Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 who would trade for him Denver seems like the logical place to me. An injury elsewhere can still come into play as well like Minnesota last year.
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Again it's a opinion everyone has one. As for the cut down of a half brain comment I can say the same about the Tyrod pushers that have been screaming Tyrod is good enough for a playoff run and now he is only a 6 win QB that can't win a playoff game if he did make it. If I was to stoop to The Tyrod pushers level with The derogatory remarks of name calling on opinions the ones with a half brain is the ones that are happy with what we have seen the last two seasons. What I want is change and a chance for success. With Peterman we don't know, you can act like you know but respectfully you dont. Never said Peterman was all that but I do think he will end up a better QB then Tyrod. There is practically no one that are "happy" with Tyrod. Almost no one thinks Tyrod is a franchise QB. What most reasonable people think is that Tyrod is the best this team could do *this season* and currently is this teams best chance to win. With the right team around him Tyrod probably could make the playoffs. That isn't this team with this schedule. Denver he could probably do it. Houston he could probably do it. Â When people post stupid **** like Peterman would win 2 more games than Tyrod they deserved to be called half brained. Your hate for Tyrod has made you irrational. Its that simple. With Peterman I do know. I know he isn't good enough *yet* Just like I knew EJ wasn't good enough. Just like I know Tyrod isn't good enough but he is better than both. Â I would completely understand you saying get rid of Tyrod and play Peterman with the outlook of tanking the season to get a better shot at a QB next year. That is at least rational. What you are saying is completely irrational based on your Tyrod hate. Even you know it. Edited August 12, 2017 by Scott7975
xRUSHx Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 There is practically no one that are "happy" with Tyrod. Almost no one thinks Tyrod is a franchise QB. What most reasonable people think is that Tyrod is the best this team could do *this season* and currently is this teams best chance to win. With the right team around him Tyrod probably could make the playoffs. That isn't this team with this schedule. Denver he could probably do it. Houston he could probably do it. Â When people post stupid **** like Peterman would win 2 more games than Tyrod they deserved to be called half brained. Your hate for Tyrod has made you irrational. Its that simple. With Peterman I do know. I know he isn't good enough *yet* Just like I knew EJ wasn't good enough. Just like I know Tyrod isn't good enough but he is better than both. Â I would completely understand you saying get rid of Tyrod and play Peterman with the outlook of tanking the season to get a better shot at a QB next year. That is at least rational. What you are saying is completely irrational based on your Tyrod hate. Even you know it. All I want is a top QB drafted next season, eitherway this team won't be winning much this season so it looks like we might finally get a real franchise worthy QB. I don't hate Tyrod I just don't want him as my starting QB anymore. As I said before I do think Peterman is a better QB then Tyrod, like it or not it's my opinion. Also in my opinion Tyrod won't be on this team next season so to have him play is just a waste of space to maybe 6 wins. I'd rather give Peterman the experience. Why bother using Tyrod when Peterman can get those 6 wins as well in my opinion. Just my opinion sorry not sorry you don't agree. The name calling is not needed but is used very often by the Tyrod pushers in their crusade. I think this team is a 4 win team with or without Tyrod as the starter, the 6 win threshold was brought up by JM.
Figster Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Denver seems like the logical place to me. An injury elsewhere can still come into play as well like Minnesota last year. I agree, and it would not surprise me if negotiations are already under way.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I agree, and it would not surprise me if negotiations are already under way. really, what would you hope to get from Denver ?
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) really, what would you hope to get from Denver ? 2nd and Siemian would be my guess. The Vikings gave up a 1 and 3 (I think) for Bradford. It sounds like the Denver situation has been bad. Lynch may never be the guy. That team has their window open at the moment and could use the upgrade at QB. P.s. Someone supposedly offered a 2nd for McCarron this offseason. Edited August 12, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
Bangarang Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Bull. There are at least 5 teams for which he'd be an instant upgrade. Probably but then why does he decide to re-structure after his agent was testing the market at the combine?
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 All I want is a top QB drafted next season, eitherway this team won't be winning much this season so it looks like we might finally get a real franchise worthy QB. I don't hate Tyrod I just don't want him as my starting QB anymore. As I said before I do think Peterman is a better QB then Tyrod, like it or not it's my opinion. Also in my opinion Tyrod won't be on this team next season so to have him play is just a waste of space to maybe 6 wins. I'd rather give Peterman the experience. Why bother using Tyrod when Peterman can get those 6 wins as well in my opinion. Just my opinion sorry not sorry you don't agree. The name calling is not needed but is used very often by the Tyrod pushers in their crusade. I think this team is a 4 win team with or without Tyrod as the starter, the 6 win threshold was brought up by JM. All most people want is a top QB drafted next season. You aren't alone in that. I don't think this team is going to win much the season either. Â Its too bad. Tyrod currently is the starting QB. The reason he is the starting QB is because he is the best QB on this roster regardless of your opinion. Â Your opinion that Peterman is currently a better QB than Tyrod is where you lose me. Its where I begin to think you either aren't very smart or you hate Tyrod that much that you are irrational. You are probably the only one on the planet that would think that. There is a reason for that. Its because there is no way in hell Peterman is a better QB than Tyrod at this point. You just want to believe that so you have some hope. As you say, this season is likely not going to result in very many wins. Get a QB next year. Peterman will very likely never grow into anything more than a solid backup. He isn't the next got lucky Dak Prescott. I assure you of this.
