Doc Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I admit that tonight was impressive. His release was as quick as I've seen from a QB, with some zip on the ball. HOWEVER, he was also only being asked to make one read. This is also the 4th preseason game, which we all know what teams show. I think he showed enough to give him a chance when this season gets out of hand. And by that I mean, if TT isn't showing why he is ABSOLUTELY the QB of our future and we are below .500 halfway through the season, I give Peterman. As for the comment about comparing him to Trent Edwards? Again, I don't know how you can compare them after such as short amount of time. Yes, he hasn't gone deep, but neither has Tyrod. I'll have to watch the replay to see if that's true. Some were saying he was locking onto his primary receiver last week as well, and that wasn't true at all.
Nuncha Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 You cant compare Peterman to Captain check down - Peterman had several completions of more than 5 yards.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 TT was one of the best QBs in 2016 under pressure.But wasn't he also sacked the most? That may seem like a knock on the offensive line but a lot of those are on TT. He holds onto the ball way to long. Tyrod can do amazing things when it looks like a play is dead, but he needs to stop getting to that point on every singe series. Once in a while is ok, but it seems like every 3rd down is a backyard scramble drill. Drop back, go thru the reads and throw the ball. There is way to much dancing and waiting with Tyrod. Drop back make a decison and throw the ball.
reddogblitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 You cant compare Peterman to Captain check down - Peterman had several completions of more than 5 yards. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000837592/article/nathan-petermans-solid-preseason-continues-for-bills In two drives, he completed passes that went for 15, 12, 11, 11 and 10 yards. Do the math. 81 - 59 = 22. So the other 4 completions were for 22 yards. Are we really going to argue about if he throws long passes or not? "Nate Peterman is developing," Bills coach Sean McDermott said. "It's important he goes through the process. I was proud of the way he played."
Strethor Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 You have to like what you see from Peterman! Kid looks good, although Tyrods seat in my opinion is nowhere close to hot *yet* having someone who looks very capable under TT is somewhat comforting for both this season and the future
Juice_32 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Interesting to me to see his ball compared to Kaaya. Coming out they were both knocked for arm strength but to me it looked like NP had way more zip.
Virgil Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I'll have to watch the replay to see if that's true. Some were saying he was locking onto his primary receiver last week as well, and that wasn't true at all. His snap to release was so quick, I can't imagine how he could've done more than that. It seemed like a lot of quick plays and we were just a step ahead of the defense on them. I'm not taking anything away from him and I agree that last week he made multiple reads. So it's not to say he can't do it. This week, the play calls and prep was just didn't.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Interesting to me to see his ball compared to Kaaya. Coming out they were both knocked for arm strength but to me it looked like NP had way more zip. Kaaya's arm strength does look pretty weak by comparison.
Big Turk Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 His snap to release was so quick, I can't imagine how he could've done more than that. It seemed like a lot of quick plays and we were just a step ahead of the defense on them. I'm not taking anything away from him and I agree that last week he made multiple reads. So it's not to say he can't do it. This week, the play calls and prep was just didn't. Kelso said on the radio broadcast the plays looked like they were designed to avoid him getting hit, which was smartThere is one thing about Peterman in the preseason games that reminds me SO MUCH of Trent Edwards. Where are the throws downfield? I don't mean 40 yard fly patterns, but how about crossing patterns or slants where the ball travels 15-20 yards past the line of Scrimmage? It is like watching Trent Edwards all over. It's the offense we run now...lots of short stuff
tonyjustbcuz Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 So my take on Peterman is that he has the potential to be a special starting QB in the NFL. I study football and have a NFL Draft War Room in my home! I doubled-up my accelerated Master's degree program at St. Bonaventure in Strategic Leadership so I could Graduate last December in advance of the rest of my class. It was critical that I did so, so I could watch all the bowl games, East/West especially, National Championshiip Game, watch video on college prospects, watch the NFL Combine in Indy, read about pro days etc... I have my own system of measures and analytics to determine the order of my draft board. My success rate in drafting NFL players has been much better than the Bills track record over the past 15 years! Although that isn't much to brag about, as I could've achieved that by purchasing 3 NFL Draft Magazines at the grocery store! The last QB that I felt so sure about and had as a Bills selection on my draft card was: Russel Wilson! We would have also drafted other great player's like Hali Ngnata, Rob Gronkowski, G.Bay's Clay etc.. My drafts would've netted us 13 current All-Pro's on our roster! (Much like our '90-93 roster) Not all of my picks have been hits, but few are misses! Drafting is an imperfect art, but you can increase your odds by staying clear of certain red flags: Behavioral, Medical... And putting emphasis on fully committed players who are Seniors! Certain physical characteristics are important factors, but not every outlier should be discarded...That's where I saw the value of Russel Wilson and weighed the intangibles of character, leadership, and work ethic! Barring injury, I just knew he was going to be elite... he may lack ideal height, but he more than compensates through improvising and finding a pathway to success! Everything I read and seen of him told me that he had something special within!!! There were clues that Ryan Leaf might fail... just some breadcrumb trails, but they were present to the watchful eye! My point is that I had Nathan Peterman on my draft board in the 4th round. After everything was analyzed thoroughly, I was certain that Peterman had the character, drive and ability to potentially be a tier 1 QB! His height is adequate (not ideal) and he can needle the ball in tight windows and make most NFL throws. I believe he could add some arm strength to improve his velocity and ability to throw the long-ball which may be his two weaknesses. Peterman should and will work on his strength and conditioning and should improve his arm/shoulder strength.... He has good feet, can scramble when necessary and is a student of the game and makes intelligent choices both on and off the field! He played a pro-style offense as QB at Pitt and was a great leader who led his team past Clemson! (Their only loss) Everything I see tells me that