NoSaint Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 If forced to define the philosophy of this offseason, how would you define the moves in a short statement or two? Culture over immediate competitiveness, with an eye towards 2018?
Maury Ballstein Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Copycats of Nba's 76ers Trust the Process tanking style Gm's are a thing now. Time will tell if it works, or we end up drafting bums like the Browns do.
BadLandsMeanie Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 "We need a quarterback. Hyping a drafted Defensive Lineman, Linebacker, Wide Receiver, Cornerback, etc, etc, doesn't win games" (It just sells tickets)
WMDman Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Copycats of Nba's 76ers Trust the Process tanking style Gm's are a thing now. Time will tell if it works, or we end up drafting bums like the Browns do. If anything the Jets are more like the sixers then we are, as a sixer fan ive been trusting the process far too long now
Fadingpain Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Sacrifice of mediocre short term returns for potential long term big gains. This team was/is going nowhere this season, and we finally have a regime in place who understands that and is doing something about it, rather than try to sell rotten garbage to the fan base proclaiming it to be filet mignon. This is cause for celebration if you are a Bills fan.
NoSaint Posted August 12, 2017 Author Posted August 12, 2017 Sacrifice of mediocre short term returns for potential long term big gains. This team was/is going nowhere this season, and we finally have a regime in place who understands that and is doing something about it, rather than try to sell rotten garbage to the fan base proclaiming it to be filet mignon. This is cause for celebration if you are a Bills fan. You way that but a number of moves this offseason contradict it. How does TT, KW, etc... fit your defined philosophy? Or is the argument that they were as mediocre at being bad as they have been when trying to be good?
Boatdrinks Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Wait for Tom Brady to retire or fall off a cliff. Be ready with a real QB when that happens in 3 years or so.
Nyghtewynd Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 "We got all the season ticket money, so it's safe to start the tank job now."
Marty McFly Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Short term pain long term gaindraft picks rain heres a tank.
Coach Tuesday Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Establish a character-based culture of team players who commit to the process and put the greater good before their individual interests. Install systems that will help ensure sustained success and that don't depend on any one or two "star" players (i.e., a complete rejection of Whaley's "six star players" approach). Place a value on positions, types of players for each position, and specific players on the roster and stick to that value even if it means losing the player to a higher bid. Look ahead strategically to trends within the league, the upcoming draft and free agency pool, and the cap situation.
NoSaint Posted August 12, 2017 Author Posted August 12, 2017 Short term pain long term gain draft picks rain heres a tank. How do you reconcile TT, KW, etc... in a full tank though? Really what I'm trying to get at a bit is whether they stuck to a true philosophy or were half pregnant in their approach. The only overreaching thing I can find is that they prioritized character over talent in the race to a 2018 qb. Essentially rounding up guys that would keep it from being a clown show and losing the roster before they even start building( Kyle, boldin, Tolbert, etc..) but not truly wanting to win now. I could then foresee Sammy being trouble in that win later atmosphere. It'll be interesting to see what comes of McCoy if I'm accurate in that assessment.
ganesh Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 If forced to define the philosophy of this offseason, how would you define the moves in a short statement or two? Culture over immediate competitiveness, with an eye towards 2018? Building through the draft. Finding players that can fit your schemes/coaching. No one is bigger than the game.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Talent sucks, being nice is all that matters.
jaybee Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Make the necessary moves for long term success with minimal impact on the short term. Perfect IMHO.
Marty McFly Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 How do you reconcile TT, KW, etc... in a full tank though? Really what I'm trying to get at a bit is whether they stuck to a true philosophy or were half pregnant in their approach. The only overreaching thing I can find is that they prioritized character over talent in the race to a 2018 qb. Essentially rounding up guys that would keep it from being a clown show and losing the roster before they even start building( Kyle, boldin, Tolbert, etc..) but not truly wanting to win now. I could then foresee Sammy being trouble in that win later atmosphere. It'll be interesting to see what comes of McCoy if I'm accurate in that assessment. See that half pregnant stunt is whats gonna piss me off. They sold the fanbase its team throughout the offseason and then change the best WR in mid-August? I can understand why they did it, but I didnt like how they did that.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Make the necessary moves for long term success with minimal impact on the short term. Perfect IMHO. They could have kept Sammy, been more competitive, & still had a ton of picks.
Coach Tuesday Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 They could have kept Sammy, been more competitive, & still had a ton of picks. That's my issue. Trade Shady, build around Sammy.
jaybee Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 They could have kept Sammy, been more competitive, & still had a ton of picks. Agree, but I still feel the short term impact is negligible given the current state of our franchise and its' components.
bisonbrigade Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Looking for Jim Kelly 2.0, Please end the drought. Josh Allen, Mason Rudolph, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold?
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