xRUSHx Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 2nd and Siemian would be my guess. The Vikings gave up a 1 and 3 (I think) for Bradford. It sounds like the Denver situation has been bad. Lynch may never be the guy. That team has their window open at the moment and could use the upgrade at QB.A 2nd and Siemian for Tyrod? Haha, your dreaming, in my opinion we will be lucky to get a 3rd and a pack of smokes
Magox Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I don't see Tyrod as being part of their future plans. If I'm able to trade him for what Kirby is suggesting such as Sieman and a 2nd or maybe just a 1st rounder, then I think you pull the trigger. That may not be what this organization wants to do, but that is what I would do. A 2nd and Siemian for Tyrod? Haha, your dreaming, in my opinion we will be lucky to get a 3rd and a pack of smokes  I would venture to guess that there are at least a handful of GM's that disagree with you and in the NFL, all it takes is one.
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Why was he even re-signed? Because they thought they could be competitive with Tyrod as their QB.
xRUSHx Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 All most people want is a top QB drafted next season. You aren't alone in that. I don't think this team is going to win much the season either. Â Its too bad. Tyrod currently is the starting QB. The reason he is the starting QB is because he is the best QB on this roster regardless of your opinion. Â Your opinion that Peterman is currently a better QB than Tyrod is where you lose me. Its where I begin to think you either aren't very smart or you hate Tyrod that much that you are irrational. You are probably the only one on the planet that would think that. There is a reason for that. Its because there is no way in hell Peterman is a better QB than Tyrod at this point. You just want to believe that so you have some hope. As you say, this season is likely not going to result in very many wins. Get a QB next year. Peterman will very likely never grow into anything more than a solid backup. He isn't the next got lucky Dak Prescott. I assure you of this. You assure me? Wow your very sure of yourself.I assure you that I have a opinion and you have a opinion.I also assure you that neither of us know for sure it's why they are called opinions. I don't see Tyrod as being part of their future plans. If I'm able to trade him for what Kirby is suggesting such as Sieman and a 2nd or maybe just a 1st rounder, then I think you pull the trigger. That may not be what this organization wants to do, but that is what I would do. Â Â I would venture to guess that there are at least a handful of GM's that disagree with you and in the NFL, all it takes is one. I hope your right. I sure do hope a GM gives us a better trade but I hope OBD don't hold out on a dream for a bigger trade that most likely won't happen considering nobody wanted him when he was avalible.
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 You assure me? Wow your very sure of yourself. I assure you that I have a opinion and you have a opinion.I also assure you that neither of us know for sure it's why they are called opinions. I hope your right. I sure do hope a GM gives us a better trade but I hope OBD don't hold out on a dream for a bigger trade that most likely won't happen considering nobody wanted him when he was avalible. Yes I am sure of myself. I seen the kid play and I read the reports from camp. He isn't better than Tyrod. Someday Peterman may be, but that day isn't today.
Ittakestime Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Because they thought they could be competitive with Tyrod as their QB. If you want to be competitive, don't trade talent off your team.
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 If you want to be competitive, don't trade talent off your team. This team won games practically without him the last two years. They lost games without Tyrod. Even though Tyrod is not a franchise QB there is enough of a difference between the Tyrods of the league and the Cardale Jones of the league. Tyrod was there best option its that simple. While Sammy was their best option at receiver the impact of losing him isn't as much of an impact as starting Cardale Jones or someone like him.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 A 2nd and Siemian for Tyrod? Haha, your dreaming, in my opinion we will be lucky to get a 3rd and a pack of smokesThat's about what they will get. Bradford fetched more coming off of less production. Denver's window is open. The AFC isn't good. They can be the 2nd best team if they make that move. You think a 2nd and Siemian is irrational but Peterman over Tyrod is rational. I'm not the one that is crazy here.
Figster Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 A 2nd and Siemian for Tyrod? Haha, your dreaming, in my opinion we will be lucky to get a 3rd and a pack of smokes 2 sounds about right IMO
Big Gun Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 That's about what they will get. Bradford fetched more coming off of less production. Denver's window is open. The AFC isn't good. They can be the 2nd best team if they make that move. You think a 2nd and Siemian is irrational but Peterman over Tyrod is rational. I'm not the one that is crazy here. Lunacy, Tyrod doesn't bring anymore than Siemain brings. Elway wouldn't do that. You guys are nuts to think Denver is even remotely interested in Tyrod.
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Lunacy, Tyrod doesn't bring anymore than Siemain brings. Elway wouldn't do that. You guys are nuts to think Denver is even remotely interested in Tyrod. Seiman can run and protect the ball like TT does? Good to know.
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