outsidethebox Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 19 hours ago, Tiberius said: Wow, after all the lies Trump tells you are going to focus on that? I kept my doctor as did the vast majority of Americans. Is it because Trump is white he can lie all he wants and you guys just want more? This thread is about Obama, talk your Trump bull **** in a Trump thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, westside said: This thread is about Obama, talk your Trump bull **** in a Trump thread. Obama was a good president. Ahh..the good old days! Any objective observer can see Obama was just a good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Obama was a good president. Ahh..the good old days! Any objective observer can see Obama was just a good man. Lol, now I know you're a bot. We all know obama was a charlatan, surrounded himself with thugs like holder, that racist reverend and the fbi he had in his back pocket. I can't wait to see the cuffs slapped around his wrists. Oh Happy Day!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorbait Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, westside said: I can't wait to see the cuffs slapped around his wrists. Oh Happy Day!!!! You’re going to be waiting a while. McCabe, Strozk and a few others are screwed but HRC and Obama will never see jail time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, gatorbait said: You’re going to be waiting a while. McCabe, Strozk and a few others are screwed but HRC and Obama will never see jail time. Logic and history would say that you're correct. However I am hopeful that we are living in changing times. With what will be brought to light, if you prosecute McCabe and Strozk, et at. the level of malfeasance grows the higher up the food chain you go. Unless the government simply comes out and says "We have decided not to prosecute the truly powerful because they are truly powerful, but we have decided to prosecute their underlings and peons." At which point it's time to go get your firearms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Logic and history would say that you're correct. However I am hopeful that we are living in changing times. With what will be brought to light, if you prosecute McCabe and Strozk, et at. the level of malfeasance grows the higher up the food chain you go. Unless the government simply comes out and says "We have decided not to prosecute the truly powerful because they are truly powerful, but we have decided to prosecute their underlings and peons." At which point it's time to go get your firearms. Exactly. That's the sticky situation with Comey now. If they decide to prosecute Comey (and I think the will), then they are going to have to go after HRC... And remember, 44 was emailing her on his own second account... so if you go after HRC you are going to end up having to go after 44. Or, you're going to have another public announcement like Comey made in July of '16, where the FBI and DOJ admit that the political class is too big to jail. That will lead to violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Exactly. That's the sticky situation with Comey now. If they decide to prosecute Comey (and I think the will), then they are going to have to go after HRC... And remember, 44 was emailing her on his own second account... so if you go after HRC you are going to end up having to go after 44. Or, you're going to have another public announcement like Comey made in July of '16, where the FBI and DOJ admit that the political class is too big to jail. That will lead to violence. Especially given what it will be demonstrated that they are guilty of. We aren't talking about jaywalking. We're talking about human trafficking, propping up rogue states and helping them become nuclear for self enrichment, and a coup attempt in order to cover it all up. People need to remember, Strozyk, McCabe, Comey, etc... their criminality is all in the executing a coverup. The real bombshells are located in the why of the whole thing: Why the coverup was executed. What the people they work for were trying to keep hidden and protect. That's the real MOAB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Especially given what it will be demonstrated that they are guilty of. We aren't talking about jaywalking. We're talking about human trafficking, propping up rogue states and helping them become nuclear for self enrichment, and a coup attempt in order to cover it all up. People need to remember, Strozyk, McCabe, Comey, etc... their criminality is all in the executing a coverup. The real bombshells are located in the why of the whole thing: Why the coverup was executed. What the people they work for were trying to keep hidden and protect. That's the real MOAB. Yup. And as recently as three weeks ago, the idea that McCabe - the #2 - would be indicted or prosecuted was as laughable to conventional wisdom as saying Comey or HRC or any of the big fish would be indicted or prosecuted... Times have changed. It's a new world with new rules. Once the DOJ and FBI are cleaned up (which is ongoing), the real arrests will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorbait Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Logic and history would say that you're correct. However I am hopeful that we are living in changing times. With what will be brought to light, if you prosecute McCabe and Strozk, et at. the level of malfeasance grows the higher up the food chain you go. Unless the government simply comes out and says "We have decided not to prosecute the truly powerful because they are truly powerful, but we have decided to prosecute their underlings and peons." At which point it's time to go get your firearms. Unfortunately the lower tier people always take the fall. I just don’t see concrete evidence connecting HRC or Obama to an actual crime. As corrupt as they probably were they are going to wipe their hands clean of the mess they left while a few others do a year or two in jail. Of course, that’s if anyone gets prosecuted at all. I don’t care how many sealed indictments are out there, until they actually indict someone it’s very possible that no one on the left gets in trouble at all. Some people in the swamp may think being fired, publicly disgraced or forced to resign is punishment enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, gatorbait said: Unfortunately the lower tier people always take the fall. I just don’t see concrete evidence connecting HRC or Obama to an actual crime. As corrupt as they probably were they are going to wipe their hands clean of the mess they left while a few others do a year or two in jail. Of course, that’s if anyone gets prosecuted at all. I don’t care how many sealed indictments are out there, until they actually indict someone it’s very possible that no one on the left gets in trouble at all. Some people in the swamp may think being fired, publicly disgraced or forced to resign is punishment enough. The FBI and DOJ have to be reformed first. You're never going to see prosecutions if the top levels of the DOJ are protecting the political class - and this is exactly