SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 aaaand Seems like a lot of pressure and a quick pass
Zac Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Peterman has many a thing to work on as any rookie QB does. I do agree with what some people have said - his footwork and pocket presence is impressive. That matters a lot. He's rushing through everything though, which is a natural tendency. Way too early to say if he's anything, but i've seen enough positives to not put a ceiling on him yet.
reddogblitz Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 OK so, if he continues to progress, when is the timing right? Game one, the bye, next year, wait on taylor to get injured; this ain't going to be pretty no matter when it happens. Next year. He can battle it out with franchise QB X from the draft.
Doc Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Needs to play more so the game starts to slow down for him.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Posting this here because it exclusively discusses the QB controversy that's in some people's minds: Edited August 20, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Peterman has many a thing to work on as any rookie QB does. I do agree with what some people have said - his footwork and pocket presence is impressive. That matters a lot. He's rushing through everything though, which is a natural tendency. Way too early to say if he's anything, but i've seen enough positives to not put a ceiling on him yet. ...that "voice of reason" stuff ain't gonna fly here.......go figure............
JM2009 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/8/20/16174780/buffalo-bills-quarterback-nathan-peterman-blitz-under-pressure
OldTimer1960 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 If what you say is true then the coach would have already made the switch. He has no reason not to. What you got is some preseason delusion. Peterman looked solid, but to think he is already better than Tyrod over a few good passes during preseason against weaker defenses is pretty silly. Is have to agree here. I do think that Peterman has shown some good things during the preseason - enough to be cautiously optimistic that he might become a decent NFL QB, BUT he has been under MUCH less defensive pressure than Taylor has seen and that is a BIG deal. I'm not trying to throw cold water on this thread, but I think many are waaaay ahead of things with Peterman.
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Some fans are so desperate that they latch onto any QB that walks through the door. It's amazing to me that a 5th Rounder already warrants time with the ones according to Bills fans. Any old QB who walks in off the street immediately deserves his shot to prove he's the guy....
Doc Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Some fans are so desperate that they latch onto any QB that walks through the door. It's amazing to me that a 5th Rounder already warrants time with the ones according to Bills fans. Any old QB who walks in off the street immediately deserves his shot to prove he's the guy.... It happens when no one is sold on the guy who is supposed to be the starter.
HappyDays Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Some fans are so desperate that they latch onto any QB that walks through the door. It's amazing to me that a 5th Rounder already warrants time with the ones according to Bills fans. Any old QB who walks in off the street immediately deserves his shot to prove he's the guy.... And yet you are in other threads whining that the Bills didn't draft Mahomes or Watson. Stop with the draft position crap, it literally means nothing now. Have you actually watched these QBs play or are you just too concerned that it was a 5th sound pick?
Mat68 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Good post, thanks. Pro system isn't the first thing I look for. Trubisky played in a spread but he's deadly accurate and reads the whole field. He was easily the best prospect in the draft. As opposed to someone like Mahomes who not only played in a spread system but also needs to revamp his mechanics. But I think the bigger cliche than "pro system QB" is "drafting QBs is a crapshoot." I don't think that's true. You can at least whittle down the available prospects. It's easy. You avoid prospects whose scouting profiles read like this: Those are EJ Manuel's and Paxton Lynch's draft profiles. Cardale Jones is the epitome of this type of QB and I'm struggling to think of a time when one has worked out. This year it's Deshone Kizer. Everyone likes him based on one preseason game but his mechanics and spotty accuracy will catch up to him. Pat Mahomes is a weird one because he has a big arm and he's even generally accurate but his mechanics are a mess, and he's not as accurate on the deep ball as his tape would have you believe. He's one of the few "strong, big arm" QBs I could see actually making it but he's more likely to become Jay Cutler than Brett Favre IMO. And I don't agree when people say "1st round QBs are more likely to succeed." In recent years that hasn't really been true, because GMs keep taking the same crap prospects with "big arms" or guys that win the national championship as if that even remotely matters. The success rate seems to still be about 50% for the top 2 picks, and everything else in the 1st round is well below 50%. I remember looking into this, and I found Derek Carr was the only QB taken between pick 3 and 35 that has any sort of success, since Aaron Rodgers was drafted in 2005. But these QBs keep getting taken. How can someone say it's a crapshoot when the statistics are right there? Don't waste mid-1st round picks on strong arms or "proven winners." Find decent accuracy and decent mechanics, that's the pool of QBs you should draft from. That's where the real crapshoot is, it's near impossible to tell which QBs from that pool will rise to the top. But you can literally just read draft profiles of some QBs and know they're not going to make it. Cam Newton is why Jones and Manuel were drafted. That is why the draft is a crapshoot. Edited August 21, 2017 by Mat68
Boatdrinks Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It happens when no one is sold on the guy who is supposed to be the starter. Or when you haven't had a good starting QB since Bill Clinton was in office.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Some fans are so desperate that they latch onto any QB that walks through the door. It's amazing to me that a 5th Rounder already warrants time with the ones according to Bills fans. Any old QB who walks in off the street immediately deserves his shot to prove he's the guy.... It's been that way since at least the Losman days.
