BringBackOrton Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Because Beane and his puppet master TBG said so! I would actually like this trade if we didn't trade Sammy. We could have had one of the best WRs core in the NFL. Instead, we are now the Eagles of last year. Meh. I think we are going for the short term pain-long term gain approach. Problem is; they traded 2 of our youngest and most promising, and kept the old productive vets.
ndirish1978 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Jordan Matthews was going to be a #4 wr and Sammy, if healthy, has more potential than any draft pick we are going to get. Perhaps, we get lucky with a draft pick. But Sammy's upside is higher than anyone involved in this trades. Most of the time, you don't get better by trading elite talent. Sammy was toast here. They got something out of him rather than just letting him play out his contract.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 I think we are going for the short term pain-long term gain approach. Problem is; they traded 2 of our youngest and most promising, and kept the old productive vets. So why re-sign Tyrod and take away the player who can help him most? People talk about this plan. Well, you should have decided this before you re-signed the qb. Sammy was toast here. They got something out of him rather than just letting him play out his contract. Not enough for a player with his talent. And they could have kept him if they wanted to or else he would lose millions next year.
BringBackOrton Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 So why re-sign Tyrod and take away the player who can help him most? People talk about this plan. Well, you should have decided this before you re-signed the qb. Not enough for a player with his talent. And they could have kept him if they wanted to or else he would lose millions next year. That's what I'm saying. I agree. Their justification for these moves make their other moves idiotic. There's no plan. Watkins was in their plans if he got healthy.....until he wasn't. They are screwing up with half-measures, not rebuilding, not going all-in, so we can return to 6-10 form forever.
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Sammy was toast here. They got something out of him rather than just letting him play out his contract. Thank You Sir. Move to the head of the class. Today we're teaching buyers remorse. Tomorrow.. redemption.
billsfan1960 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Watkins and Darby trades didn't affect the number of wins that the Bills' s fans expected this year. 4-6 ? The 2018 draft should be very productive in helping the Bills for the long run. IMO, I like both trades, should be fun watching this year, It wasn't like we were going to the Super Bowl with these two "Stars". GO BILLS
voodoo poonani Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Ok... I'm shocked. All eyes on the future I guess. I'm not sure I get why they kept TT then. Why sign Anquan to a 1yr deal? Just tank. All of this talk about not surrendering the season is just that, talk. The team is much less likely to make any sort of push this year. If your plan is to really start it next year, then get the first pick in each round. I wonder how Kyle Williams feels about coming back now. They're going nowhere this year.
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 I think we are going for the short term pain-long term gain approach. Problem is; they traded 2 of our youngest and most promising, and kept the old productive vets. Yeah THAT!!!!!!! that's what I got a problem with. This is HALF ASS TANK job.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Sammy was toast here. They got something out of him rather than just letting him play out his contract. Had we gotten a few firsts, aka what capital it to draft him maybe I would entertain that. But no, we sent over a solid, (not spectacular) player for a reject and a 2nd round pick. Gild the turd if you like, but it still reeks in the August heat
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Ok... I'm shocked. All eyes on the future I guess. I'm not sure I get why they kept TT then. Why sign Anquan to a 1yr deal? Just tank. All of this talk about not surrendering the season is just that, talk. The team is much less likely to make any sort of push this year. If your plan is to really start it next year, then get the first pick in each round. I wonder how Kyle Williams feels about coming back now. They're going nowhere this year. yeah. poor Kyle. He's not going to see the light of day now.
Best Player Available Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 yeah. poor Kyle. He's not going to see the light of day now. The locker room must be on edge right about now.
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 50 Cent Frosty's for everyone tonight!
3rdand12 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 That's what I'm saying. I agree. Their justification for these moves make their other moves idiotic. There's no plan. Watkins was in their plans if he got healthy.....until he wasn't. They are screwing up with half-measures, not rebuilding, not going all-in, so we can return to 6-10 form forever. Of course there is a plan. are you guys even serious. Just because You don't see it makes it so? recall the key phrase Trust the process. and perhaps some patience is in order with the new staff? And Ron Darby is going to a good home under Jim S, as is Watkins to be with Robert. I hope they both stay healthy and perform well for their new Teams. 50 Cent Frosty's for everyone tonight! one over here please !
OldTimer1960 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Bills 2018 1st first round pick should be top 10, 2nd 1st round pick be in the top 20. Bills 2018 1st 2nd round pick should be in the top 5 and 2nd second round pick be in the top 10. Bills 2018 1st 3rd round pick be in the top 10 and 2nd second round pick be in the top 20. CAN WE PLEASE GET A DAMN FRANCHISE QB! sadly, that won't be enough ammo to get a good QB prospect unless the Bills' own pick is top 5.
BringBackOrton Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Of course there is a plan. are you guys even serious. Just because You don't see it makes it so? recall the key phrase Trust the process. and perhaps some patience is in order with the new staff? And Ron Darby is going to a good home under Jim S, as is Watkins to be with Robert. I hope they both stay healthy and perform well for their new Teams. I am calling it like I see it now. If Beane and co change my mind with their actions, I'll happily concede I was wrong at the time. Trading these players don't make sense, to me.
finn Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 teams typically don't trade 1st rounders for non-QBs Except the Bills, who gave up two first rounders plus a fourth for an injury prone receiver in the deepest receiving class in NFL history to move up eight spots. The rest of the league laughed then and they're laughing now.
4merper4mer Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 yeah. poor Kyle. He's not going to see the light of day now. Should we be surprised if he just retires at this point? The team's infrastructure has given up on 2017 and it is likely his last year anyway.
Saxum Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 The Eagles are 169-112-1 since 2000. They have 11 winning seasons, two 8-8 seasons, and 10 playoff appearances. The Bills are ... well, you know. What? Worthy of you being a fan?
3rdand12 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 I am calling it like I see it now. If Beane and co change my mind with their actions, I'll happily concede I was wrong at the time. Trading these players don't make sense, to me. I sure understand why you would take that stance. Not sure it makes sense to me either. But I am not at all sure its a tank or a screw up. But i would be surprised if it was just careless workmanship or The Kids drinking Dad's beer and making phone calls from the Rolodex. Crazy times for sure though. when you thought you were giving your ticket for Tunnel of Love, you are now on the Canadian Mouse. ( that ride scared me a little when i was a kid )
Saxum Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 I think Watkins they looked at what he would be asking for next year, how he was responding to coaches and decided POSSIBLE third round compensation pick was not enough. Darby? Guessing his head was not in game and they did not see him matching 1st year production. All of the trades are subject to players passing physicals of course so we may have not seen the end yet.
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