly what I think happened. So McDermott set up the Bills' 2017 draft board with Whaley and the scouts still on board just sitting around. None of the work they did all throughout the CFB season was considered and they just used McDermott's recollection of the Panthers' board to go on. Is that your contention?
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 So McDermott set up the Bills' 2017 draft board with Whaley and the scouts still on board just sitting around. None of the work they did all throughout the CFB season was considered and they just used McDermott's recollection of the Panthers' board to go on. Is that your contention? I mean, pretty much. The players we drafted clearly were not sought out by the Bills. They were sought out by Carolina. I don't know how to make it simpler. The scouts were never getting fired before the draft, that would be a huge mistake. What's weird is your belief that Pegula allowed a GM who he planned on firing to run a draft, using the draft board of scouts that he also planned on firing. How does that fit into your theory?
JM2009 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) I mean, pretty much. The players we drafted clearly were not sought out by the Bills. They were sought out by Carolina. I don't know how to make it simpler. The scouts were never getting fired before the draft, that would be a huge mistake. What's weird is your belief that Pegula allowed a GM who he planned on firing to run a draft, using the draft board of scouts that he also planned on firing. How does that fit into your theory? Just like the 2013 draft looked nothing like a Nix draft, the 2017 draft looked nothing like a Whaley draft. pretty easy to see why. Edited August 31, 2017 by JM2009
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 WGAS?!? It's preseason. If WGAS is true then why are people so harsh WRT Nate?
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 If WGAS is true then why are people so harsh WRT Nate? Nobody is being harsh. You are mistaking honest evaluation for unnecessary harshness for some odd reason.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 It is up to the coaches and FO to make the right call.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Don't try to play your conspiracy theory off as common sense. It isn't. The Bills used their own draft board as set up by Whaley and the scouting staff. McDermott was instrumental in making the selections of course. ....so the "Real Housewives of TBD" won't be aired anytime soon with all of the sabotage and conspiracy theories?.....deeply saddened.....was expecting new blonde wig avatars and Party City "balloons"...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Nobody is being harsh. You are mistaking honest evaluation for unnecessary harshness for some odd reason. I'd agree if I were talking to a Bills coach. Nothing better than a backup IMO is pure speculation at this point. Speculation isn't an honest evaluation. College and the NFL are very different. I like what I have seen and hope for the best. Time will tell.
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