what we've seen happen over the past few months: *There are one, if not two, grand juries right now working with the IG on just FBI/DOJ abuse * McCabe has already been referred by the non-partisan IG for indictment. * Comey, Strzok, Page, Baker, Ohr, and Kortan have all been either fired, demoted, reassigned, or otherwise put into submission by Horowitz and Sessions. * Priestap, Strzok, and Page have been cooperating witnesses for over a year now. Sessions has Huber working in Utah for a reason - and it's not to do nothing. It's to keep him out of the political fray while he works with Horowitz. Huber was working for six months before anyone knew he was there... six months. The IG report has been delayed multiple times now - not because it's devoid of meat, but because Horowitz keeps adding referrals to the list and they are unable to turn over portions of the report which are being used in active investigations and/or indictments. Add to this the over 40 congresscritters who have resigned or announced they're not running again... and there's a distinct pattern going on that is easy to miss if you only focus on the noise generated by the MSM. Edited May 2, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The FBI and DOJ have to be reformed first. You're never going to see prosecutions of the top levels of the DOJ are protecting the political class - and this is exactly what we've seen happen over the past few months: *There are one, if not two, grand juries right now working with the IG on just FBI/DOJ abuse * McCabe has already been referred by the non-partisan IG for indictment. * Comey, Strzok, Page, Baker, Ohr, and Kortan have all been either fired, demoted, reassigned, or otherwise put into submission by Horowitz and Sessions. * Priestap, Strzok, and Page have been cooperating witnesses for over a year now. Sessions has Huber working in Utah for a reason - and it's not to do nothing. It's to keep him out of the political fray while he works with Horowitz. Huber was working for six months before anyone knew he was there... six months. The IG report has been delayed multiple times now - not because it's devoid of meat, but because Horowitz keeps adding referrals to the list and they are unable to turn over portions of the report which are being used in active investigations and/or indictments. Add to this the over 40 congresscritters who have resigned or announced they're not running again... and there's a distinct pattern going on that is easy to miss if you only focus on the noise generated by the MSM. Sort of like how Goring "reformed" the Prussian police after Hitler appointed him police chief? Not happening. The best thing about the Trump presidency is how the career people in government have resisted becoming Trump pawns. And since most of Trump's klingons are nothing but flunkies, they will never get appointed to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The FBI and DOJ have to be reformed first. You're never going to see prosecutions if the top levels of the DOJ are protecting the political class - and this is exactly what we've seen happen over the past few months: *There are one, if not two, grand juries right now working with the IG on just FBI/DOJ abuse * McCabe has already been referred by the non-partisan IG for indictment. * Comey, Strzok, Page, Baker, Ohr, and Kortan have all been either fired, demoted, reassigned, or otherwise put into submission by Horowitz and Sessions. * Priestap, Strzok, and Page have been cooperating witnesses for over a year now. Sessions has Huber working in Utah for a reason - and it's not to do nothing. It's to keep him out of the political fray while he works with Horowitz. Huber was working for six months before anyone knew he was there... six months. The IG report has been delayed multiple times now - not because it's devoid of meat, but because Horowitz keeps adding referrals to the list and they are unable to turn over portions of the report which are being used in active investigations and/or indictments. Add to this the over 40 congresscritters who have resigned or announced they're not running again... and there's a distinct pattern going on that is easy to miss if you only focus on the noise generated by the MSM. So when does the final kitten cowpoodle drop with the Horowitz IG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: So when does the final kitten cowpoodle drop with the Horowitz IG? Tough to know for sure. It's due this week, but Horowitz already pushed back his testimony (he was supposed to testify on the 8th). That shows me they're still finding stuff/making referrals. It will be held until the indictments are ready, the grand juries are done, and the field is properly prepared. Which should be this month. Plus Flynn's sentencing got delayed another 60 days. That has to do more with the IG report than Mueller's probe. Anyone who is pushing the notion that Flynn's sentencing was delayed because Mueller is still squeezing him are selling lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: So when does the final kitten cowpoodle drop with the Horowitz IG? Soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10 hours ago, Koko78 said: No, but that won't stop historians from white-washing his legacy to proclaim him a great president. Can't let facts get in the way of the narrative. They tried that with Carter too though. Took a while, but the truth finally caught up to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 No big deal, just John Kerry violating the Logan Act Kerry quietly seeking to salvage Iran deal he helped craft https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/04/kerry-quietly-seeking-salvage-iran-deal-helped-craft/2fTkGON7xvaNbO0YbHECUL/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: No big deal, just John Kerry violating the Logan Act Kerry quietly seeking to salvage Iran deal he helped craft https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/04/kerry-quietly-seeking-salvage-iran-deal-helped-craft/2fTkGON7xvaNbO0YbHECUL/story.html But that's different...because...shut up! [/MSNBC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, B-Man said: No big deal, just John Kerry violating the Logan Act Kerry quietly seeking to salvage Iran deal he helped craft https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/04/kerry-quietly-seeking-salvage-iran-deal-helped-craft/2fTkGON7xvaNbO0YbHECUL/story.html 17 minutes ago, DC Tom said: But that's different...because...shut up! [/MSNBC] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) You guys still think Obama told more lies? Ask Rudy if Donny paid the $130 million that Dearest Don said he didn’t. Even Fox News is wondering which news is fake!!!!! Edited May 6, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 52 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You guys still think Obama told more lies? Ask Rudy if Donny paid the $130 million that Dearest Don said he didn’t. Even Fox News is wondering which news is fake!!!!! You go for the big lies, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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