Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 I like this hire, because his system allows his defensive tackles to attack the line of scrimmage unlike Rex, who seemed to have them drop back into coverage too many times, also one more thing I like about Frazier, he allows his lineman to lineup anywhere on the defensive line to pressure the Quarterback. If Frazier, can get the Bills Defense back into that top 5 again this team will go to the playoffs and be a terror. If only Rex, would not have been so stubborn and cause Jim Schwartz to leave this team would be up their with the top teams in the NFL. Rex's, defense cost us big time.
Webster Guy Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 Dropping defensive lineman is done by every single team in the NFL, it's as old as Dick LeBeau himself. But I like Fraziers style for our squad. One of the tenants of the Leslie Frazier defense is preventing first downs. The "punts as turnovers" principle is strong with Frazier, who always preaches limiting damage and keeping plays in front of his defense, rather than going with an aggressive approach. You won't see as many turnovers or sacks, but you also won't give up three games of 200+ yard rushers like last year. By Frazier's second year in charge of the defense (2008), the Vikings became top-5 in the NFL in not allowing first downs. They would remain a top-10 first-down preventing defense until 2011, Frazier's first full year as head coach of the Vikings. To me he's a classic cover 2 guy, which is why I'm amazed we didn't stay put and draft Malik Hooker, but that's another story.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Dropping defensive lineman is done by every single team in the NFL, it's as old as Dick LeBeau himself. But I like Fraziers style for our squad. One of the tenants of the Leslie Frazier defense is preventing first downs. The "punts as turnovers" principle is strong with Frazier, who always preaches limiting damage and keeping plays in front of his defense, rather than going with an aggressive approach. You won't see as many turnovers or sacks, but you also won't give up three games of 200+ yard rushers like last year. By Frazier's second year in charge of the defense (2008), the Vikings became top-5 in the NFL in not allowing first downs. They would remain a top-10 first-down preventing defense until 2011, Frazier's first full year as head coach of the Vikings. To me he's a classic cover 2 guy, which is why I'm amazed we didn't stay put and draft Malik Hooker, but that's another story. The Bills are running McDermott's defense (not Frazier's) in the style of the late Jim Johnson. Edited August 10, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
JM57 Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 The Bills are running McDermott's defense not Frazier's in the style of the late Jim Johnson. Frazier also began his career coaching under Johnson, so it's not like the system is unknown to him.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 Frazier also began his career coaching under Johnson, so it's not like the system is unknown to him. Exactly.
Ennjay Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 Ironic that Frazier had his best career success as a player with the Bears under DC . . . Buddy Ryan.
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 The Bills are running McDermott's defense (not Frazier's) in the style of the late Jim Johnson. My thoughts as well. Frazier's scheme does mesh well with McDermott's. We'll see a ton of cover 3, and probably won't get beat deep very often. Teams will attack the flats, seams, and utilize smash concepts. And there will be dropping defensive linemen at times. McDermott likes to disguise zone blitzes, and a lineman will cover the area vacated by a blitzing LB.
SJDK Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Sounds like a 'bend don't break' type of deal. Edited August 11, 2017 by SJDK
BillsFan4 Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Dropping defensive lineman is done by every single team in the NFL, it's as old as Dick LeBeau himself. But I like Fraziers style for our squad. One of the tenants of the Leslie Frazier defense is preventing first downs. The "punts as turnovers" principle is strong with Frazier, who always preaches limiting damage and keeping plays in front of his defense, rather than going with an aggressive approach. You won't see as many turnovers or sacks, but you also won't give up three games of 200+ yard rushers like last year. By Frazier's second year in charge of the defense (2008), the Vikings became top-5 in the NFL in not allowing first downs. They would remain a top-10 first-down preventing defense until 2011, Frazier's first full year as head coach of the Vikings. To me he's a classic cover 2 guy, which is why I'm amazed we didn't stay put and draft Malik Hooker, but that's another story. It may not happen immediately, but I actually expect this defense to create many more turnovers and sacks than under Rex. They didn't create many turnovers under Rex (I think only 18 last year?), and that is a staple of McDermott's defense. He loves creating turnovers. Carolina was near the top of the NFL in turnovers in many of McDermott's years there. Even last year with a bunch of rookies in the secondary they were tied for 4th. 2015 they were 1st. 2013 they were 5th. They were near the top of the NFL in sacks many years too, IIRC.
HappyDays Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Dropping defensive lineman is done by every single team in the NFL, it's as old as Dick LeBeau himself. But I like Fraziers style for our squad. One of the tenants of the Leslie Frazier defense is preventing first downs. The "punts as turnovers" principle is strong with Frazier, who always preaches limiting damage and keeping plays in front of his defense, rather than going with an aggressive approach. You won't see as many turnovers or sacks, but you also won't give up three games of 200+ yard rushers like last year. By Frazier's second year in charge of the defense (2008), the Vikings became top-5 in the NFL in not allowing first downs. They would remain a top-10 first-down preventing defense until 2011, Frazier's first full year as head coach of the Vikings. To me he's a classic cover 2 guy, which is why I'm amazed we didn't stay put and draft Malik Hooker, but that's another story. Good post and good info, thanks.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Dropping defensive lineman is done by every single team in the NFL, it's as old as Dick LeBeau himself. But I like Fraziers style for our squad. One of the tenants of the Leslie Frazier defense is preventing first downs. The "punts as turnovers" principle is strong with Frazier, who always preaches limiting damage and keeping plays in front of his defense, rather than going with an aggressive approach. You won't see as many turnovers or sacks, but you also won't give up three games of 200+ yard rushers like last year. By Frazier's second year in charge of the defense (2008), the Vikings became top-5 in the NFL in not allowing first downs. They would remain a top-10 first-down preventing defense until 2011, Frazier's first full year as head coach of the Vikings. To me he's a classic cover 2 guy, which is why I'm amazed we didn't stay put and draft Malik Hooker, but that's another story. First downs = extra plays for an offense. Extra plays = extra yards. Extra yards = points.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Bend but don't break = 3 pts no TDs assuming the "but don't" part of the equation comes into play. we've seen plenty of bend THEN break defense lately.
Jasovon Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Our defense seemed to just be playing sensible football, good tackling lots of guys to the ball.
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Our defense seemed to just be playing sensible football, good tackling lots of guys to the ball. Tackling was pretty solid with the first unit. 2nd and 3rd units were gradually worse, but players were swarming to the ball very well all game.
Saxum Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 Ironic that Frazier had his best career success as a player with the Bears under DC . . . Buddy Ryan. Yes and he probably will incorporate principles of that defense into his.
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 @danfetes Jerry Hughes just got into it with Leslie Frazier. Hughes walked away as Frazier yelled "ITS ALL ABOUT YOU JERRY! ALWAYS ABOUT YOU!" #Bills
LeGOATski Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 @danfetes Jerry Hughes just got into it with Leslie Frazier. Hughes walked away as Frazier yelled "ITS ALL ABOUT YOU JERRY! ALWAYS ABOUT YOU!" #Bills Oh, ****.
Captain Murica Posted August 14, 2017 Posted August 14, 2017 @danfetes Jerry Hughes just got into it with Leslie Frazier. Hughes walked away as Frazier yelled "ITS ALL ABOUT YOU JERRY! ALWAYS ABOUT YOU!" #Bills Oh wow... lol
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