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All I am reading today is the draft capital to get a QB in next year's draft .... is it just me or did no one like what Nate showed on Thursday? First drive as a pro ... drove down the field and scored ... in the fourth scrambled for good 1st downs .. and then hit Taiwan Jones perfectly on 4th down on the 5 yard line .. but he turned his head to run and dropped the ball ...likely could of been game tying score.

 

This kid went to Clemson last year and beat #1 in a shootout against D. Watson ... I like what I saw and yes only one game and yes against 2nd/3rd string .. but certainly better than what I saw from Yates vs. the Vikes ... but given the lack of comments and I am island?

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No chance, the Bills aren't getting all of this draft capital to build around a guy that they passed on like 5 times in the draft. That should tell you how confident they are in him becoming the guy.

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Having a 5th round Nate Peterman doesn't stop you from drafting someone too. Takes QB's a few years to develop. You need to hedge your bets

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Brady was passed 5 times as I recall ... Russell Wilson was the 6th QB taken in his draft (we took the illustrious TJ Graham WR NC State 7 picks earlier that year in round 3) ... Kirk Cousins .. same draft class next round ... with your logic ... unless you're a first rounder ... you can't make it .. I respectfully disagree ... Dak Precott as a recent example.

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Brady was passed 5 times as I recall ... Russell Wilson was the 6th QB taken in his draft (we took the illustrious TJ Graham WR NC State 7 picks earlier that year in round 3) ... Kirk Cousins .. same draft class next round ... with your logic ... unless you're a first rounder ... you can't make it .. I respectfully disagree ... Dak Precott as a recent example.

Yes, but you aren't acquiring all of these picks to build around him. You are going to go get your guy. Peterman isn't going to play this year and they aren't going to punt on next year's draft because of him. If Tyrod gets hurt or traded and Peterman lights it up -maybe. He isn't going to enter 2018 as the starter with 0 starts under his belt.
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Brady was passed 5 times as I recall ... Russell Wilson was the 6th QB taken in his draft (we took the illustrious TJ Graham WR NC State 7 picks earlier that year in round 3) ... Kirk Cousins .. same draft class next round ... with your logic ... unless you're a first rounder ... you can't make it .. I respectfully disagree ... Dak Precott as a recent example.

that seems to be everyone's logic on this board, and evidently, the same with the FO. they can't develop QBs or a team, so they are looking for a "ready made" Brady, Rodgers, or Ryan....not happening. there is a reason those QBs are miles better than the others in the league. Time, experience and development.

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Nathan Peterman looks like a career backup QB.

umm he played ONE pre-season game and fared pretty well. hahah this board knows all, huh?

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Yes, but you aren't acquiring all of these picks to build around him. You are going to go get your guy. Peterman isn't going to play this year and they aren't going to punt on next year's draft because of him. If Tyrod gets hurt or traded and Peterman lights it up -maybe. He isn't going to enter 2018 as the starter with 0 starts under his belt.

 

All I'm saying ... is 90% of this board is already looking to 2018 QB draft class and a guy we just picked (granted 5th round) has played half a game ... and versus others ... I thought showed OK ... so it ain't 2018 yet ... let's talk about what we have for 2017 ... for me I'm looking forward to Nate's next game ... and see what happens ... my point is ... everyone else I showed drafted late .. probably wasn't that team's savior either (Brady, Wilson, Prescott, Cousins) ... but were eventually thrust into the roles and shocking given their draft position ... have played pretty well (meaning I think we as Bills Fans) vs. the 20+ QB's we've had since Jim Kelly.

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umm he played ONE pre-season game and fared pretty well. hahah this board knows all, huh?

 

He looked okay against 3rd and 4th stringers in his preseason debut. His college tape says career backup and that's what I see in him. It's obvious that plans are underway to get a highly rated QB prospect in the 2018 draft.

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All I'm saying ... is 90% of this board is already looking to 2018 QB draft class and a guy we just picked (granted 5th round) has played half a game ... and versus others ... I thought showed OK ... so it ain't 2018 yet ... let's talk about what we have for 2017 ... for me I'm looking forward to Nate's next game ... and see what happens ... my point is ... everyone else I showed drafted late .. probably wasn't that team's savior either (Brady, Wilson, Prescott, Cousins) ... but were eventually thrust into the roles and shocking given their draft position ... have played pretty well (meaning I think we as Bills Fans) vs. the 20+ QB's we've had since Jim Kelly.

I'll ask it a different way. If Nate Peterman finishes this season with no starts (or even 1 or 2) do you think that the FO will be comfortable with him entering 2018 as the starter?

 

They can't pass up this draft class, with all of that draft capital, on the chance that Peterman becomes a franchise guy. That minuscule chance just isn't one that teams will take. Peterman's only chance is a Tyrod injury or trade. If that happens and Peterman plays great maybe they will hand him the keys. He will have to play a lot (and well) to get the opportunity.

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He looked okay against 3rd and 4th stringers in his preseason debut. His college tape says career backup and that's what I see in him. It's obvious that plans are underway to get a highly rated QB prospect in the 2018 draft.

ever take note that he was also throwing to 3rd and 4th stringers? good play is good play. if he were bad, people would find the negative. if he played well then "ohh it was again 3rd and 4th..."

 

again, you can't have it both ways. good play is good play. why would any one expect a rookie fresh to the league to perform lights out against starters? it has to start somewhere.

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ever take note that he was also throwing to 3rd and 4th stringers? good play is good play. if he were bad, people would find the negative. if he played well then "ohh it was again 3rd and 4th..."

 

again, you can't have it both ways. good play is good play. why would any one expect a rookie fresh to the league to perform lights out against starters? it has to start somewhere.

 

He had some good plays and some bad. He looked okay, but that was a helluva lot better than what Yates showed.

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I'll ask it a different way. If Nate Peterman finishes this season with no starts (or even 1 or 2) do you think that the FO will be comfortable with him entering 2018 as the starter?

 

They can't pass up this draft class, with all of that draft capital, on the chance that Peterman becomes a franchise guy. That minuscule chance just isn't won that teams will take. Peterman's only chance is a Tyrod injury or trade. If that happens and Peterman plays great maybe they will hand him the keys. He will have to play a lot (and well) to get the opportunity.

Agree ... my only point is I don't see anyone excited about his first game action of the season ... all we're jabbering about is 2018 and we only only partially test driven our new 2017 QB model.

 

ever take note that he was also throwing to 3rd and 4th stringers? good play is good play. if he were bad, people would find the negative. if he played well then "ohh it was again 3rd and 4th..."

 

again, you can't have it both ways. good play is good play. why would any one expect a rookie fresh to the league to perform lights out against starters? it has to start somewhere.

 

Thanks 87 ... I agree

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He looked okay against 3rd and 4th stringers in his preseason debut. His college tape says career backup and that's what I see in him. It's obvious that plans are underway to get a highly rated QB prospect in the 2018 draft.

Then we better hope that there are 3 or 4 franchise QBs in the 2018 draft class because 3 other teams will snap up QB's before Buffalo gets a chance.

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