Nathan Peterman is destined to be a Top Tier Starting QB in the NFL and win championships! I think he will get the breaks that give him the opportunities to showcase his talent at the position. I think he has many intangibles that outweigh any limitations that are revealed. He is the most NFL ready QB in the 2017 draft and I nearly lost my composure when the Bills selected Nathan Peterman! In 2016 the opposite reaction was reserved for the Reggie Ragland pick! I was upset as the pick did not make sense to me as I had red flags on my draft board and could not fathom given up additional ammo (draft picks) to select him! Unfortunate, one year later I was proven right! I may have gotten off topic slightly, but I rarely comment as I learn much more from reading, watching and analyzing than talking (typing)! Thanks 🙏 for bearing with me and I don't expect many of you to agree with most of what I've said, but I have been proven right often enough where I have confidence in my opinions on drafting and on Nathan Peterman. I could envision myself in the front office of the Buffalo Bills. Not because of earnings...as that's not a true motivator... it's the passion that matters!!! Go Bills!!! 🏈
BillsFan4 Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I've been impressed with Peterman this preseason, especially for a rookie. You see him going through his progressions, making some nice reads to find his open receiver and is using the whole field. He looks very comfortable playing in the pocket. He knows how to step up/climb & keep his eyes down field and doesn't panic as soon as the pocket starts collapsing. I thought he's picked up the offense quickly and looks very comfortable on the field running things. Doesn't seem to get too flustered out there. Seems to fit this offense well. He's been able to get the ball out quickly and his ball placement has been pretty good for the most part. Peterman obviously still has plenty to work on and I don't think we should throw him to the wolves yet (unless TT isn't ready to go) but I definitely have hope for him. He's looking like a very good backup at the very least and I think he has potential to be the Bills starting QB, even if just as a bridge to a more permanent guy. I'm hopeful he can be more than that, though. But It's really hard to make any real, definitive judgements on him during preseason. I want to see him against legit #1's when these a game plan against him.
Billsmovinup Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Hes certainly made the team but predicting that hell be elite is guesswork at best. If/when he does start teams will break down his tendencies and take away what he does best, just like they did to Tyrod last year and many other QBs early in their careers, and thats when well find out just how good he is. If Tyrod is putrid in the first quarter of the season Peterman might get a shot by game five or six. If Tyrod is average I think Peterman continues to sit which IMO would be the best thing for his development. It would be great to not have to pick a qb next year and use all those picks on other needs. Maybe the Bills got lucky for a change. It would be nice. Edited September 1, 2017 by Billsmovinup
WideRightRevenge Posted September 1, 2017 Author Posted September 1, 2017 How about no evaluations of day 3 qbs in their first preseason that include essentially saying they are without flaw and make the right reads, are highly accurate, strong armed and athletic leaders? I didn't say he COULDNT succeed. I said he was a day 3 pick because 32 gms agreed he was a prospect with shortcomings - which stands to reason either he's changed as a player or all 32 whiffed incredibly bad. He could succeed - but is likely a project and certainly a long shot. OK .... let me ask you this after the close of Pre-Season ... has Nate showed you more, less, or what you expected as a 5th round pick playing in the pre-season? Net of his throws under pressure and inability to throw a 60 yard bomb which are so prevalent in today's NFL ... where are his shortcoming versus what we have on roster?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) JM2009, on 31 Aug 2017 - 10:26 PM, said: TT was one of the best QBs in 2016 under pressure. He has a FREAKISH ability to escape. How many times are you sure he's nailed, but then..... What he does next? And one of the most sacked QB's in 2016. or should that be the most sacked QB of 16? Am I telling a lie? The long ball.... The Bills employed a bevy of three-step drops with Peterman in (likely to help keep him healthy). The rookie quarterback displayed good pocket presence, got the ball out quickly, showed good accuracy and timing with receivers. In two drives, he completed passes that went for 15, 12, 11, 11 and 10 yards. 5 first downs (unless some were down and 10+ yds) Edited September 1, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I think people are forgetting too. Nathan Peterman is NOT a Brandon Beane pick. He is going to take his QB next year
Doc Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 His snap to release was so quick, I can't imagine how he could've done more than that. It seemed like a lot of quick plays and we were just a step ahead of the defense on them. I'm not taking anything away from him and I agree that last week he made multiple reads. So it's not to say he can't do it. This week, the play calls and prep was just didn't. Yeah, a little while after I posted that, I figured he was probably told to get the ball out as quickly as possible. Kelso said on the radio broadcast the plays looked like they were designed to avoid him getting hit, which was smart It's the offense we run now...lots of short stuff It was the smart decision. I think people are forgetting too. Nathan Peterman is NOT a Brandon Beane pick. He is going to take his QB next year Depends on how he plays this year. And where the Bills pick and who is available at that spot.
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Yeah, a little while after I posted that, I figured he was probably told to get the ball out as quickly as possible. It was the smart decision. Depends on how he plays this year. And where the Bills pick and who is available at that spot. He isnt going to play much
Big Gun Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 Interesting to me to see his ball compared to Kaaya. Coming out they were both knocked for arm strength but to me it looked like NP had way more zip. Yeah, and Sal just said at this point last year Kaaya was supposed to be the best QB coming out. How things changed and how they again will change for next year. Who knows what will happen throughout this college year and in the draft. Better to develop the known in Peterman because what is thought will happen leading up to next year may not happen at all.
Doc Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 He isnt going to play much There is no way to know this. Injury, a poor first month by TT, and getting knocked out of the playoffs are all scenarios where he could play a lot.
Big Gun Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 I'll have to watch the replay to see if that's true. Some were saying he was locking onto his primary receiver last week as well, and that wasn't true at all. He was looking all over the field last night. No locking on at all.
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