Bills trade Sammy Watkins to Rams for CB Gaines, 2nd rd pick

[BillsFan130]

I actually like this trade. Watkins wasnt going to resign, and he is always injured. Got 2 first rounders, 2 2nd rounders and 2 3rd rounders now

[Crusher]

Massive failure in what the Bills got in exchange for a elite talent at WR. If he stays healthy...the Bills Got absolutely fleeced. Maybe he doesn't and it looks better, but his career thus far has mirrored Julio Jones'. I wouldn't have let this guy walk for anything less than a first rounder.

[dave mcbride]

they would have picked up his 5th year if they wanted to keep him

Are you saying they wouldn't have wanted to keep him if he stayed healthy this year and had 85 catches for 1450 yards and 13 TDs? Because he's certainly capable of that.

[thebandit27]

Ha! I should have know better before using stats. Opinion and emotions are way better ways to support points during dialogue.

 

Yes, you should've known to actually look at all the stats, not just cherry picking.

 

Go back and read my response, then return and tell me why the vast majority of numbers fly in the face of your argument.

[Wayne Cubed]

they would have picked up his 5th year if they wanted to keep him

Not when it's guaranteed for injury. That's why you prove he can stay healthy this year and if he does, franchise or sign him.

[r00tabaga]

We were gonna lose Sammy after this year anyway so glad to get something for him. The 2nd trade is to rebalance tne numbers. We have same number of CBs, same number of WRs, and a few more picks.

At first I was pissed but now I'm where you are at. Boldin, Zay, JMath & Holmes isn't horrible by asn't stretch. Just need MORE speed IMO.

We still got Shady & Clay too.

 

No Tank, sorry Mike Rodent.

[Pirate Angel]

I figured we might see an Eric wood trade

[Golden*Wheels]

La Confora was just on WFAN, I tried to type his quotes as close to being quotes as I could.

 

Look Mcdermott is the new sherriff in town, he is sick of some of the factions and cliques and infighting going on there.

 

You look at some of Doug Whaley guys who could do no wrong. Doug Whaley reached and empowered the player (Sammy) because of that. He drafted a hurt player who stayed hurt who will want a ton of money next year, and had been a divisive player from a personnel standpoint.

 

The Bills are reshaping themselves and getting some controversial figures out of the mix.

[K D]

i go outside to yard work and all hell breaks loose. i cant leave you guys alone for a few hrs without the team imploding? good god!

 

 

before everyone jumps off a bridge, Darby doesn't fit the scheme and Watkins wasn't coming back anyhow. we are a 6-7 win team. might as well build for the future. Beane and McDermott showing they are in it for the long haul not just a few mediocre years and done like all others before them

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

 

I agree. Smart to trade him now.

 

I am more confused by the Darby trade though. Matthews is going to walk too. I would have rather kept Darby.

 

Could be a scheme fit - also might want to bring someone in so you can dump holmes and collect the comp pick.

[BmarvB]

What in the interplanetary F*** ???? Do I smell a tank warming up?

[Kelly the Dog]

After a little reflection it's understandable what Beane and Opie are doing, I just don't think it's the right move. They are going way overboard on character and culture to the detriment of talent. You need both. Sammy clearly rubbed them the wrong way and they made a choice that they weren't going to re-sign him. Newsflash, a WR has a big ego and says some questionable things. This was all about making a statement and bringing their own guys in and building a long term team. It may or may not work.

 

Right now, it's a bad move IMO. Wasting what is likely Kyle's last year. Maybe not being able to truly evaluate TT in the most important season. Getting rid of star players. Banking on your own ability to do something you have yet to prove you can do under anyone's standard.

 

They are looking for a certain kind of player. I can't really think of a team where that has really worked, meaning we want 53 high character guys and we will jettison better players with less character.

[Jamie Muellers Ghost]

Its a process.

 

He will have close to four hours of coaching time from their PR coach.

 

That should be interesting to hear his comments. I'm sure he will give us a lot of cliche and generic answers though

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Ha! I should have know better before using stats. Opinion and emotions are way better ways to support points during dialogue.

 

I was kidding bruhhhh

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

 

He's in a walk year though so... if he sucks just don't resign him.

So we got a second for Watkins and that's good???

[sodbuster]

Hahaha, Sammy is front and center on the cover of the team yearbook they handed out last night. Awesome.

 

Taking both of today's moves as a whole, i think we came out in better shape than going in, but I seem to have a higher opinion of Matthews than most. That's probably tilting my assessment.

[gr8billsfan]

Now the Bills will hit the 20 year mark without Playoffs and possibly the 25mark. Beane, pack your bags cuz i could have made better trades than you, you baphoon.

[Jamie Muellers Ghost]

Fairburn trade grades

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/08/thoughts_grades_buffalo_bills_blockbuster_trades_sammy_watkins_ronald_darby.html

[transplantbillsfan]

Head-scratching.

 

On the one hand, now it really looks like tanking might be in the cards or back of the minds for OBD.

 

On the other hand, I just can't believe Boldin would have come to Buffalo being sold on a team in rebuild mode.

 

 

There has to be more to this. Watkins is obviously constantly at risk for an injury. Even last night he came up and I thought he hobbled at one point. Maybe this was just a good move for both parties but it doesn't mean the Bills are trying to tank?

 

Just weird.

[billsfan60]

Kinda has the same feel of something Marv and Polian would have done