Mike in Horseheads Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 Yeah, I 'Read above' - that's how I came to comment on your post. TT is faster than Sammy, how about have him return kicks? Say... now theres a idea.
BringBackFergy Posted August 7, 2017 Author Posted August 7, 2017 Yeah, I 'Read above' - that's how I came to comment on your post. TT is faster than Sammy, how about have him return kicks? Not sure TT is accustomed to catching the football....which is part of returning kicks.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 Watch Clemson Tape. Incorporate into your offense. There Easy And no that doesnt include putting him on ST Pretty much... watch miami tape with landry too. Move him around - throw him quick passes if they line up off him. His speed and strength make it hard to bump him at the line without basically shading a safety to play over the top. If they're bumping, then its likely that there will be space. Unfortunately it's probably in the middle of the field
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) I've always found this widely accepted idea of "getting players into space" to be a myth. Aside from a rocket ship, the only way to get a player into space is by using them on punt/kickoff returns. That is a risk which most coaches aren't willing to take with their star players. Elite players have the ability to get themselves into space. A receiver who is a good route runner with elite speed should be able to win battles with defenders. Winning such battles allows the receiver to get into space. I'm not convinced that you can always game plan "space" in the pros. Players like Rice and Moss created their own space. Edited August 7, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5
DC Tom Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 Elon Musk Rocket to Mars? And to think we could have sent OBJ to Mars and had an extra first round pick...
BringBackFergy Posted August 7, 2017 Author Posted August 7, 2017 I don't know. Couldn't get Spiller there. CJ was winded. He didn't have the breath to make it. Sammy could very easily be our premier returner if the coaches would give him a shot.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 And to think we could have sent OBJ to Mars and had an extra first round pick... Dammit!
TheElectricCompany Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Jailbreak screens, quick slants, endarounds, etc. etc. Those each have a place, but I'd prefer we just get the ball to Sammy on "standard" routes. Guys like Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin and Cordarelle Patterson that need the ball in a certain way to succeed aren't worth the trouble. Edited August 7, 2017 by TheElectricCompany
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 Jailbreak screens, quick slants, endarounds, etc. etc. Those each have a place, but I'd prefer we just get the ball to Sammy on "standard" routes. Guys like Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin and Cordarelle Patterson that need the ball in a certain way to succeed aren't worth the trouble. I agree. Elite players make their own space. You gave great examples of players who needed "space" to be part of the game plan. They were all gadget players who didn't have great all around games. Many of these type of play calls aren't very successful in the pros either. College offenses can dominate calling only "space" plays. Those types of plays usually get shutdown in the pros. Only the Pats* succeed with them consistently. Apparently the NFL has decided that holding doesn't apply when they run a screen.
Royale with Cheese Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 You put your best players on the field as much as possible. Lorenzo Alexander was probably our best defensive player last year and he loves special teams and played it in addition to his linebacker duties. Why not put our best offensive playmaker out there to receive punts or kicks? If you worry about injuries all the time we'll never see a player's best work. Is it that Sammy refuses to play Special Teams? If so, that's a risk/reward that applies to our team (i.e. whether he's willing to play any position to help the team at all costs). He's a sturdy fellow...he can handle being tackled when he runs up the middle on a kick return. Lorenzo Alexander came here to play Special Teams and got his opportunity after an injury. Sammy is and has been our #1 WR. Why isn't Julio Jones or AJ Green returning kicks?
26CornerBlitz Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 I've heard of jet sweeps in football. So now we're advancing the game to include jet packs.....Nice!
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 You put your best players on the field as much as possible. Lorenzo Alexander was probably our best defensive player last year and he loves special teams and played it in addition to his linebacker duties. Why not put our best offensive playmaker out there to receive punts or kicks? If you worry about injuries all the time we'll never see a player's best work. Is it that Sammy refuses to play Special Teams? If so, that's a risk/reward that applies to our team (i.e. whether he's willing to play any position to help the team at all costs). He's a sturdy fellow...he can handle being tackled when he runs up the middle on a kick return. Isn't the best ability availability? that's my point about why risk further injury. Also your acting like Sammy will be an upgrade in our return game. In college Sammy averaged 22.9 yards per kick off return with 1 TD over three seasons. He averaged 3.8 yards on his 6 punt returns over three years. These are college stats that are average.
BringBackFergy Posted August 7, 2017 Author Posted August 7, 2017 Lorenzo Alexander came here to play Special Teams and got his opportunity after an injury. Sammy is and has been our #1 WR. Why isn't Julio Jones or AJ Green returning kicks? Jones and Green have talented QB's throwing them the ball. By returning kicks and/or punts, we are taking our QB's shortcomings out of the equation. Not to mention, we now have Boldin...there's even more reason to have Sammy work on another part of his game after his ankle heals.
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