TSOL Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 We should trade Tyrod cuz I just don't see any team trading us into the top 3 draft slots in 2018, no matter how many picks we throw at them. Not if these 2018 QB's are as good as everyone says they are.
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 They may not call it tanking, no doubt McDermott will operate as if he is doing everything he can to win. But this move, by Beane, is a tank move. They aren't putting the best talent on the field. They should trade Tyrod and Shady now...their value is only going to go down... They would have an empty stadium if they did that.
Magox Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 They may not call it tanking, no doubt McDermott will operate as if he is doing everything he can to win. But this move, by Beane, is a tank move. They aren't putting the best talent on the field. They should trade Tyrod and Shady now...their value is only going to go down... I don't believe they will do that. I take him at his word, until proven otherwise.
Beast Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 He's a low end starter and elite backup. The Bills didn't even draft him. negative value-no. He has to be paid 15 million this season. Who would trade for a low end starter or high end backup making that much $ when he would have to come in and learn a new offense to boot? Negative trade value.
Maury Ballstein Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 They would have an empty stadium if they did that. Too late. Mission accomplished
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 If you hope to get at least a 3rd pick, you trade him now before his value hits rock bottom with WRs and an offense that doesn't fit him.
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Too late. Mission accomplished Roster stays as is, stadium will be full against the Jets.
xRUSHx Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Do I think it will happen? No. Do I want it to happen? Yes. This is where I'm at. Just move on is what I would like. Let the Rex/Whaley era end, no more other teams backups pushed as our starting franchise QB.. Start a true new era with a plan to use our own drafted QBs as starters not other teams throw outs. Edited August 12, 2017 by xRUSHx
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 This is where I'm at. Just move on is what I would like. Let the Rex/Whaley era end, no more other teams backups pushed as our starting franchise QB.. Start a true new era with a plan to draft a top QB in 2018 McCoy would be gone too,
BringBackOrton Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 McCoy would be gone too, He's not in our long-term plans either, unfortunately. Launch them both now.
Buftex Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) No shot. He's on a very reasonable one year prove-it deal (essentially). "Prove it, we've set you up with a bunch of mediocre slot receivers...get it done". Tyrod is being set up to fail...he'll have a very short leash (if he is still here) and we will get a good look at Peterman before another season comes to a disappointing end...this is already shaping up to be another lost season...perhaps it was the late GM change, but I am not getting the sense that all this was not thought out very well. He's not in our long-term plans either, unfortunately. Launch them both now. Given McCoys' comments earlier, it doens't sound like he is very happy. Fantastic player, but he could be toxic if he isn't happy. No doubt, that is why the previous regime gave him a new deal when he arrived in Buffalo, when they really didn't need to. Edited August 12, 2017 by Buftex
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 He's not in our long-term plans either, unfortunately. Launch them both now. Tell all this to the season ticket holders.
BringBackOrton Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Tell all this to the season ticket holders. They saw their starting QB get cut years back. They'll be okay. No refunds. Edited August 12, 2017 by jmc12290
Luka Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Trading an oft-injured 1b wide out who would not resign with the team and a man-to-man corner out of a zone scheme for players and picks isn't "tanking." It's realizing that the team is good enough that even if Tyrod regresses further this year, we won't be in a position to draft the franchise guy without the ability to trade up. This fan base has lost it's damn mind, seriously. How many times have we bemoaned a great player leaving in free agency without getting anything in return? And now everyone is going to complain when they actually pull the trigger and get something for a guy who everyone said we drafted too high and paid way too much for? Just like with Gilislee, I would have MUCH rather have seen Darby stay, but corners and wideouts are a dime a dozen it seems. ****, we draft one of each every year. No one knew that we drafted White and Jones to replace Darby and Watkins, but in the long term, this is an excellent move. Tyrod is not going to be traded, McCoy is not going to be traded.
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 They saw their starting QB get cut years back. They'll be okay. No refunds. and McCoy too. Easy for you to say.
Gunsgoodtime Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Tell all this to the season ticket holders. At this point I really don't think that matters to them, they want to try to build for the future and are obviously willing to listen to any offers for any player. Do you honestly think if someone offered a 2nd for Tyrod, or a 3rd for Mccoy, or a straight trade for Dareus they would not be gone? (Obviously considered contracts for them)
BringBackOrton Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 and McCoy too. Easy for you to say. I honestly don't care about the wallets of the fans who get season tickets and shocked by the electric cheese every year. The GM should be trying to be a Super Bowl roster, not give a crap about how mad the fans are gonna be because they bought Watkins' jerseys.
JM2009 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 At this point I really don't think that matters to them, they want to try to build for the future and are obviously willing to listen to any offers for any player. Do you honestly think if someone offered a 2nd for Tyrod, or a 3rd for Mccoy, or a straight trade for Dareus they would not be gone? (Obviously considered contracts for them) Well, a 2-14 season or worse is nothing to invest in or watch.
xRUSHx Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) At this point I really don't think that matters to them, they want to try to build for the future and are obviously willing to listen to any offers for any player. Do you honestly think if someone offered a 2nd for Tyrod, or a 3rd for Mccoy, or a straight trade for Dareus they would not be gone? (Obviously considered contracts for them)I'm a season ticket holder and I'm fine with a big step back this season. I am extremely excited for a top talent at QB to be drafted in 2018 and would be fine watching Peterman a QB drafted by Buffalo in hopes he plays well all season. As a season ticket holder Im sick of watching cast off QBs from other teams trying to be this teams starter pushing us to 7-9 hell over and over again. I want a stud QB drafted and developed by my team that I get to watch grow with the team. I'm so sick of the Fitz world this team has been stuck in for so long. Please just trade Tyrod and move on.I will respect this new staff even more if they don't take the route the last few took with below average QBs developed from other teams being pushed like they were better then they are. It's a QB driven league, without a good one the odds of going to the playoffs are next to impossible. Edited August 12, 2017 by xRUSHx
Figster Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) They saw their starting QB get cut years back. They'll be okay. No refunds. Russ strikes again? Edited August 12, 2017 by Figster
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