Cherrybone Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 This seem to be a we want our guys situation. Dareus and Hughes may not be safe either. Also how can you say you're not throwing in the towel when you get rid of definite talent and say you want to stock pile picks and build through the draft? Draft picks aren't a sure thing either. I hope Beane and McDermott know what they're doing. But this one right here may come back to haunt them.
JM2009 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Buffalo News SportsVerified account @TBNSports 23m23 minutes agoMore Bills trades distance team from Doug Whaley, pivot roster squarely in Brandon Beane's direction. @bytimgraham: http://bit.ly/2hSM6lJ
Elite Poster Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) It 100% is. Why do you think we have two FBs and zero outside WRs? Edited August 11, 2017 by Elite Poster
Samwell Tarly Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Just hope our guys are better in the long run.
Green Lightning Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 It 100% is. Why do you think we have two FBs and zero outside WRs? At least the WRs we now have may play a few games in a row without walking casts.
Beast Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 This seem to be a we want our guys situation. Dareus and Hughes may not be safe either. Also how can you say you're not throwing in the towel when you get rid of definite talent and say you want to stock pile picks and build through the draft? Draft picks aren't a sure thing either. I hope Beane and McDermott know what they're doing. But this one right here may come back to haunt them. What was our record with Watkins, Darby and whoever else you think may now be traded the last few seasons? And you hope Beane knows what he's doing when it was clear as day that Whaley didn't? I don't get the hysteria over todays transactions.
moshermw Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 We are now the Giants that beat us in the first SB. Run. Run, Ru, pass only when needed to physical receivers. No real speed threat on O. Tough DL and LB. Based on the first PS game, I bet we feature Tolbert and Di Marco and not really Shady so much. Only excitement will be the occasional Shady gash or TT scramble. Otherwise ? Paint drying. All said, if the D is good, it's a winning formula. I'll watch paint dry to 11-5 and a Wild Card birth.
Beast Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 We are now the Giants that beat us in the first SB. Run. Run, Ru, pass only when needed to physical receivers. No real speed threat on O. Tough DL and LB. Based on the first PS game, I bet we feature Tolbert and Di Marco and not really Shady so much. Only excitement will be the occasional Shady gash or TT scramble. Otherwise ? Paint drying. All said, if the D is good, it's a winning formula. I'll watch paint dry to 11-5 and a Wild Card birth. Admit it or not, our WR's are, at the every least, on par with last years group.
moshermw Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Admit it or not, our WR's are, at the every least, on par with last years group. If Jones can run his combine 4.45 in pads, I agree. We had either Goodwin or Sammy or both to take the top off a D. ZJ is our deep threat now - to go with the sweet TT deep ball. Modern NFL needs that guy to make a secondary worry. Goodwin and Sammy were that guy for us ... both gone.
klos63 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 We are now the Giants that beat us in the first SB. Run. Run, Ru, pass only when needed to physical receivers. No real speed threat on O. Tough DL and LB. Based on the first PS game, I bet we feature Tolbert and Di Marco and not really Shady so much. Only excitement will be the occasional Shady gash or TT scramble. Otherwise ? Paint drying. All said, if the D is good, it's a winning formula. I'll watch paint dry to 11-5 and a Wild Card birth. Is this sarcasm? Basing anything on the first preseason game is ridiculous. DiMarco has 1 carry in his whole career. Come on. What was our record with Watkins, Darby and whoever else you think may now be traded the last few seasons? And you hope Beane knows what he's doing when it was clear as day that Whaley didn't? I don't get the hysteria over todays transactions. That's nonsense logic.
HappyDays Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 If Jones can run his combine 4.45 in pads, I agree. We had either Goodwin or Sammy or both to take the top off a D. ZJ is our deep threat now - to go with the sweet TT deep ball. Modern NFL needs that guy to make a secondary worry. Goodwin and Sammy were that guy for us ... both gone. I don't know what we plan on doing for a deep threat this year, that's my biggest concern on offense. Honestly even before Sammy trade it was a concern because who knows how many games he ends up playing at full health. I am thinking Beane is watching the waiver wire for a speed receiver, I don't think the Bills are done making moves yet.
steven50 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 At least the WRs we now have may play a few games in a row without walking casts. I was thinking the same thing. The injury thing with them was crazy last year.