Big Gun Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Some fans are so desperate that they latch onto any QB that walks through the door. It's amazing to me that a 5th Rounder already warrants time with the ones according to Bills fans. Any old QB who walks in off the street immediately deserves his shot to prove he's the guy.... What round was Tyrod drafted in? Edited August 21, 2017 by old school
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 What round was Tyrod drafted in? sixth round with the 180th overall it is kind of silly a 5th rounder could never be as good as a 6th
8-8 Forever? Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Yes, but you aren't acquiring all of these picks to build around him. You are going to go get your guy. Peterman isn't going to play this year and they aren't going to punt on next year's draft because of him. If Tyrod gets hurt or traded and Peterman lights it up -maybe. He isn't going to enter 2018 as the starter with 0 starts under his belt. I'll guess NP gets out there this season mid-tank. TT will either not be all that productive or he'll get burned up/hurt running for his life with 8 in the box and no one to throw to. Either way, I don't see him making it through the season as the starter. We seem basically to have two career backup QBs, but one is actually paid like a backup. the salary cap Decision is pretty simple, just as Sammy's was. So NP needs game reps so he can start next year while Darnold or Allen get ready to take over 2018 mid season (or so). My guess is the McBeane's have this as a contingency plan should the season tank early (odds are it will)... they are smart to stick with TT to start the season gotta think long term; Brady ain't playin' til he's 45, he'll get laid out pretty soon as teams know that laying him out is the way to beat the Pats, plus he looks more immobile than ever. the power structure of the AFC East will be changing as long as the Bills don't screw up and go 6-10 or 7-9 this year. gosh I hope they don't screw this up.... a small market team unpopular with top FAs can only build through the draft. then again, maybe they go out and tear it up and win the AFC East ! who knows? go bills Edited August 21, 2017 by jmcraig44
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I'll guess NP gets out there this season mid-tank. TT will either not be all that productive or he'll get burned up/hurt running for his life with 8 in the box and no one to throw to. Either way, I don't see him making it through the season as the starter. We seem basically to have two career backup QBs, but one is actually paid like a backup. the salary cap Decision is pretty simple, just as Sammy's was. So NP needs game reps so he can start next year while Darnold or Allen get ready to take over 2018 mid season (or so). My guess is the McBeane's have this as a contingency plan should the season tank early (odds are it will)... they are smart to stick with TT to start the season gotta think long term; Brady ain't playin' til he's 45, he'll get laid out pretty soon as teams know that laying him out is the way to beat the Pats, plus he looks more immobile than ever. the power structure of the AFC East will be changing as long as the Bills don't screw up and go 6-10 or 7-9 this year. gosh I hope they don't screw this up.... a small market team unpopular with top FAs can only build through the draft. then again, maybe they go out and tear it up and win the AFC East ! who knows? go bills IMO IF the Bills have 3 or less wins at the week 9 mark and the offense just isn't getting it done .... I'd like to see the switch
Royale with Cheese Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 @Cover_1 Peterman throws it short instead of the possible big play to Thomas. Can't hate on it too much, he was decisive. Missed a wide open Logan Thomas here. Wouldn't have had time, I don't think, to get it to Thomas. He was crushed as he threw it to O'Leary.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Wouldn't have had time, I don't think, to get it to Thomas. He was crushed as he threw it to O'Leary. He should have. Thomas was uncovered from the snap.
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