Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 TANK!!! TANK!!!! TANK!!! THE TANK IS BACK!!! What a massive failure Doug Whaley's time with the Bills turned out to be. Yeah, they were able to trade the runner up for defensive rookie of the year (picked in the 2nd round) for Matthews and a 3rd. Whaley really missed on that one.
CommonCents Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 It will depend on what they could get in return. Would you trade Shady for a 1st rounder with Washington? A RB with his contract, if they can move him for a third I'd have him on the next plane out of Buffalo. You said they are thinking 2018 and beyond, Shady equals more wins and that hurts your draft pile. 3-13 is a top 5 pick, say Shady and company get you to 7-9. That means you lose 10 slots in each 6 rounds of the draft. Those slots are worth more than the trades today. So in itself trading Shady for a 3rd would yield more draft capital than Watkins and Darby did.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) And when/if they don't I hope everyone can all finally agree on something and say this is just another WTF? moment coming from OBD.A total WTF Yup. But again, sucks that they're coming to this decision in August after everyone committed cash to the season Yep Edited August 11, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
Kelly the Dog Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 I meant to start the season really, there's no reason to resign Tyrod. Sign and trade him or whatever. I'm just not convinced there is a plan. That's because there isn't a plan. Sure there is. The plan is to make people think there is a plan. Some of you are so gullible.
Wayne Cubed Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 That's a stretch. Is it? These decisions, especially Darby, could have been made earlier. You probably could have traded Watkins before the 5th year option need to be decoded and got more for him.
HappyDays Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Yeah, they were able to trade the runner up for defensive rookie of the year (picked in the 2nd round) for Matthews and a 3rd. Whaley really missed on that one. Greg Gabriel says Darby didn't fit McD's scheme, and CBS with no ball skills don't last too long in the NFL. The Darby move I understand more than the Watkins one.
billsfan60 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 And of course 17 years of no playoffs has nothing to do with their irrationality does it? it absolutely does but the longer this discussion goes on, the more rational the comments have become, even from the most initially shocked and outraged of posters.
DrDawkinstein Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Is it? These decisions, especially Darby, could have been made earlier. You probably could have traded Watkins before the 5th year option need to be decoded and got more for him. Probably not. Teams needed to see he was ok to actually play. That's why he got the ball so much last night. The Bills proved he was healthy, and he was gone the next day. Wasnt going to happen before that.
Alaska Darin Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Exactly the way I look at it. The Bills can now afford to trade into the 1st overall pick in next years draft and still have a normal draft. To me, nothing beats that CBF What team is going to trade the first overall pick if there's a franchise QB sitting there?
DrDawkinstein Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 What team is going to trade the first overall pick if there's a franchise QB sitting there? The Bills
billsfan60 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 That's where I'm at now. I'd trade Shady, Tyrod and maybe even Hughes. Let Kyle retire and Wood walk. If you've decided not to compete for the playoffs you shouldn't try to win 7 games. and since I can't get my way I'll take my ball and go home
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 What team is going to trade the first overall pick if there's a franchise QB sitting there? This is why you have to complete the job and send off Taylor, Shady, and Williams as well.
GG Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 What team is going to trade the first overall pick if there's a franchise QB sitting there? Titans? Is it? These decisions, especially Darby, could have been made earlier. You probably could have traded Watkins before the 5th year option need to be decoded and got more for him. If we try to piece the behind the scenes moves that were rumored for months, it surely looks like this is the best the Bills could get.
DrDawkinstein Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Beane: First laid out trades to McD and Pegula last night after the game. Didnt want the idea to be a distraction until it was close.
Wayne Cubed Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Probably not. Teams needed to see he was ok to actually play. That's why he got the ball so much last night. The Bills proved he was healthy, and he was gone the next day. Wasnt going to happen before that. According to Beane they weren't actively shopping him, so they weren't showcasing him at all. The Rams had been interested in Sammy going back to June, again according to Beane.
Rico Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Sean McBean fixing Whaley's mistakes. Exactly. Russ Brandon loved him some Sammy too, I wonder how he's doing today.
DrDawkinstein Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 According to Beane they weren't actively shopping him, so they weren't showcasing him at all. The Rams had been interested in Sammy going back to June, again according to Beane. Then either way this seems to be the best we could get for him.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 and since I can't get my way I'll take my ball and go homeOMG, is that really how you interpreted that?!?!? You cleary missed the point. Do you think that you are better off winning 7 games or 3? I think 3. If your plan is to rebuild commit to it and raise your chances of getting a top pick.
GoBills808 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Titans? I think they're going to be competitive this year.
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