BullBuchanan Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 We are now the Giants that beat us in the first SB. Run. Run, Ru, pass only when needed to physical receivers. No real speed threat on O. Tough DL and LB. Based on the first PS game, I bet we feature Tolbert and Di Marco and not really Shady so much. Only excitement will be the occasional Shady gash or TT scramble. Otherwise ? Paint drying. All said, if the D is good, it's a winning formula. I'll watch paint dry to 11-5 and a Wild Card birth. Where's Lawrence Taylor?
moshermw Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I don't know what we plan on doing for a deep threat this year, that's my biggest concern on offense. Honestly even before Sammy trade it was a concern because who knows how many games he ends up playing at full health. I am thinking Beane is watching the waiver wire for a speed receiver, I don't think the Bills are done making moves yet. Agree 100 %. Zay was crazy good deep at ECU tho. Just never know if it translates. Where's Lawrence Taylor? Ha. Good one. Healthy Ragland ? Preston Brown ?
JerseyBills Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Admit it or not, our WR's are, at the every least, on par with last years group.Far superior imo.Watkins was basically nonexistent and a non factor. Woods was mediocre at best. Everybody else was below average. We now have Matthews , Zay and Boldin. Compared to our 16 WR production, they should be a Massive upgrade. Clay , Dimarco and Shady still. We had the 10th best scoring O, I've warmed up to this move honestly. We added serious ammunition for our future and didn't hamper our chances at contending this year. Still excited to see TT with a competent D as well, still think he can be our guy.
BillsFan4 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Beane answered this question directly. He said it has nothing to do with his players vs Whaley' players, said he has no problem keeping players if they buy in to what they're trying to do. They also seem to like a specific type of personality, and I'm not sure that was Sammy. If you look at the guys they've brought in, they are really 100% team first guys. Said they're willing to do whatever the team needs. It isn't about them or their stats and targets, it's only about winning. They're all about doing whatever the team needs them to do to win. We will see in time if their approach is right. But we won't know for at least a few years, and we have no control over any of this stuff. So you may as well sit back and try to enjoy the ride...
moshermw Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Is this sarcasm? Basing anything on the first preseason game is ridiculous. DiMarco has 1 carry in his whole career. Come on. That's nonsense logic. Meh. I'm judging by McD and Dennison teams they came from. Both ball control backgrounds. We actively stockpiled All-Pro FB's - totally overt what the O is being designed to do - especially after today. True dat 1st PS game is no reflection of the RS, but when the Bills had control of the LOS for a bit of time in the first half - steady dose of Tolbert. Then it stalled when he couldn't convert 3rd and 1 because everyone in New Era knew what was coming. They will b stubborn on the run. Bank it.
JerseyBills Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I was thinking the same thing. The injury thing with them was crazy last year.And still had a top 10 scoring O. Think Beane and McD realized with an improved D and reliable WR, we can take a big step. Think they felt this O didn't need an elite WR to be more successful then last year. Instead of forcing to Watkins we have a bunch of reliable targets on any given play, including Clay, and added a 2nd and 3rd.
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I don't know what we plan on doing for a deep threat this year, that's my biggest concern on offense. Honestly even before Sammy trade it was a concern because who knows how many games he ends up playing at full health. I am thinking Beane is watching the waiver wire for a speed receiver, I don't think the Bills are done making moves yet. Dezmin Lewis 4.46 40 time (pro day) Jordan Matthews 4.46 40 time Zay Jones 4.45 Rashad Ross 4.36 I think were alright guys, just sayin.
BillsFan4 Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 I don't know what we plan on doing for a deep threat this year, that's my biggest concern on offense. Honestly even before Sammy trade it was a concern because who knows how many games he ends up playing at full health. I am thinking Beane is watching the waiver wire for a speed receiver, I don't think the Bills are done making moves yet. I don't think they are done making moves by any means. I would be shocked if they didn't try to add players as rosters are cut to 53. I wouldn't even be surprised if we seen more trades. But I definitely expect players to be added to this roster. I'm really not all that worried about finding a speedy receiver though. Getting a "burner" to run some go routes shouldn't be all that tough to find, IMO, if that's something they decide they need. I'm not sure how often Dennison's offense relies on plays like that to need a burner type. Zay Jones did alright as a deep threat in college. Maybe he can fill that role? Now if you're talking about an all around good WR that can also be a deep threat, that'll be harder to find. I'm expecting more of a run & short pass w/YAC eat up the clock possession style offense though. If that's the case, then I think they have bigger, more pressing needs than a speedy WR (like defensive secondary!)
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